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WakaWaka
#91 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2018 7:27:03 AM
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tom_boy wrote:
Another potentially stupid question,

Which law governs operation of boda boda? For those injured on bodaboda, who pays them?


Riding a motor cycle without insurance is an offence.

http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/133944/
tom_boy
#92 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2018 7:41:53 AM
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Joined: 2/20/2007
Posts: 767
WakaWaka wrote:
[quote=tom_boy]Another potentially stupid question,

Which law governs operation of boda boda? For those injured on bodaboda, who pays them?


Riding a motor cycle without insurance is an offence.

http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/133944/[/quote]

Now you are deflecting issues. This thread is pertinently about PSV insurance and fare paying passengers. Kwani you did not learn about context in the school you attended, Shame on you

In kenyan pallance, "bodaboda" is a motorcycle
used for conducting business of ferrying passengers mainly, and sometimes goods. Now you know. Sasa kindly direct me to relevant law on PSV for bodaboda.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
WakaWaka
#93 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2018 8:51:52 AM
Rank: New-farer

Joined: 7/25/2010
Posts: 42
Location: Kenya
tom_boy wrote:
WakaWaka wrote:
[quote=tom_boy]Another potentially stupid question,

Which law governs operation of boda boda? For those injured on bodaboda, who pays them?


Riding a motor cycle without insurance is an offence.

http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/133944/[/quote]

Now you are deflecting issues. This thread is pertinently about PSV insurance and fare paying passengers. Kwani you did not learn about context in the school you attended, Shame on you

In kenyan pallance, "bodaboda" is a motorcycle
used for conducting business of ferrying passengers mainly, and sometimes goods. Now you know. Sasa kindly direct me to relevant law on PSV for bodaboda.



NATIONAL TRANSPORT AND SAFETY AUTHORITY (OPERATION OF MOTORCYCLES) REGULATIONS, 2015
[L.N. 19/2015.]


http://kenyalaw.org/lex/...eg=No.%2033%20of%202012


Bodaboda should have PSV insurance - see Regulation 5(e).
tom_boy
#94 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2018 9:17:39 AM
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Joined: 2/20/2007
Posts: 767
WakaWaka wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
WakaWaka wrote:
[quote=tom_boy]Another potentially stupid question,

Which law governs operation of boda boda? For those injured on bodaboda, who pays them?


Riding a motor cycle without insurance is an offence.

http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/133944/[/quote]

Now you are deflecting issues. This thread is pertinently about PSV insurance and fare paying passengers. Kwani you did not learn about context in the school you attended, Shame on you

In kenyan pallance, "bodaboda" is a motorcycle
used for conducting business of ferrying passengers mainly, and sometimes goods. Now you know. Sasa kindly direct me to relevant law on PSV for bodaboda.



NATIONAL TRANSPORT AND SAFETY AUTHORITY (OPERATION OF MOTORCYCLES) REGULATIONS, 2015
[L.N. 19/2015.]


http://kenyalaw.org/lex/...eg=No.%2033%20of%202012


Bodaboda should have PSV insurance - see Regulation 5(e).


Ok. Point noted. Bodaboda should have PSV insurance.

However what constitutes a PSV is not well defined in the Act. I think that is a loop hole for NipeLift
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
WakaWaka
#95 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2018 1:19:39 PM
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Joined: 7/25/2010
Posts: 42
Location: Kenya
tom_boy wrote:
WakaWaka wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
WakaWaka wrote:
[quote=tom_boy]Another potentially stupid question,

Which law governs operation of boda boda? For those injured on bodaboda, who pays them?


Riding a motor cycle without insurance is an offence.

http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/133944/[/quote]

Now you are deflecting issues. This thread is pertinently about PSV insurance and fare paying passengers. Kwani you did not learn about context in the school you attended, Shame on you

In kenyan pallance, "bodaboda" is a motorcycle
used for conducting business of ferrying passengers mainly, and sometimes goods. Now you know. Sasa kindly direct me to relevant law on PSV for bodaboda.



NATIONAL TRANSPORT AND SAFETY AUTHORITY (OPERATION OF MOTORCYCLES) REGULATIONS, 2015
[L.N. 19/2015.]


http://kenyalaw.org/lex/...eg=No.%2033%20of%202012


Bodaboda should have PSV insurance - see Regulation 5(e).


Ok. Point noted. Bodaboda should have PSV insurance.

