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obiero
#11021 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2018 2:22:10 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2001299573/it-is-tears-for-owners-of-property-on-jkia-land

It is a fresh round of tears and pain for developers who have built on airport land with property worth billions set for demolition.
An estimated 50 warehouses will be pulled down before October 28 when direct flights from the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport to New York commence.
Undeveloped plots will also be restored to the Kenya Civil Aviation Authority (KCAA).

This was anticipated.. Its a very risky route for the USA

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#11022 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2018 6:16:43 PM
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Rather than pumping in more cash into the moribund "Kenya Airways Plc" the designation of KQ should be transferred to a "New KQ" immediately.

All sensible contracts, routes, agreements and necessary employees should move to "New KQ" while the unwanted liabilities and employees stay at "Old KQ"...

"New KQ" would be owned by the creditors but it can rise like a phoenix over the next few years without the baggage of the "Old KQ" tying it down.

KQLC should take a haircut and GoK should make good on its guarantees to KQLC.

NOT AN EASY DECISION TO MAKE.

Good luck!
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#11023 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2018 6:55:09 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Rather than pumping in more cash into the moribund "Kenya Airways Plc" the designation of KQ should be transferred to a "New KQ" immediately.

All sensible contracts, routes, agreements and necessary employees should move to "New KQ" while the unwanted liabilities and employees stay at "Old KQ"...

"New KQ" would be owned by the creditors but it can rise like a phoenix over the next few years without the baggage of the "Old KQ" tying it down.

KQLC should take a haircut and GoK should make good on its guarantees to KQLC.

NOT AN EASY DECISION TO MAKE.

Good luck!

Wewe unaishi kwa vacuum

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#11024 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2018 8:35:19 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Rather than pumping in more cash into the moribund "Kenya Airways Plc" the designation of KQ should be transferred to a "New KQ" immediately.

All sensible contracts, routes, agreements and necessary employees should move to "New KQ" while the unwanted liabilities and employees stay at "Old KQ"...

"New KQ" would be owned by the creditors but it can rise like a phoenix over the next few years without the baggage of the "Old KQ" tying it down.

KQLC should take a haircut and GoK should make good on its guarantees to KQLC.

NOT AN EASY DECISION TO MAKE.

Good luck!


Or just spin-off JamboJet and make it the national carrier with leased assets. Leave the creditors to scavenge KQ. Sometimes painful decisions have to be made.
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#11025 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2018 9:48:31 PM
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sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Rather than pumping in more cash into the moribund "Kenya Airways Plc" the designation of KQ should be transferred to a "New KQ" immediately.

All sensible contracts, routes, agreements and necessary employees should move to "New KQ" while the unwanted liabilities and employees stay at "Old KQ"...

"New KQ" would be owned by the creditors but it can rise like a phoenix over the next few years without the baggage of the "Old KQ" tying it down.

KQLC should take a haircut and GoK should make good on its guarantees to KQLC.

NOT AN EASY DECISION TO MAKE.

Good luck!


Or just spin-off JamboJet and make it the national carrier with leased assets. Leave the creditors to scavenge KQ. Sometimes painful decisions have to be made.

None of both your dreams are valid

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#11026 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2018 10:51:10 PM
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Meanwhile KQ should support KK by buying fuel from KK. In cash.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#11027 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2018 6:43:13 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Meanwhile KQ should support KK by buying fuel from KK. In cash.

Wewe ngoja full year results kwa amani

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Pesa Nane
#11028 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2018 1:16:25 PM
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obiero wrote:

Tutazidi kufinya vinyangarika wote wanao filisi KQ.. Hapa kazi zitapotea. New York has to happen


@Obiero your Head of State and Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces has stated the US flight shall take off next week (Mashujaa Day Speech)
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obiero
#11029 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2018 1:37:01 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:

Tutazidi kufinya vinyangarika wote wanao filisi KQ.. Hapa kazi zitapotea. New York has to happen


@Obiero your Head of State and Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces has stated the US flight shall take off next week (Mashujaa Day Speech)

I was at the stadium my friend.. Now headed to Kakamega New Referral. The decision to dismiss was made last week on Tuesday when the rumor first floated.. Anyone who doesn't show up for work on the inaugural flight day, without good and just cause, is summarily dismissed. Simple

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obiero
#11030 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2018 6:08:16 PM
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Some inspirational KQ video

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#11031 Posted : Sunday, October 21, 2018 10:21:25 PM
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Richard Quest just jetted in at terminal 1, one of many confirmed celebrity passangers on the inaugural flight to New York.. Media blitz expected via CNN.. Can't wait for the "showers of blessing" at JFK

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Angelica _ann
#11032 Posted : Sunday, October 21, 2018 10:29:18 PM
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China/looking East make more money than these US routes. Wonder why KQ is making this obvious mistaked'oh!
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#11033 Posted : Sunday, October 21, 2018 10:36:36 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
China/looking East make more money than these US routes. Wonder why KQ is making this obvious mistaked'oh!


How can you call a route connecting east africa's financial hub to the worlds financial centre a mistake?
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#11034 Posted : Sunday, October 21, 2018 10:44:11 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
China/looking East make more money than these US routes. Wonder why KQ is making this obvious mistaked'oh!


How can you call a route connecting east africa's financial hub to the worlds financial centre a mistake?


Competition & preferences - will KQ manage. Let us wait & see, time tells all.
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#11035 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2018 8:03:11 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
China/looking East make more money than these US routes. Wonder why KQ is making this obvious mistaked'oh!


How can you call a route connecting east africa's financial hub to the worlds financial centre a mistake?


Competition & preferences - will KQ manage. Let us wait & see, time tells all.

I hope that this will give those without a clue, some perspective

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#11036 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2018 8:20:17 PM
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I hear CNN's Richard Quest will be on the inaugural flight. What better news and boost of confidence?!!

BBI will solve it :)
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#11037 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2018 9:09:36 PM
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2012 wrote:
I hear CNN's Richard Quest will be on the inaugural flight. What better news and boost of confidence?!!

Even Kanye West may be inside. We are working hard to get it to happen

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#11038 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2018 7:44:42 AM
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obiero wrote:
2012 wrote:
I hear CNN's Richard Quest will be on the inaugural flight. What better news and boost of confidence?!!

Even Kanye West may be inside. We are working hard to get it to happen


If Kanye is in so will the queen of slays, Kim. That would be another huge endorsement.

BBI will solve it :)
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#11039 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2018 9:55:21 AM
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2012 wrote:
obiero wrote:
2012 wrote:
I hear CNN's Richard Quest will be on the inaugural flight. What better news and boost of confidence?!!

Even Kanye West may be inside. We are working hard to get it to happen


If Kanye is in so will the queen of slays, Kim. That would be another huge endorsement.



The issue is not the hullabaloo / celebrations about the flight(s)...Rem we used to get dreamliners every Saturday for almost 8 months...How did that turn out.... After the first 2 flights its back to some serious issues about the route profitability....
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#11040 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2018 10:01:12 AM
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maka wrote:
2012 wrote:
obiero wrote:
2012 wrote:
I hear CNN's Richard Quest will be on the inaugural flight. What better news and boost of confidence?!!

Even Kanye West may be inside. We are working hard to get it to happen


If Kanye is in so will the queen of slays, Kim. That would be another huge endorsement.



The issue is not the hullabaloo / celebrations about the flight(s)...Rem we used to get dreamliners every Saturday for almost 8 months...How did that turn out.... After the first 2 flights its back to some serious issues about the route profitability....


Thanks @maka for this. I observed the same hapo juu nikaambiwo am not patriotic. Will the route sustain itself? Only time will tell.
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