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Rank: Member Joined: 11/9/2007 Posts: 420 Location: Nairobi
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mukiha wrote:groupielove wrote:I don't agree with anything that you've said above. That's so western. This is Africa my friend and though i don't have to whisper love words to my loved ones, they will know by my action that they are loved Which ACTIONS are your talking about? Please elaborate. @RicDees takes his wife [and family] out to see and touch baby elephants. After that, he doesn't have to tell them he loves them; they will know it. But he tells them all the same [Ric, correct me if I'm wrong; you do tell them don't you?] I take my family to Central Park, we eat chips together. The kids play at the swings and monkey bars while my wife sleeps on my lap as I read the paper and update her on what I'm reading. After that; I don't have to tell them that I love them - they know - but I tell them anyway. @groupielove; have you ever been told "I love you" by your five-year-old child? Those are the sweetest words you can hear. I imagine they feel the same way when I tell them. So I do it. @Muhiha....ebu tell them for they do not know what they are missing...na wababa in the house.... how many of us can be counted in the 17% statistic? helping our kid with homework....what better way to show and receive tons upon tons of Pure angelic love? Opinion is free, truth is sacred.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/30/2006 Posts: 635
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If it was a campaign speech, Ric Dees would have ran with the prize
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/7/2010 Posts: 282 Location: Nairobi
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It is unfortunate that couples divorce after marriage. It is/was never intended to be this way. It is a heartbreaking experience and should never be encouraged.
Marriage/family is the foundation upon which thenation is built and failure in this institution is a reflection of the society.
Love, respect and friendship are the glow that holds marriage together. It is the responsibility of the man to love the wife. What's the difficulty of saying ' I love you' if you mean it?
I think that when the woman earns more than the man, the man feels insecure and instinctively becomes jealous of the wife. Instead of being jealous and blaming the wife, I think the man should be man enough to increase his means and prove that he is man by loving the wife instaed of being insecure.
Communication (daily,hourly etc) and friendship is the lifeline of marriage. When couple talk and agree/decide regarding love, respect, money, in-laws, trust, investments etc then the bond of marriage becomes cemented. Remember husband and wife are ONE. So major decisions must be made together!
Where communication or friendship is broken, then mistrust and suspicion exists and marriage rests on shaky ground.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/6/2008 Posts: 632
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@Groupielove..whats so western with telling your wife/girlfriend/children you love them! but if you think that's being western well your choice. @mukiha oh yes i do all the time. @Gathinga that was not the intention, but it saddens me the rot that has found it's way in Kenya's marriages we are all to blame, if i can offer hope to those who think it's a failed institution well i'd be glad to. For those with children that can read and write, give a second party a task to ask your child/ren to write one word that best describes you, my friends that in essence will tell you if you are on the right track or not. @groupielove..i have just sent an email to wife telling her i love her, call it what you want but that's just me!! The greatest danger in times of turbulence is not the turbulence; it is to act with yesterday's logic.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/7/2009 Posts: 320 Location: nairobi
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Thank you msotoville,Muhika, Wendz,Ricdees
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/30/2006 Posts: 635
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Ric dees wrote:@ @Gathinga that was not the intention, but it saddens me the rot that has found it's way in Kenya's marriages we are all to blame, if i can offer hope to those who think it's a failed institution well i'd be glad to. ! @Ric. When I grow up I want to be you!! On a serious note. I feel you on this issue. its absolutely disgusting how we men treat women and family around here. It didn't occur to me until recently, how bad this is. Look no further for an answer to soaring divorce rates. It was all good and acceptable to treat women badly when they had no means to support themselves.But we can no longer treat them that way when they are achievers in their own right...they can even afford to live on their own. In a nutshell, we have refused to change with the times. Am not sure however, about the roving eye of the man. @Ric, are you able to completely keep off from this hot gal here or there who comes your way and is all willing to play ball? If yes, where do you draw your inspiration and philosophy from?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/30/2006 Posts: 635
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,579
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Isn't it funny how science is always dismissed by some fine sounding lay arguments? (@wendz for example, very sweet, but no foundation for the ideas). I thought we would be celebrating the research and seeing how to re-style our relationships but shock on me! I remember how resistant and skeptical Kenyans were of opinion polls "this steadman, who did he interview? only 2100 people?" only for them to later come see the accuracy and value on polling. Believe me the science i have written about on this thread before is real AND CAN ONLY HELP YOU MAKE BETTER DECISIONS. Of course there are exceptions but you should know not to be guided by exceptions. What a child needs MOST is a stable protective home and not this "touchy feely" staff about telling kids and spouses "i love you" all over the place, it will never take the place of a stable family. And that is love in action. I provide, protect and ensure my family grows together. Hollywood has clearly shown us this "marshy marshy" family ideas are fake. Take facts, let us begin by examining divorce rates worldwide and RIC DEES TAKE NOTE OF THE UNITED KINGDOM where everyone is hugging each other and saying "i love you", 42.6% are divorcing and going up, yet families go to the park together e.t.c, I don't think you have anything to tell us about strong family. On the other hand, Indians marry strangers who are vetted on logical criteria and the divorce rate is 1.1%. With this "touchy feely" upbringing families are headed nowhere but clearly for more divorce and a nation of openly "plugs and sockets". Yes! that is what you are potentially creating! Not bringing up men. Why not spend time with your boys showing them how to work, fish, garden rather than acting out "Dance with my father - Luther Vandross" mixing them with your daughter's and playing together as a family? Why not leave the girls to be modeled by their Mum? Be realistic! Rank Country Percent 1 India 1.1 2 Sri Lanka 1.5 3 Japan 1.9 4 Republic of Macedonia 5.0 5 Bosnia and Herzegovina 5.0 6 Turkey 6.0 7 Armenia 6.0 8 Georgia 6.6 9 Italy 10.0 10 Azerbaijan 10.3 11 Albania 10.9 12 Israel 14.8 13 Spain 15.2 14 Croatia 15.5 15 Greece 15.7 16 Singapore 17.2 17 Poland 17.2 18 Romania 19.1 19 Slovenia 20.7 20 Bulgaria 21.1 21 Switzerland 25.5 22 Portugal 26.2 23 Slovakia 26.9 24 Moldova 28.1 25 Latvia 34.4 26 Canada 37.0 27 Hungary 37.5 28 Netherlands 38.3 29 France 38.3 30 Lithuania 38.9 31 Germany 39.4 32 Iceland 39.5 33 Ukraine 40.0 34 Norway 40.4 35 United Kingdom 42.6 36 Russia 43.3 37 Czech Republic 43.3 38 Austria 43.4 39 Belgium 44.0 40 Denmark 44.5 41 Estonia 46.7 42 Luxembourg 47.4 43 Finland 51.2 44 Belarus 52.9 45 United States 54.8 46 Sweden 54.9 Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 399
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Ric Dees is one sexy man, kwanza the accent...good to know you are also a good daddy.........
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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@Much Know; despite your name, you don't seem to know much! Your interpretation of data is suspect. Are you implying that those who tell their family "I love you" have a higher divorce rate than those who don't? T establish that scientifically, you'd have to look at the 1.1% who divorce in India, for example, and compare them with the remaining 98.9% who don't: objective being to find out how often the husbands in these groups say I love you to the wives. Same applies to the families that go on outings in the UK. BTW: are you married? If not, then your opinion, however valid it appears, is untested. Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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