However what constitutes a PSV is not well defined in the Act. I think that is a loop hole for NipeLift


What is the loophole? It's very clear that if you use your car for hire or reward, you should comply with PSV requirements.
tom_boy
#96 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2018 1:43:28 PM
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Joined: 2/20/2007
Posts: 767
WakaWaka wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
WakaWaka wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
WakaWaka wrote:
[quote=tom_boy]Another potentially stupid question,

Which law governs operation of boda boda? For those injured on bodaboda, who pays them?


Riding a motor cycle without insurance is an offence.

http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/133944/[/quote]

Now you are deflecting issues. This thread is pertinently about PSV insurance and fare paying passengers. Kwani you did not learn about context in the school you attended, Shame on you

In kenyan pallance, "bodaboda" is a motorcycle
used for conducting business of ferrying passengers mainly, and sometimes goods. Now you know. Sasa kindly direct me to relevant law on PSV for bodaboda.



NATIONAL TRANSPORT AND SAFETY AUTHORITY (OPERATION OF MOTORCYCLES) REGULATIONS, 2015
[L.N. 19/2015.]


http://kenyalaw.org/lex/...eg=No.%2033%20of%202012


Bodaboda should have PSV insurance - see Regulation 5(e).


Ok. Point noted. Bodaboda should have PSV insurance.

However what constitutes a PSV is not well defined in the Act. I think that is a loop hole for NipeLift


What is the loophole? It's very clear that if you use your car for hire or reward, you should comply with PSV requirements.


Maybe I have missed the clause that says this explicitly. In fact exchange of money is not even mentioned, at least not in above quoted act.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
WakaWaka
#97 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2018 6:03:44 PM
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Joined: 7/25/2010
Posts: 42
Location: Kenya
tom_boy wrote:
WakaWaka wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
WakaWaka wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
WakaWaka wrote:
[quote=tom_boy]Another potentially stupid question,

Which law governs operation of boda boda? For those injured on bodaboda, who pays them?


Riding a motor cycle without insurance is an offence.

http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/133944/[/quote]

Now you are deflecting issues. This thread is pertinently about PSV insurance and fare paying passengers. Kwani you did not learn about context in the school you attended, Shame on you

In kenyan pallance, "bodaboda" is a motorcycle
used for conducting business of ferrying passengers mainly, and sometimes goods. Now you know. Sasa kindly direct me to relevant law on PSV for bodaboda.



NATIONAL TRANSPORT AND SAFETY AUTHORITY (OPERATION OF MOTORCYCLES) REGULATIONS, 2015
[L.N. 19/2015.]


http://kenyalaw.org/lex/...eg=No.%2033%20of%202012


Bodaboda should have PSV insurance - see Regulation 5(e).


Ok. Point noted. Bodaboda should have PSV insurance.

However what constitutes a PSV is not well defined in the Act. I think that is a loop hole for NipeLift


What is the loophole? It's very clear that if you use your car for hire or reward, you should comply with PSV requirements.


Maybe I have missed the clause that says this explicitly. In fact exchange of money is not even mentioned, at least not in above quoted act.



@Mawinder has quoted the Act extensively. But Just a reminder. Section 2 of traffic Act reads:

“public service vehicle” means any motor vehicle which—

(a) is licensed under Part XI to carry passengers for hire or reward; or
(b) plies for hire or reward or is let out for hire or reward; or
(c) is carrying passengers for hire or reward;

If a word is not defined in an Act, you go for the ordinary english meaning.


Reward in ordinary English means "a thing given in recognition of service, effort, or achievement". Synonyms for reward include "price", "payment", "profit", "advantage", "tip", "consideration".



https://www.google.com/s...id-browser&q=reward



tom_boy
#98 Posted : Friday, December 21, 2018 7:56:42 PM
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Joined: 2/20/2007
Posts: 767
WakaWaka wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
WakaWaka wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
WakaWaka wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
WakaWaka wrote:
[quote=tom_boy]Another potentially stupid question,

Which law governs operation of boda boda? For those injured on bodaboda, who pays them?


Riding a motor cycle without insurance is an offence.

http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/133944/[/quote]

Now you are deflecting issues. This thread is pertinently about PSV insurance and fare paying passengers. Kwani you did not learn about context in the school you attended, Shame on you

In kenyan pallance, "bodaboda" is a motorcycle
used for conducting business of ferrying passengers mainly, and sometimes goods. Now you know. Sasa kindly direct me to relevant law on PSV for bodaboda.



