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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
freiks
#11321 Posted : Thursday, November 15, 2018 2:49:48 PM
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I wonder why some people are too hard on KQ, Ethiopian delayed its flights to Mogadishu by more than 3 weeks and downgraded them from daily to 3 times a week. I have never seen a business that picks in a day
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obiero
#11322 Posted : Thursday, November 15, 2018 3:01:11 PM
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freiks wrote:
I wonder why some people are too hard on KQ, Ethiopian delayed its flights to Mogadishu by more than 3 weeks and downgraded them from daily to 3 times a week. I have never seen a business that picks in a day

People here don't have anything against KQ, they have it in for @Obiero who they want to see fail but I keep winning 🙋🏾‍♂️

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Swenani
#11323 Posted : Thursday, November 15, 2018 3:31:32 PM
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obiero wrote:
freiks wrote:
I wonder why some people are too hard on KQ, Ethiopian delayed its flights to Mogadishu by more than 3 weeks and downgraded them from daily to 3 times a week. I have never seen a business that picks in a day

People here don't have anything against KQ, they have it in for @Obiero who they want to see fail but I keep winning 🙋🏾‍♂️


Yawa!
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maka
#11324 Posted : Thursday, November 15, 2018 3:45:00 PM
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Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
freiks wrote:
I wonder why some people are too hard on KQ, Ethiopian delayed its flights to Mogadishu by more than 3 weeks and downgraded them from daily to 3 times a week. I have never seen a business that picks in a day

People here don't have anything against KQ, they have it in for @Obiero who they want to see fail but I keep winning 🙋🏾‍♂️


Yawa!



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VituVingiSana
#11325 Posted : Thursday, November 15, 2018 6:56:20 PM
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obiero wrote:
freiks wrote:
I wonder why some people are too hard on KQ, Ethiopian delayed its flights to Mogadishu by more than 3 weeks and downgraded them from daily to 3 times a week. I have never seen a business that picks in a day

People here don't have anything against KQ, they have it in for @Obiero who they want to see fail but I keep winning 🙋🏾‍♂️

I am down 100% in ARM while you are down 50% in KQ so, yes, you are leading Applause Applause Applause
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#11326 Posted : Thursday, November 15, 2018 7:33:39 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
freiks wrote:
I wonder why some people are too hard on KQ, Ethiopian delayed its flights to Mogadishu by more than 3 weeks and downgraded them from daily to 3 times a week. I have never seen a business that picks in a day

People here don't have anything against KQ, they have it in for @Obiero who they want to see fail but I keep winning 🙋🏾‍♂️

I am down 100% in ARM while you are down 50% in KQ so, yes, you are leading Applause Applause Applause

I told you @freiks

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obiero
#11327 Posted : Thursday, November 15, 2018 7:35:10 PM
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@obiero continues to hold 95,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 21.9 representing his final stand, with no further purchase, courtesy of the uncertainty upon KQs previously proposed Open Offer. It's now a matter of waiting and/or hoping for the KAA-KQ tie up; in which P&L factors holding constant, will turn KQ profitable instantly upon merger.. My biggest gamble in securities-life so far as no one now knows where the dice may fall. Maombi..
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COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
obiero
#11328 Posted : Thursday, November 15, 2018 7:36:45 PM
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@obiero continues to hold 95,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 21.9 representing his final stand, with no further purchase, courtesy of the uncertainty upon KQs previously proposed Open Offer. It's now a matter of waiting and/or hoping for the KAA-KQ tie up; in which P&L factors holding constant, will turn KQ profitable instantly upon merger.. My biggest gamble in securities-life so far as no one now knows where the dice may fall. Maombi..


COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
obiero
#11329 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2018 6:18:17 PM
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Hallelujah! It's confirmed.. The Open Offer to proceed in 2019. Listing of terms set to come up as part of AGM for the year ending 31st December 2018

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Angelica _ann
#11330 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2018 8:11:52 PM
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obiero wrote:
@obiero continues to hold 95,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 21.9 representing his final stand, with no further purchase, courtesy of the uncertainty upon KQs previously proposed Open Offer. It's now a matter of waiting and/or hoping for the KAA-KQ tie up; in which P&L factors holding constant, will turn KQ profitable instantly upon merger.. My biggest gamble in securities-life so far as no one now knows where the dice may fall. Maombi..



