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Kenya Power - what's the latest?
VituVingiSana
#521 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:44:07 AM
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Things are going well at KPLC
https://www.standardmedi...h-400m-dues-for-projects
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#522 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2018 11:06:29 AM
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[quote=VituVingiSana]Things are going well at KPLC
https://www.standardmedi...-400m-dues-for-projects[/quote]

Contractors from North Rift demonstrating in Eldoret town.
These people
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Ali Baba
#523 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:11:01 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]Things are going well at KPLC
https://www.standardmedi...-400m-dues-for-projects[/quote]

Contractors from North Rift demonstrating in Eldoret town.
These people

There are KPLC contractors here."these people" will start demonstrating in Nairobi soon.Cheers wazuans.
Ebenyo
#524 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:39:45 PM
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[quote=VituVingiSana]Things are going well at KPLC
https://www.standardmedi...-400m-dues-for-projects[/quote]


Its good these guys are now coming out at the right time.When the cases have just began,they will do well to explain in court some of the dubious contracts they were awarded.
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muandiwambeu
#525 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2018 7:40:04 PM
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[quote=VituVingiSana]Things are going well at KPLC
https://www.standardmedi...-400m-dues-for-projects[/quote]
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly , not with all this wwwwhash. smile smile smile smile Pray Pray Pray ,,. My green bucks are stuck inside the damn machine,can somebody hint me. Nah.Drool
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
VituVingiSana
#526 Posted : Friday, July 20, 2018 11:23:23 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
I hope folks understood that I was being sarcastic! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

After the payment drama with @sparkly [Safcom has made it harder to make payments using that method] and non-payment from @Obiero ... no more bets.

Nevertheless, I wager that there is a LOT more rot in KPLC from the supply of poles, cables, conductors, etc that will far exceed the KES 400mn lost from the purchase of poor quality transformers!

Then there are liabilities not recorded or acknowledged. As well as assets that could be missing.

If a proper audit of all assets and liabilities is done, I expect a hit to the P&L and Balance Sheet.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#527 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2018 4:53:18 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I hope folks understood that I was being sarcastic! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

After the payment drama with @sparkly [Safcom has made it harder to make payments using that method] and non-payment from @Obiero ... no more bets.

Nevertheless, I wager that there is a LOT more rot in KPLC from the supply of poles, cables, conductors, etc that will far exceed the KES 400mn lost from the purchase of poor quality transformers!

Then there are liabilities not recorded or acknowledged. As well as assets that could be missing.

If a proper audit of all assets and liabilities is done, I expect a hit to the P&L and Balance Sheet.


Profit will be there but the cashflow statement has received a serious hammering/battering
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target1360
#528 Posted : Sunday, December 02, 2018 9:32:09 PM
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target1360 wrote:
105 billion debt and Gava control isnot appealing to me.only reason one would buy this is for empire building and ego massage




Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

My views remain
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target1360
#529 Posted : Sunday, December 02, 2018 9:34:25 PM
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target1360 wrote:
moneydust wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
target1360 wrote:
105 billion debt and Gava control isnot appealing to me.only reason one would buy this is for empire building and ego massage

this theories of fear have denied people easy gains,someone is holding kplc bought at 18bob and here Iam only advising an exit of 12-14...is the debt apportioned to you when you make gains and exit?


That's very true..too much of fear makes one a poor investor.I have staked my everything on this share.
How can you be wrong with a monopoly,dealing in a precious commodity and beneficiary of govt grants.
At this rock bottom prices really, where is the risk?


Lets say the debt and government appointed management makes kplc an investment that is beyond my circle of competence.

Good luck.


My views remain. My apologies @ Moneydust
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target1360
#530 Posted : Sunday, December 02, 2018 9:36:05 PM
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target1360 wrote:
does kplc realy have absolute pricing power like a real monopoly?
i don expect kplc to ever make super normal profits in the fore seeable future.
The earning and dividends are tiny.
The management is below par due to political influence
high investment costs for ppe.
cleary kplc is simply beyond me




Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
I find satisfaction in owning great business,not trading them
maka
#531 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2020 10:03:52 AM
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maka wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]KPLC lied to prez re: last mile says Standard. CEO is Tarus.
KPC drama in 1.2bn SCADA project. Former CEO Tanui. Current CEO Sang.

I continue to stay far away from from GoK owned, controlled or heavily influenced firms.
My sole exception is KenRe but I watch it carefully. Any sign of funny business and I cut and run.
Safaricom, despite GoK Treasury's 25%, is controlled by Vodafone (40%). That has saved the firm from being a cash cow for connected folks.

Thieves, Thieves, Thieves ............ glad i bailed out

I did call this a peny stock on fundamentals. Those who are looking to what was is and is to come should know the pay cheque is booked by allien bound for mars. Kplc will in less than three years declare unsurmountable shocks rivalling kqs 2014 or 2015. Do figure or Wait and see how shxt do hit the fan.


Reminded me of this story...

