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I feel these stories deserve their own separate thread as they can help many aspiring homeowners. Enjoy! Smart lady. Bought a plot in Kiserian at Oletepes, (dustbowl county of course  ) Did not want to rent nor wait to have all the money to build because money to build is hard to come by. Bought a block making machine and built the house. Her advice: Build the basic structure with roof, move in and finish slowly. Her parting shot (paraphrased); "Don't worry and get depression about having a place to stay. Building a house is so easy."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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MugundaMan wrote:I feel these stories deserve their own separate thread as they can help many aspiring homeowners. Enjoy! Smart lady. Bought a plot in Kiserian at Oletepes, (dustbowl county of course  ) Did not want to rent nor wait to have all the money to build because money to build is hard to come by. Bought a block making machine and built the house. Her advice: Build the basic structure with roof, move in and finish slowly. Her parting shot (paraphrased); "Don't worry and get depression about having a place to stay. Building a house is so easy."
#DustBowlRising @MugundaMan, Please repost the link. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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A homeownership journey from some time back. This couple was not serious. They built a beautiful home in dustbowl, moved in, then "suddenly" discovered living there was impossible  . How now? A few questions for them. 1) When they were going through the process of construction, didn't they encounter the traffic on MSA rd back and forth? Surely they cannot claim they found out msa road traffic is bad after they moved into their house! Why didn't they realise at this point (during construction) that the commute was "too far"? 2) They are talking about "lack of access to medical facilities" as if Nairobi hospital or Karen hospital are located in Turukana  . These hospitals are just a mere few kms away from dustbowl towns bordering Nairobi. 3) They speak of "missing their social life" having grown up in Nairobi. What a reason! Create your social life where you are. If you need to be in Nairobi to have a social life then perhaps your social life is severely in need of drastic changes. 4) As for the kids, I understand how they want to spend more time with them. That is their right. This is the only sensible reason they gave. 5) As for water I almost fell on the ground laughing at that one. Which place in Nairobi does not have water issues of some sort? These guys were just making excuses tu. Moral of the story; if you are addicted to Nairobi, it rules your social life, you want a posh hospital within 2 metres of your house, and you can't stand traffic for a mere few hours a day (if you have to commute), do not build in and move to dustbowl!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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MugundaMan wrote:A homeownership journey from some time back. This couple was not serious. They built a beautiful home in dustbowl, moved in, then "suddenly" discovered living there was impossible  . How now? A few questions for them. 1) When they were going through the process of construction, didn't they encounter the traffic on MSA rd back and forth? Surely they cannot claim they found out msa road traffic is bad after they moved into their house! Why didn't they realise at this point (during construction) that the commute was "too far"? 2) They are talking about "lack of access to medical facilities" as if Nairobi hospital or Karen hospital are located in Turukana  . These hospitals are just a mere few kms away from dustbowl towns bordering Nairobi. 3) They speak of "missing their social life" having grown up in Nairobi. What a reason! Create your social life where you are. If you need to be in Nairobi to have a social life then perhaps your social life is severely in need of drastic changes. 4) As for the kids, I understand how they want to spend more time with them. That is their right. This is the only sensible reason they gave. 5) As for water I almost fell on the ground laughing at that one. Which place in Nairobi does not have water issues of some sort? These guys were just making excuses tu. Moral of the story; if you are addicted to Nairobi, it rules your social life, you want a posh hospital within 2 metres of your house, and you can't stand traffic for a mere few hours a day (if you have to commute), do not build in and move to dustbowl! Makes a good case for gated communities with proper facilities and a social life. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,658