NATIONAL TRANSPORT AND SAFETY AUTHORITY (OPERATION OF MOTORCYCLES) REGULATIONS, 2015
[L.N. 19/2015.]


http://kenyalaw.org/lex/...eg=No.%2033%20of%202012


Bodaboda should have PSV insurance - see Regulation 5(e).


Ok. Point noted. Bodaboda should have PSV insurance.

However what constitutes a PSV is not well defined in the Act. I think that is a loop hole for NipeLift


What is the loophole? It's very clear that if you use your car for hire or reward, you should comply with PSV requirements.


Maybe I have missed the clause that says this explicitly. In fact exchange of money is not even mentioned, at least not in above quoted act.



@Mawinder has quoted the Act extensively. But Just a reminder. Section 2 of traffic Act reads:

“public service vehicle” means any motor vehicle which—

(a) is licensed under Part XI to carry passengers for hire or reward; or
(b) plies for hire or reward or is let out for hire or reward; or
(c) is carrying passengers for hire or reward;

If a word is not defined in an Act, you go for the ordinary english meaning.


Reward in ordinary English means "a thing given in recognition of service, effort, or achievement". Synonyms for reward include "price", "payment", "profit", "advantage", "tip", "consideration".



https://www.google.com/s...id-browser&q=reward





Ok. Noted.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
mawinder
#99 Posted : Saturday, December 22, 2018 7:22:57 PM
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Joined: 4/30/2008
Posts: 6,029
WakaWaka wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
WakaWaka wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
WakaWaka wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
WakaWaka wrote:
[quote=tom_boy]Another potentially stupid question,

Which law governs operation of boda boda? For those injured on bodaboda, who pays them?


Riding a motor cycle without insurance is an offence.

http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/133944/[/quote]

Now you are deflecting issues. This thread is pertinently about PSV insurance and fare paying passengers. Kwani you did not learn about context in the school you attended, Shame on you

In kenyan pallance, "bodaboda" is a motorcycle
used for conducting business of ferrying passengers mainly, and sometimes goods. Now you know. Sasa kindly direct me to relevant law on PSV for bodaboda.



NATIONAL TRANSPORT AND SAFETY AUTHORITY (OPERATION OF MOTORCYCLES) REGULATIONS, 2015
[L.N. 19/2015.]


http://kenyalaw.org/lex/...eg=No.%2033%20of%202012


Bodaboda should have PSV insurance - see Regulation 5(e).


Ok. Point noted. Bodaboda should have PSV insurance.

However what constitutes a PSV is not well defined in the Act. I think that is a loop hole for NipeLift


What is the loophole? It's very clear that if you use your car for hire or reward, you should comply with PSV requirements.


Maybe I have missed the clause that says this explicitly. In fact exchange of money is not even mentioned, at least not in above quoted act.



@Mawinder has quoted the Act extensively. But Just a reminder. Section 2 of traffic Act reads:

“public service vehicle” means any motor vehicle which—

(a) is licensed under Part XI to carry passengers for hire or reward; or
(b) plies for hire or reward or is let out for hire or reward; or
(c) is carrying passengers for hire or reward;

If a word is not defined in an Act, you go for the ordinary english meaning.


Reward in ordinary English means "a thing given in recognition of service, effort, or achievement". Synonyms for reward include "price", "payment", "profit", "advantage", "tip", "consideration".



https://www.google.com/s...id-browser&q=reward




Thanks for highlighting and bringing out the truth about this criminal enterprise..
Chaka
#100 Posted : Saturday, December 22, 2018 7:33:12 PM
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Joined: 2/16/2007
Posts: 2,114
[quote=WakaWak

@Mawinder has quoted the Act extensively. But Just a reminder. Section 2 of traffic Act reads:

“public service vehicle” means any motor vehicle which—

(a) is licensed under Part XI to carry passengers for hire or reward; or
(b) plies for hire or reward or is let out for hire or reward; or
(c) is carrying passengers for hire or reward;

If a word is not defined in an Act, you go for the ordinary english meaning.


Reward in ordinary English means "a thing given in recognition of service, effort, or achievement". Synonyms for reward include "price", "payment", "profit", "advantage", "tip", "consideration".



https://www.google.com/s...id-browser&q=reward



[/quote]
Where is reward captured if the passengers were to pay in kind and the vehicle owner is ok with that?. eg,If I have a bunch of bananas, I pay using that..
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