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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:Tokyo wrote:Why is it so hard to build a simple commuter train? Exists but Kenyans would rather go by mat I've used the train a few times, I can tell you it's usually very full It's 1 trip in the morning & one jioni only Improvement of rail services by increasing trips and expanding rail services to unserved areas would greatly ease the traffic mess I still wonder why we only have a morning and an evening train, I think a train every hour or two would make economic sense even for Kenya railways. To Each His Own
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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kayhara wrote:Lolest! wrote:murchr wrote:Tokyo wrote:Why is it so hard to build a simple commuter train? Exists but Kenyans would rather go by mat I've used the train a few times, I can tell you it's usually very full It's 1 trip in the morning & one jioni only Improvement of rail services by increasing trips and expanding rail services to unserved areas would greatly ease the traffic mess I still wonder why we only have a morning and an evening train, I think a train every hour or two would make economic sense even for Kenya railways. Almost everyone goes to work at 8 am and leaves at 5.pm regardless of the sector they work in.You will find Mats parked at Global roundabout during the day because very few travel after 10.am Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 2,040 Location: GA
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Great read by obbo going forward after Monday events very leaders will want to tinker with this industry. "The matatus have now been revealed to be something more than vehicles driven my mad men — they are Nairobi’s most efficient distribution mechanism of its working population" https://mobile.nation.co.ke/blogs/Nairobi-nightmare-not-crazy-matatus/1949942-4883068-t4balt/index.html
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,654
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This what they achieved in making you believe but actually if you remove the matatus let's say from 50 km from CBD Nairobi introduced a proper public transport system you will realize they are not an efficient distribution mechanism. There are enough reports on this done by experts gathering dust in some govt offices. You will realize that transport costs in Nairobi are much higher than more developed cities like Hong Kong
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Quote:“Nairobi is our international city… Tuwache kufanya siasa na hii maneno pia naona drill zinafanywa hata airport, kwa malls kuji prepare against disasters kwa hivyo hata nairobi nilikua nataka kujaribu tuone kama… na bado, tunajipanga na tukiwa tayari na ile mradi wa BRT, tayari lanes tumetengeneza… (I see safety drills carried out in airports and malls and so in Nairobi, I was just trying to see…)
The Governor warned that Nairobi residents must get used to walking to the city centre so that order is restored.
“Kutembea ni exercise na bado mtatembea tena. Tutachunga masilahi ya wale wamama wako na mimba, the physically challenged and the elderly. It is only one kilometer from railways to the CBD. Kama Governor, sitakubali laziness, mtatembea na mtatembea tena,” he vowed. (Walking is good exercise, we will just look after the pregnant, physically challenged and the elderly… As governor, I will not allow laziness, you will walk and will more some more.) https://citizentv.co.ke/..._KuKdfGHYYKixZ8mnEggAel0
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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kaka2za wrote:hardwood wrote:Also why should all those matatus and buses from upcountry come and park withing the city centre the whole day hapo accra, latema rd, river road, nyamakima, tea room etc. Those matatu stages on the outskirts that sonko has proposed should be used by those upcountry matatus and buses and leave the cbd to the nairobi matatus. If one wants to travel upcountry let them board a city matatu and be dropped kwa stage ya matatu za kwao huko outskirts.  Well said. Vehicles from Western should terminate at Kangemi,those from areas past Kenol at Githurai and Mombasa road at Belle vue. In Tz no upcountry vehicle goes past Ubungo. Metro Commuter train will need to be built first. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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wukan wrote:This what they achieved in making you believe but actually if you remove the matatus let's say from 50 km from CBD Nairobi introduced a proper public transport system you will realize they are not an efficient distribution mechanism. There are enough reports on this done by experts gathering dust in some govt offices. You will realize that transport costs in Nairobi are much higher than more developed cities like Hong Kong The govt has no business engaging in business including maize, retail (uchumi), transport business etc. Even in London the UK govt contracts private operators of the london buses aka london matatus to run public transport in london. Our matatus are also privately owned and profit driven and therefore the owners MUST compete and make money to stay in business. This ensures that it is only the best service providers who survive in that sector. There is a time kenya had nyayo buses that were cash cows for the fat cats in govt. They ate all the money until they couldn't even afford to buy spares and tires to keep the buses on the road. We don't want such a scenario repeating itself.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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How to fix the transport jam problem FOREVER. The solution is to reduce the number of lanes on a road, not expanding them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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hardwood wrote:How to fix the transport jam problem FOREVER. The solution is to reduce the number of lanes on a road, not expanding them. Also roundabouts should NOT have traffic lights! https://www.wsdot.wa.gov...oundabouts/benefits.htm
Quote:Roundabouts move traffic through an intersection more quickly, and with less congestion on approaching roads. Roundabouts promote a continuous flow of traffic. Unlike intersections with traffic signals, drivers don’t have to wait for a green light at a roundabout to get through the intersection. Traffic is not required to stop – only yield – so the intersection can handle more traffic in the same amount of time.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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hardwood wrote:How to fix the transport jam problem FOREVER. The solution is to reduce the number of lanes on a road, not expanding them. I agree with the video. Kibaki must have been crazy to think that the way to reduce traffic on tom mboya, uhuru highway, city centre etc was to expand thika road from 2 lanes to a 12 lane superhighway.
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