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MugundaMan wrote:A homeownership journey from some time back. This couple was not serious. They built a beautiful home in dustbowl, moved in, then "suddenly" discovered living there was impossible  . How now? A few questions for them. 1) When they were going through the process of construction, didn't they encounter the traffic on MSA rd back and forth? Surely they cannot claim they found out msa road traffic is bad after they moved into their house! Why didn't they realise at this point (during construction) that the commute was "too far"? That msa rd commute is agonizing 2-3 hours a day is not a joke. You end up with all manner of back problems, get late or miss appointments, you leave early and get home so late you can't spend time with kids. 2) They are talking about "lack of access to medical facilities" as if Nairobi hospital or Karen hospital are located in Turukana  . These hospitals are just a mere few kms away from dustbowl towns bordering Nairobi. "lack of access to medical facilities" means there are particular doctors/hospitals that you are used to, you can't trust just everyone. Nairobians were socialized into particular places where treatment was effective-you avoided GoK facilities unless it was an emergency. There are some particular Indian doctors and dentists that used to be highly recommended. I still use the same facilities coz I trust their competence-blame my parents for this.3) They speak of "missing their social life" having grown up in Nairobi. What a reason! Create your social life where you are. If you need to be in Nairobi to have a social life then perhaps your social life is severely in need of drastic changes. Social life ya dust bowl is not sophisticated ni bars and basic restaurants tu, hakuna movies halls, coffee houses, golf clubs, libraries, night clubs where you can meet decent people(remember you posted a video of people stripping some girl because of her attire-wtf!!). Nairobi you can sample all manner of cuisines swahili dishes, indian, ethiopian, chinese. There are business networks that thrive in the nairobi social life. Those are the guys who tell you about job openings, deals, consultancies, they recommend you and your services to their networks. 4) As for the kids, I understand how they want to spend more time with them. That is their right. This is the only sensible reason they gave. 5) As for water I almost fell on the ground laughing at that one. Which place in Nairobi does not have water issues of some sort? These guys were just making excuses tu. Honestly the water issues in dust bowl are legendary. Maji ya chumvi is not really what you want to consume or that flouride that makes you teeth brown/green. nairobians learned to cope with water shortages you have reliable water trucks guys.Moral of the story; if you are addicted to Nairobi, it rules your social life, you want a posh hospital within 2 metres of your house, and you can't stand traffic for a mere few hours a day (if you have to commute), do not build in and move to dustbowl! It's not addiction it's hard to duplicate the nairobian way of life. It's an ecosystem that developed over time when gava & kanjo services failed and it works in its own peculiar manner. From mama mboga, to local shopkeeper, to Omosh the mechanic, the mama wa kufua nguo, the taxi guy. You can always call even at midnite, the doctor friend the lawyer friend those are city networks and you won't find in dustbowl!! Kila nyani na starehe zake
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Wukan returns! The post was too juicy to resist Karibu back to Wazoo, ndugu. Kuingia ni mandazi, kutoka ni Jiwe!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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3rd generation Kenyan-Goan, house on Riara rd. 5br, 2.5 acres. Not well received by the kaburus who dominated the area. House bought by parents in 1954, she bought it from the mother in 1973 for a "whopping" 300,000 kshs! Not many details provided but seems they eventually sold it to buy a bungalow in Karen. She must have minted big. I like her logic about why she wanted a bungalow rather than a maisonette. Great insight for developers who may cater to the older generation in their house designs. Moral of the story as always; buy yesterday. Youngsters, msidharau plots and building on them. What you buy in dustbowl for 1-2m+ and build on may be what will be going for 300m 20 or 30 years down the line! Can't wait for next week's highlight of dustbowl's Jewel in the Crown (Kitengela) on this show
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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As a renter in Thogoto, Miss Mueni makes a great point that developers need to take note of. Yes there is a housing deficit that the supply side must meet, but quality matters not just quantity. So watu wa threadbare bedsitters and apartments with poor finishings beware. If you start seeing high vacancies in this red hot market, perhaps it is not the market itself that is cooling, but the market for your sub-par product is the one that is cooling.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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Yet another smart lady. We see these stories over and over again and they all end up well. Jameni she bought in EmbulBul (dustbowl  ) in 1989. 1/2 Acre for a "whopping" 60,000 kshs! Now you can imagine what the property is worth. I was reading the papers jana about some succession case of a judge whose assets were valued at 5B. Even before finishing the first sentence I already knew that 99% of that net worth had to be from real estate and indeed it was. Dustbowlers (youngsters especially)arise! The future is in your hands. Either you join mama Muchiri and the rest of us in building dustbowl nation for our children's children or we gnash teeth forever saying you are allergic to plots! Ni hayo maoni yangu tu!
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