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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Profit before tax at ksh.3.089bn Profit after tax at ksh.1.918bn No dividend declared After all the drama, this is much better than I expected. Compare this to some firms that have not turned a profit for 6 years running. Have the accounts been qualified? What's the EPS? How many shares does KPLC have? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:Profit before tax at ksh.3.089bn Profit after tax at ksh.1.918bn No dividend declared Terrible To imagine this is massaged, wapi chairman Cashflow position negative ksh.7.6bn Dead company. If GoK wasnt part of it, would be suspended by now.. It's insolvent HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:Profit before tax at ksh.3.089bn Profit after tax at ksh.1.918bn No dividend declared After all the drama, this is much better than I expected. Compare this to some firms that have not turned a profit for 6 years running. Have the accounts been qualified? What's the EPS? How many shares does KPLC have? Constantly staring at the rear view mirror while driving is not a proper way of going through an investment journey..Seeing an ex doing better in someone else's hands is always painful. Accept and move on HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:Profit before tax at ksh.3.089bn Profit after tax at ksh.1.918bn No dividend declared After all the drama, this is much better than I expected. Compare this to some firms that have not turned a profit for 6 years running. Have the accounts been qualified? What's the EPS?How many shares does KPLC have? Going by the numbers provided by @Ericsson, the EPS is ksh. 1 or thereabouts. Therefore earnings = 28% given the current share price of 3.6. How is Return on Assets(ROA) calculated for firms such as Kenya power? What is the formula? I told you this firm if well managed can rival Safaricom Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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Fyatu wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:Profit before tax at ksh.3.089bn Profit after tax at ksh.1.918bn No dividend declared After all the drama, this is much better than I expected. Compare this to some firms that have not turned a profit for 6 years running. Have the accounts been qualified? What's the EPS?How many shares does KPLC have? Going by the numbers provided by @Ericsson, the EPS is ksh. 1 or thereabouts. Therefore earnings = 28% given the current share price of 3.6. How is Return on Assets(ROA) calculated for firms such as Kenya power? What is the formula? I told you this firm if well managed can rival Safaricom NIL dividends down from 2017's 0.5 per share. Waiting for the market to open we see some massacre African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Fyatu wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:Profit before tax at ksh.3.089bn Profit after tax at ksh.1.918bn No dividend declared After all the drama, this is much better than I expected. Compare this to some firms that have not turned a profit for 6 years running. Have the accounts been qualified? What's the EPS?How many shares does KPLC have? Going by the numbers provided by @Ericsson, the EPS is ksh. 1 or thereabouts. Therefore earnings = 28% given the current share price of 3.6. How is Return on Assets(ROA) calculated for firms such as Kenya power? What is the formula? I told you this firm if well managed can rival Safaricom The key measure for this company isn't the EPS. The problem with this company is cashflow and debt. It's now relying on short term borrowings to meet it's daily obligations.A big chunk of its cash is going towards debt repayments. A look at the balance sheet and the P&L statement shows that long term debt reduced by ksh.23bn,ksh.7.8bn was spent on finance costs. The company cashflow position is at negative ksh.7.6bn The current liabilities have doubled over the past two years. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Sober wrote:Fyatu wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:Profit before tax at ksh.3.089bn Profit after tax at ksh.1.918bn No dividend declared After all the drama, this is much better than I expected. Compare this to some firms that have not turned a profit for 6 years running. Have the accounts been qualified? What's the EPS?How many shares does KPLC have? Going by the numbers provided by @Ericsson, the EPS is ksh. 1 or thereabouts. Therefore earnings = 28% given the current share price of 3.6. How is Return on Assets(ROA) calculated for firms such as Kenya power? What is the formula? I told you this firm if well managed can rival Safaricom NIL dividends down from 2017's 0.5 per share. Waiting for the market to open we see some massacre You were expecting a dividend Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 564 Location: Britain
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KaunganaDoDo wrote:Ericsson wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Arap Mashamba is taking a break. Atarudi. Which worries me about KenRe. We need to research as to which companies were doing well during mtukufu rais moi regime especially here in NSE. Now let's wait for the figures Am told because of the Commissioning of LTWP and REA Garissa, there will be no news today. MARK YOUR CALENDAR for THURSDAY 22 I see no mentioning of Commissioning of LTWP and REA Garissa today. But PBT should be in the range of 2.5 to 3.1...Take the best case scenario of 3.1 due to reduced provisioning Predictions don't come more accurate than this. Hongera!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:Profit before tax at ksh.3.089bn Profit after tax at ksh.1.918bn No dividend declared After all the drama, this is much better than I expected. Compare this to some firms that have not turned a profit for 6 years running. Have the accounts been qualified? What's the EPS? Kshs 0.98 How many shares does KPLC have? Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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Queen wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:Ericsson wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Arap Mashamba is taking a break. Atarudi. Which worries me about KenRe. We need to research as to which companies were doing well during mtukufu rais moi regime especially here in NSE. Now let's wait for the figures Am told because of the Commissioning of LTWP and REA Garissa, there will be no news today. MARK YOUR CALENDAR for THURSDAY 22 I see no mentioning of Commissioning of LTWP and REA Garissa today. But PBT should be in the range of 2.5 to 3.1...Take the best case scenario of 3.1 due to reduced provisioning Predictions don't come more accurate than this. Hongera! This dude is Mr. Reddy Kilowatt himself. He is an insider Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Link to the results Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Sober wrote:Fyatu wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:Profit before tax at ksh.3.089bn Profit after tax at ksh.1.918bn No dividend declared After all the drama, this is much better than I expected. Compare this to some firms that have not turned a profit for 6 years running. Have the accounts been qualified? What's the EPS?How many shares does KPLC have? Going by the numbers provided by @Ericsson, the EPS is ksh. 1 or thereabouts. Therefore earnings = 28% given the current share price of 3.6. How is Return on Assets(ROA) calculated for firms such as Kenya power? What is the formula? I told you this firm if well managed can rival Safaricom NIL dividends down from 2017's 0.5 per share. Waiting for the market to open we see some massacre You were expecting a dividend Hahaha HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/6/2018 Posts: 299
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Ericsson wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsqmUb7WoAAqs2d.jpg:large
Link to the results The MD has confirmed that the Accounts were qualified . What they published today doesn't have Auditor's Opinions
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:Profit before tax at ksh.3.089bn Profit after tax at ksh.1.918bn No dividend declared After all the drama, this is much better than I expected. Compare this to some firms that have not turned a profit for 6 years running. Have the accounts been qualified? What's the EPS? Kshs 0.98 How many shares does KPLC have? Shares issued: 1,951,467,045 African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Eng. Jared Othieno: Provisions for bad debts in excess of 30 days increased substantially from 747M in 2017 to 6B in 2018 due to a more prudent approach in anticipation of the new financial standards that require higher credit provisioning for credit losses. The future outlook of the Company is great and we assure all investors and shareholders that we have put in place proper measures to move us to greater heights. We thank you all! As government, we cannot allow Kenya Power to fall Dr (Eng) Joseph Njoroge, Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Energy Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Now let's wait for the Half year results 3 months from now. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/18/2014 Posts: 1,127
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Ericsson wrote:Fyatu wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:Profit before tax at ksh.3.089bn Profit after tax at ksh.1.918bn No dividend declared After all the drama, this is much better than I expected. Compare this to some firms that have not turned a profit for 6 years running. Have the accounts been qualified? What's the EPS?How many shares does KPLC have? Going by the numbers provided by @Ericsson, the EPS is ksh. 1 or thereabouts. Therefore earnings = 28% given the current share price of 3.6. How is Return on Assets(ROA) calculated for firms such as Kenya power? What is the formula? I told you this firm if well managed can rival Safaricom The key measure for this company isn't the EPS. The problem with this company is cashflow and debt. It's now relying on short term borrowings to meet it's daily obligations.A big chunk of its cash is going towards debt repayments. A look at the balance sheet and the P&L statement shows that long term debt reduced by ksh.23bn,ksh.7.8bn was spent on finance costs. The company cashflow position is at negative ksh.7.6bn The current liabilities have doubled over the past two years. The vital cashflow position (operating and investing) is positive and that is what is used to generate cashflow per share. The financing bit is an FYI appendage coz it isn't internally generated from the core activities of the firm but rather a debt book figure. For example if Kenya Power had taken on more debt than it had paid down in the period reported the net cash position from financing activities would have been a positive and will help fib the bottom line net cash position. The worrying bit is the negative working capital. As much as they paid down long term debt to the tune of 23b they took on short term obligations and decimated its cash holdings (probably from penalties of nonpayment) while at it. This will cripple the firm if the same trend persists. For the P&L, both the gross and operating margins are shrinking...and after the supposed fudging that's been talked about. As for the ROA, even working with the bottom line of 3b, for a firm with an asset book in excess of 336b that is a paltry 0.89%. The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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Angelica _ann wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:Profit before tax at ksh.3.089bn Profit after tax at ksh.1.918bn No dividend declared Terrible To imagine this is massaged, wapi chairman Ericsson ndio chairman. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:Profit before tax at ksh.3.089bn Profit after tax at ksh.1.918bn No dividend declared Terrible To imagine this is massaged, wapi chairman Cashflow position negative ksh.7.6bn Dead company. If GoK wasnt part of it, would be suspended by now.. It's insolvent Company is in negative working capital,current liabilities having exceeded current liabilities by Sh51.67 billion or 48.5 per cent. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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Fyatu wrote:Queen wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:Ericsson wrote:KaunganaDoDo wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Arap Mashamba is taking a break. Atarudi. Which worries me about KenRe. We need to research as to which companies were doing well during mtukufu rais moi regime especially here in NSE. Now let's wait for the figures Am told because of the Commissioning of LTWP and REA Garissa, there will be no news today. MARK YOUR CALENDAR for THURSDAY 22 I see no mentioning of Commissioning of LTWP and REA Garissa today. But PBT should be in the range of 2.5 to 3.1...Take the best case scenario of 3.1 due to reduced provisioning Predictions don't come more accurate than this. Hongera! This dude is Mr. Reddy Kilowatt himself. He is an insider @Kaunganadodo, he is truly an insider.On behalf of obiero,pesanane,vvs,angelicaann and ericson,welcome to wazua. dont disappear coz we value your input. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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