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iyunadeblog
#1 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:35:51 PM
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What’s tithing?
Who was the first person to tithe in the bible?
The 13 Tribes of Israel.
When and why did tithing become a law in the Old Testament?
Is it necessary for Christians under Grace to tithe?
WHAT’S TITHING?
Tithing = Tenth!
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD’S: it is holy unto the LORD. ( Leviticus 27:30 ).

Tithe or Tenth is the proportion of a harvest dedicated for Religious purposes in the early days of Judaism.
Adams’ family made sacrifices to the Lord, but they never offered a tenth of their harvest unto the Lord.

WHO WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO TITHE IN THE BIBLE?
The very first person to tithe according to the records of the Bible is Abraham! Abraham offered a tenth of the spoils of war to Melchizedek, not under any compulsion by the law, nor because he wanted to be rich by paying tithes. Remember, he tithed from the spoils of war and not from his properties.
Genesis 14: 20:

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Gathige
#2 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:55:53 PM
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iyunadeblog wrote:


What’s tithing?
Who was the first person to tithe in the bible?
The 13 Tribes of Israel.
When and why did tithing become a law in the Old Testament?
Is it necessary for Christians under Grace to tithe?
WHAT’S TITHING?
Tithing = Tenth!
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD’S: it is holy unto the LORD. ( Leviticus 27:30 ).

Tithe or Tenth is the proportion of a harvest dedicated for Religious purposes in the early days of Judaism.
Adams’ family made sacrifices to the Lord, but they never offered a tenth of their harvest unto the Lord.

WHO WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO TITHE IN THE BIBLE?
The very first person to tithe according to the records of the Bible is Abraham! Abraham offered a tenth of the spoils of war to Melchizedek, not under any compulsion by the law, nor because he wanted to be rich by paying tithes. Remember, he tithed from the spoils of war and not from his properties.
Genesis 14: 20:

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If those tithing have no problem, be and let them be.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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tycho
#3 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2018 3:33:46 PM
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Tithing appears to be a law that must be followed if a human is to keep contact and harmony with God.

The first person to tithe is likely to have been Adam. If the records show Abraham and Melchizedek participating in such an exchange then it must have been an institution. Adam is of the order of Melchizedek, hence it must be that Adam tithed.

That the institution survives is good news. Even in the case of abuse of office by stewards of God's Kingdom.
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Drobos fly
#4 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2018 5:08:01 PM
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Many reason that tithing is an old testament thing and we shouldn't be doing it, well here's what Jesus had to say about it......

Luke 11:42

“But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone."

It follows that it should never be used by preachers to extort anything from anyone. Many who practice so, will be answerable and dearly so because of the hypocrisy of using God's word to enrich themselves. Tithing is an act of faith, an act that demonstrates you acknowledge who is your provider, without such a mentality, tithing is more or less in vain.
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murchr
#5 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2018 5:25:26 PM
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Tithing is not the same as offering sacrifice, is it?

I think tithing was borrowed from ancient Babylonian parables
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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tycho
#6 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:36:43 PM
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murchr wrote:
Tithing is not the same as offering sacrifice, is it?

I think tithing was borrowed from ancient Babylonian parables


A sacrifice is for propitiation after the commission of a sin or transgression. A tithe is an act of remembering and affirming a socioeconomic relation between humans and God.

It is a consequence of knowledge of the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, whose history is ancient and probably goes into ancient times before Egypt or Sumer.

The Babylonians might have been a strong force in the time of compiling the Torah by virtue of keeping the tradition alive.
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murchr
#7 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:56:28 PM
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tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
Tithing is not the same as offering sacrifice, is it?

I think tithing was borrowed from ancient Babylonian parables


A sacrifice is for propitiation after the commission of a sin or transgression. A tithe is an act of remembering and affirming a socioeconomic relation between humans and God.

It is a consequence of knowledge of the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, whose history is ancient and probably goes into ancient times before Egypt or Sumer.

The Babylonians might have been a strong force in the time of compiling the Torah by virtue of keeping the tradition alive.


The babylonian parable talks about paying yourself 10% (save) and invest after a year.(For every 10 coins you get, take out for use but one...and your purse will be fattened.) Me thinks this parable was borrowed and included in the holy txt by pharisees, changing it to take that 10% to "God"
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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iyunadeblog
#8 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2018 7:11:23 PM
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murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
Tithing is not the same as offering sacrifice, is it?

I think tithing was borrowed from ancient Babylonian parables


A sacrifice is for propitiation after the commission of a sin or transgression. A tithe is an act of remembering and affirming a socioeconomic relation between humans and God.

It is a consequence of knowledge of the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, whose history is ancient and probably goes into ancient times before Egypt or Sumer.

The Babylonians might have been a strong force in the time of compiling the Torah by virtue of keeping the tradition alive.


The babylonian parable talks about paying yourself 10% (save) and invest after a year.(For every 10 coins you get, take out for use but one...and your purse will be fattened.) Me thinks this parable was borrowed and included in the holy txt by pharisees, changing it to take that 10% to "God"


back what you say with scriptures! The writer of the article quoted lots of scriptures to back up his write-up why tithing is a scam today. Read the blog post here: https://www.iyunadeblog.com/tithing/ and counteract him with scriptures
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tycho
#9 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2018 7:13:58 PM
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murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
Tithing is not the same as offering sacrifice, is it?

I think tithing was borrowed from ancient Babylonian parables


A sacrifice is for propitiation after the commission of a sin or transgression. A tithe is an act of remembering and affirming a socioeconomic relation between humans and God.

It is a consequence of knowledge of the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, whose history is ancient and probably goes into ancient times before Egypt or Sumer.

The Babylonians might have been a strong force in the time of compiling the Torah by virtue of keeping the tradition alive.


The babylonian parable talks about paying yourself 10% (save) and invest after a year.(For every 10 coins you get, take out for use but one...and your purse will be fattened.) Me thinks this parable was borrowed and included in the holy txt by pharisees, changing it to take that 10% to "God"


The parable could also be understood that the Babylonians had ingrained an idea that can be demonstrated from the trees I've mentioned above. And the Israelites emphasized an aspect of it that contrasted with the Babylonians. But the philosophy had the same roots.
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iyunadeblog
#10 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2018 11:27:26 PM
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murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
Tithing is not the same as offering sacrifice, is it?

I think tithing was borrowed from ancient Babylonian parables


A sacrifice is for propitiation after the commission of a sin or transgression. A tithe is an act of remembering and affirming a socioeconomic relation between humans and God.

It is a consequence of knowledge of the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, whose history is ancient and probably goes into ancient times before Egypt or Sumer.

The Babylonians might have been a strong force in the time of compiling the Torah by virtue of keeping the tradition alive.


The babylonian parable talks about paying yourself 10% (save) and invest after a year.(For every 10 coins you get, take out for use but one...and your purse will be fattened.) Me thinks this parable was borrowed and included in the holy txt by pharisees, changing it to take that 10% to "God"


Tithing was right for the Hebrews because it was law, but for Christians, it's wrong! Giving to the poor and less privileged is the right thing to do today.
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