KQ has no shame, getting KAA into their quagmire of crazy losses. This is very sad kabisa, hope it doesn't go through. To each should be their own.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
obiero
#11331 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2018 8:37:48 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
@obiero continues to hold 95,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 21.9 representing his final stand, with no further purchase, courtesy of the uncertainty upon KQs previously proposed Open Offer. It's now a matter of waiting and/or hoping for the KAA-KQ tie up; in which P&L factors holding constant, will turn KQ profitable instantly upon merger.. My biggest gamble in securities-life so far as no one now knows where the dice may fall. Maombi..



KQ has no shame, getting KAA into their quagmire of crazy losses. This is very sad kabisa, hope it doesn't go through. To each should be their own.

We operate under one government. Two state agencies operating in synchronization should only be opposed by enemies of progress

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
obiero
#11332 Posted : Sunday, November 18, 2018 8:39:48 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
@obiero continues to hold 95,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 21.9 representing his final stand, with no further purchase, courtesy of the uncertainty upon KQs previously proposed Open Offer. It's now a matter of waiting and/or hoping for the KAA-KQ tie up; in which P&L factors holding constant, will turn KQ profitable instantly upon merger.. My biggest gamble in securities-life so far as no one now knows where the dice may fall. Maombi..



KQ has no shame, getting KAA into their quagmire of crazy losses. This is very sad kabisa, hope it doesn't go through. To each should be their own.

We operate under one government. Two state agencies operating in synchronization should only be opposed by enemies of progress

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
Horton
#11333 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2018 8:16:49 AM
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obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
@obiero continues to hold 95,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 21.9 representing his final stand, with no further purchase, courtesy of the uncertainty upon KQs previously proposed Open Offer. It's now a matter of waiting and/or hoping for the KAA-KQ tie up; in which P&L factors holding constant, will turn KQ profitable instantly upon merger.. My biggest gamble in securities-life so far as no one now knows where the dice may fall. Maombi..



KQ has no shame, getting KAA into their quagmire of crazy losses. This is very sad kabisa, hope it doesn't go through. To each should be their own.

We operate under one government. Two state agencies operating in synchronization should only be opposed by enemies of progress


Took KQ3 from JFK last week on 12/11 was a great flight. J-class was full economy had seats avail. Very convenient usually would have to connect via AMS/CDG/LHR and that can be difficult with kids/luggage and takes longer to get to NBO
freiks
#11334 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2018 8:50:09 AM
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Horton wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
@obiero continues to hold 95,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 21.9 representing his final stand, with no further purchase, courtesy of the uncertainty upon KQs previously proposed Open Offer. It's now a matter of waiting and/or hoping for the KAA-KQ tie up; in which P&L factors holding constant, will turn KQ profitable instantly upon merger.. My biggest gamble in securities-life so far as no one now knows where the dice may fall. Maombi..



KQ has no shame, getting KAA into their quagmire of crazy losses. This is very sad kabisa, hope it doesn't go through. To each should be their own.

We operate under one government. Two state agencies operating in synchronization should only be opposed by enemies of progress


Took KQ3 from JFK last week on 12/11 was a great flight. J-class was full economy had seats avail. Very convenient usually would have to connect via AMS/CDG/LHR and that can be difficult with kids/luggage and takes longer to get to NBO


Basically those who have been negative on NewYork route have no business in US and they know they will never take that route anytime soon. It used to take me minimum 34 hours to get to Caribbean countries but now am looking at sub 24
Life is an endless adventure
sparkly
#11335 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2018 10:11:38 AM
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freiks wrote:
Horton wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
@obiero continues to hold 95,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 21.9 representing his final stand, with no further purchase, courtesy of the uncertainty upon KQs previously proposed Open Offer. It's now a matter of waiting and/or hoping for the KAA-KQ tie up; in which P&L factors holding constant, will turn KQ profitable instantly upon merger.. My biggest gamble in securities-life so far as no one now knows where the dice may fall. Maombi..



KQ has no shame, getting KAA into their quagmire of crazy losses. This is very sad kabisa, hope it doesn't go through. To each should be their own.