Kenya Power has taken loans worth Sh105 billion, as it accumulates debt to fund its large infrastructure projects. A breakdown of the loans in its 2016 financial statements shows that the company has been most aggressive in accumulating credit in the last three years, doubling its debt from the Sh53 billion it had at the end of June 2014. The loan uptake has seen interest rates emerge as one of the main risks for the company to watch out for...


https://www.standardmedi...funds-for-mega-projects[/quote]


It was written....
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Ericsson
#532 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2020 10:20:47 AM
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maka wrote:
maka wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]KPLC lied to prez re: last mile says Standard. CEO is Tarus.
KPC drama in 1.2bn SCADA project. Former CEO Tanui. Current CEO Sang.

I continue to stay far away from from GoK owned, controlled or heavily influenced firms.
My sole exception is KenRe but I watch it carefully. Any sign of funny business and I cut and run.
Safaricom, despite GoK Treasury's 25%, is controlled by Vodafone (40%). That has saved the firm from being a cash cow for connected folks.

Thieves, Thieves, Thieves ............ glad i bailed out

I did call this a peny stock on fundamentals. Those who are looking to what was is and is to come should know the pay cheque is booked by allien bound for mars. Kplc will in less than three years declare unsurmountable shocks rivalling kqs 2014 or 2015. Do figure or Wait and see how shxt do hit the fan.


Reminded me of this story...

Kenya Power has taken loans worth Sh105 billion, as it accumulates debt to fund its large infrastructure projects. A breakdown of the loans in its 2016 financial statements shows that the company has been most aggressive in accumulating credit in the last three years, doubling its debt from the Sh53 billion it had at the end of June 2014. The loan uptake has seen interest rates emerge as one of the main risks for the company to watch out for...


https://www.standardmedi...funds-for-mega-projects[/quote]


It was written....


And that was the Jubilee manifesto
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
HaMaina
#533 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2020 3:12:22 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]KPLC lied to prez re: last mile says Standard. CEO is Tarus.
KPC drama in 1.2bn SCADA project. Former CEO Tanui. Current CEO Sang.

I continue to stay far away from from GoK owned, controlled or heavily influenced firms.
My sole exception is KenRe but I watch it carefully. Any sign of funny business and I cut and run.
Safaricom, despite GoK Treasury's 25%, is controlled by Vodafone (40%). That has saved the firm from being a cash cow for connected folks.

Thieves, Thieves, Thieves ............ glad i bailed out

I did call this a peny stock on fundamentals. Those who are looking to what was is and is to come should know the pay cheque is booked by allien bound for mars. Kplc will in less than three years declare unsurmountable shocks rivalling kqs 2014 or 2015. Do figure or Wait and see how shxt do hit the fan.


Reminded me of this story...

Kenya Power has taken loans worth Sh105 billion, as it accumulates debt to fund its large infrastructure projects. A breakdown of the loans in its 2016 financial statements shows that the company has been most aggressive in accumulating credit in the last three years, doubling its debt from the Sh53 billion it had at the end of June 2014. The loan uptake has seen interest rates emerge as one of the main risks for the company to watch out for...


https://www.standardmedi...funds-for-mega-projects[/quote]


It was written....


And that was the Jubilee manifesto


Tuombe aliyetuumba, atusaidie kuomba zaidi. Wengine watatulipia.
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
HaMaina
#534 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2020 3:14:08 PM
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At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if it hits -1 bob.Sad Sad
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
Blukes
#535 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2020 10:57:34 AM
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HaMaina wrote:
At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if it hits -1 bob.Sad Sad

Come baby come,,,sub 1bobDrool
HaMaina
#536 Posted : Wednesday, September 22, 2021 12:24:36 PM
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EABL to stop use of Kenya Power in Sh22bn plan
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
VituVingiSana
#537 Posted : Wednesday, September 22, 2021 8:04:23 PM
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I expect to see more of these stories though GoK may selfishly sabotage some projects through delays in licensing or other roadblocks.

Williamson Tea put in another solar power array.
Devki uses coal to fire its boilers.
I think Mombasa Cement has a power plant and some wind turbines in Kilifi.
Bamburi has a power plant which can burn garbage and tyres.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#538 Posted : Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:16:13 PM
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There must be a breakthrough in solar power capture and or storage.

That's the only reason why a KShs 75B turnover firm would invest KShs 2.2B an year for 10 years to offset an item of operating costs.
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VituVingiSana
#539 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2021 8:07:09 AM
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sparkly wrote:


There must be a breakthrough in solar power capture and or storage.

That's the only reason why a KShs 75B turnover firm would invest KShs 2.2B an year for 10 years to offset an item of operating costs.

An average of 2.2bn/year is significant but not overly huge for EABL assuming it is spread out over 10 years and it gets:
- Annual savings will offset some of the 2.2bn.
- Depreciation provides a tax shield.
- Carbon credits?
- Inflation (2.2bn in 2022 > 2.2bn in 2032)

Finally, the 1H21 net turnover was 44.5bn (lower than pre-COVID 1H20) so FY21 is likely to be 80-85bn.

22% Gross Margin of 5bn = 1.1bn which covers 50% of the average CAPEX.
22% Gross Margin of 10bn = 2.2bn which covers 100% of the average CAPEX
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maka
#540 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:13:51 AM
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Interesting how a company can be looted and plundered right before our eyes... Very sad state of affairs at KP.
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