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Tithing:Scamming in the name of God and the 13 Tribes of Israel
hamburglar
#11 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2018 6:40:16 AM
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Religious low IQ idiots who can’t even afford to put food on their tables are the first ones to give these conmen pastors tithe money to buy homes in Runda and gas guzzling SUVs. There is some stupidity in this world that can never really be explained. A religious idiot with torn shoes and a patched up shirt going to church every Sunday on an empty stomach to give money to some conman entertainer that will go have a five course meal with his family at an expensive fancy restaurant after the service. While the religious idiot goes home nickel and diming coins to buy food for his starving family. How can people be so stupid?

I know a pastor who always has lunch with like 12 of his extended family members every Sunday after service at a very very exclusive restaurant. Meanwhile, his proverbial sheep look worse than real sheep. Poverty stricken lot who worship this conman. Keep tithing to these pastors all you want, that’s your problem religious people, after all, stupid is as stupid does.
masukuma
#12 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:38:15 AM
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I have 2 opinions on this...
Opinion 1: Tithing is in the bible and a practice widely practiced by Christians in poor countries/societies. To me it's in the same bracket as betting So Kama hutoi... wacha panganga...
I remember a certain song by Jemimah Thiongo... UMBEA!! she asks...
Quote:
...♫Wewe watoa ngapi kati ya sadaka?...♪ama zako zaliwa zingali mfukoni♫...Umbea Umbea♪


Opinion 2: A fool and his money are soon parted! Tithing will not make you rich... (unless you receive them), you may make more money from betting on whatever platform than tithing. Having said that... mimi sitoi! so wacha nikule popcorn as people discuss how the wisdom of the ancients is applicable today

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kaka2za
#13 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:20:00 AM
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masukuma wrote:
I have 2 opinions on this...
Opinion 1: Tithing is in the bible and a practice widely practiced by Christians in poor countries/societies. To me it's in the same bracket as betting So Kama hutoi... wacha panganga...
I remember a certain song by Jemimah Thiongo... UMBEA!! she asks...
Quote:
...♫Wewe watoa ngapi kati ya sadaka?...♪ama zako zaliwa zingali mfukoni♫...Umbea Umbea♪


Opinion 2: A fool and his money are soon parted! Tithing will not make you rich... (unless you receive them), you may make more money from betting on whatever platform than tithing. Having said that... mimi sitoi! so wacha nikule popcorn as people discuss how the wisdom of the ancients is applicable today



I will disagree on the matter of poor countries . Most of the big churches and church institutions including faith based NGOs are financed by tithes from the West.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
masukuma
#14 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:46:23 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
masukuma wrote:
I have 2 opinions on this...
Opinion 1: Tithing is in the bible and a practice widely practiced by Christians in poor countries/societies. To me it's in the same bracket as betting So Kama hutoi... wacha panganga...
I remember a certain song by Jemimah Thiongo... UMBEA!! she asks...
Quote:
...♫Wewe watoa ngapi kati ya sadaka?...♪ama zako zaliwa zingali mfukoni♫...Umbea Umbea♪


Opinion 2: A fool and his money are soon parted! Tithing will not make you rich... (unless you receive them), you may make more money from betting on whatever platform than tithing. Having said that... mimi sitoi! so wacha nikule popcorn as people discuss how the wisdom of the ancients is applicable today



I will disagree on the matter of poor countries . Most of the big churches and church institutions including faith based NGOs are financed by tithes from the West.


that's why I added 'societies'. really rich people have never tithed Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly there are middleclass enclaves in the west that 'give' towards faith based organizations. of course there are exceptions to this but 'generally speaking'... rich/wealthy people don't give so that they become rich/wealthy - they give WHEN they are rich/wealthy...
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Mtu Biz
#15 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:51:45 AM
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alma1
#16 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:56:08 AM
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I will never give anyone my money ati 10%

That one go tell the pastor if you wish. Tuone which fire you guys are waiting for me to go to.

Ati give a rich lazy bone shouting and screaming motivational speaker 10% in the name of going to heaven... That is bribing Jesus.

You can stay with that heaven...

However, I have every reason to help with what I can afford those that need real help. More than the 10% when the case arises..
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

tycho
#17 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2018 11:19:52 AM
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Tithing is about recognizing God's provision to an individual. As such a human can never be wealthy in relation to God.

And the objective of humanity can never be amassing of wealth as far as relation to and with God is concerned.

To argue in terms of wealth and envy of people eating nyama choma is to fail to understand who God is and how He relates with humanity.
masukuma
#18 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2018 11:34:14 AM
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tycho wrote:
Tithing is about recognizing God's provision to an individual. As such a human can never be wealthy in relation to God.

And the objective of humanity can never be amassing of wealth as far as relation to and with God is concerned.

To argue in terms of wealth and envy of people eating nyama choma is to fail to understand who God is and how He relates with humanity.

All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
hamburglar
#19 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2018 1:43:38 PM
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Shouldn’t these pastors be arrested for swindling gullible people? I honestly think what they do is a crime.
Swenani
#20 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2018 3:33:17 PM
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hamburglar wrote:
Shouldn’t these pastors be arrested for swindling gullible people? I honestly think what they do is a crime.


I think it should be the tithers to be arrested and not pastors
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