We operate under one government. Two state agencies operating in synchronization should only be opposed by enemies of progress


Took KQ3 from JFK last week on 12/11 was a great flight. J-class was full economy had seats avail. Very convenient usually would have to connect via AMS/CDG/LHR and that can be difficult with kids/luggage and takes longer to get to NBO


Basically those who have been negative on NewYork route have no business in US and they know they will never take that route anytime soon. It used to take me minimum 34 hours to get to Caribbean countries but now am looking at sub 24



Cutomers are happy! Everyone is happy with KQ except the minority shareholders
Life is short. Live passionately.
VituVingiSana
#11336 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2018 11:01:59 AM
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There is a regional anti-Kenya bias https://www.businessdail...58354-wp9cd8z/index.html
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#11337 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2018 11:20:12 AM
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sparkly wrote:
freiks wrote:
Horton wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
@obiero continues to hold 95,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 21.9 representing his final stand, with no further purchase, courtesy of the uncertainty upon KQs previously proposed Open Offer. It's now a matter of waiting and/or hoping for the KAA-KQ tie up; in which P&L factors holding constant, will turn KQ profitable instantly upon merger.. My biggest gamble in securities-life so far as no one now knows where the dice may fall. Maombi..



KQ has no shame, getting KAA into their quagmire of crazy losses. This is very sad kabisa, hope it doesn't go through. To each should be their own.

We operate under one government. Two state agencies operating in synchronization should only be opposed by enemies of progress


Took KQ3 from JFK last week on 12/11 was a great flight. J-class was full economy had seats avail. Very convenient usually would have to connect via AMS/CDG/LHR and that can be difficult with kids/luggage and takes longer to get to NBO


Basically those who have been negative on NewYork route have no business in US and they know they will never take that route anytime soon. It used to take me minimum 34 hours to get to Caribbean countries but now am looking at sub 24



Cutomers are happy! Everyone is happy with KQ except the minority shareholders

KQ management have taken the right steps in steadying the plane through turbulence.. A profit is imminent in 2019 and then we shall see if the minority shareholders will not be happy

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
sparkly
#11338 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2018 11:33:24 AM
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obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
freiks wrote:
Horton wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
@obiero continues to hold 95,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 21.9 representing his final stand, with no further purchase, courtesy of the uncertainty upon KQs previously proposed Open Offer. It's now a matter of waiting and/or hoping for the KAA-KQ tie up; in which P&L factors holding constant, will turn KQ profitable instantly upon merger.. My biggest gamble in securities-life so far as no one now knows where the dice may fall. Maombi..



KQ has no shame, getting KAA into their quagmire of crazy losses. This is very sad kabisa, hope it doesn't go through. To each should be their own.

We operate under one government. Two state agencies operating in synchronization should only be opposed by enemies of progress


Took KQ3 from JFK last week on 12/11 was a great flight. J-class was full economy had seats avail. Very convenient usually would have to connect via AMS/CDG/LHR and that can be difficult with kids/luggage and takes longer to get to NBO


Basically those who have been negative on NewYork route have no business in US and they know they will never take that route anytime soon. It used to take me minimum 34 hours to get to Caribbean countries but now am looking at sub 24



Cutomers are happy! Everyone is happy with KQ except the minority shareholders

KQ management have taken the right steps in steadying the plane through turbulence.. A profit is imminent in 2019 and then we shall see if the minority shareholders will not be happy



Isn't 2019 the year when minority are supposed to pump in 1.5B to be eaten by staff, management and advisors?
Life is short. Live passionately.
sparkly
#11339 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2018 12:14:37 PM
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obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
freiks wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:

Thursday 15.11.2018



Pride of Africa should not be flying to Mogadishu. Violence against the government of solmalia and the occupying forces is the order of the day. KQ is making itself a target of islamists.


We have daily flights by Turkish to Mogadishu and 3 times a week by Ethiopian. Dont ask how i know

Remember Kenya has other underlying issues with some elements in the said destination


Remember in 2016 they tried to blow a Turkish airline plane using some briefcase bomb but didn't work. ET employs crazy security at Mogadishu Airport.


Those boys explode bombs like they are popping corn. They killed 50 and injured 100 after friday prayers last week.

Its sad really. Though the AMISOM security forces are not asleep in MGQ, especially at the fortified greenzone and the Aden Adde airport, Hargesia airport has never had an incident while Kismayo and Berbera landing strips are no go zones. Of note is that KQ in 2006 was undertaking daily flights to MGQ. Liwe liwalo. 15.11.2018 we go live.. Get rich or die trying



It was an issue of insurance. Even the Somalis know Nairobi Mogadishu is a very risky route

Quote:
Somalia stalls Kenya Airways flights with new insurance rules

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maka
#11340 Posted : Monday, November 19, 2018 12:29:28 PM
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On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234.
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