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KenolKobil 2018 and beyond
Ebenyo
#161 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:28:27 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:


These means supply will be high and i expect demand to be low due to the huge volume of 79 million shares.A very good opportunity for KK shareholders to increase their holdings at low price.

The market is very bad for this,below 10bob is coming

KES 9 bob by Thursday next week

Very possible


Wacheni propaganda, these shares are held in trust as ESOP and will not be offloaded in the market just like that - like next week. Therefore the 79m shares will not affect the current market dynamics. I know you guys are targeting VVS.


Ohana is going to buy the shares at kshs 10.30 each.You dont expect the market to remain the same.
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VituVingiSana
#162 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:47:28 AM
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@DoubleA - I ignore the kelele ya chura Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
I am waiting for my KK dividend and use it to buy more shares at these prices.
@Obiero touts "capital gains" in KQ but he is losing money.
@Ericsson has lost a bundle on his holdings.

I prefer low prices when I am a net buyer.
The WB patience and discipline is the way to go. With 80% of my investments in PROFITABLE (& dividend paying) firms at attractive prices, I am good to go Applause Applause Applause

My benchmark isn't the what the chura whine about but the 10-yr T-Bond yield + a risk premium.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ebenyo
#163 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:52:47 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@DoubleA - I ignore the kelele ya chura Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
I am waiting for my KK dividend and use it to buy more shares at these prices.


Applause Applause
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VituVingiSana
#164 Posted : Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:57:22 AM
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https://www.cnbc.com/201...n-the-market-tanks.html
[The firm's fundamentals should remain somewhat the same]
During times of stress and uncertainty, Oracle of Omaha Warren Buffett recommends keeping a level head. In response to wild market fluctuations back in 2016, he told CNBC that buy-and-hold is still the best strategy.

"Don't watch the market closely," he advised those worried about their retirement savings at the time. "If they're trying to buy and sell stocks, and worry when they go down a little bit … and think they should maybe sell them when they go up, they're not going to have very good results."
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mlennyma
#165 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 2:45:37 PM
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Huge volume,10% rule
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Ericsson
#166 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 4:41:55 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Huge volume,10% rule


2% of the total issued shares
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Angelica _ann
#167 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 4:51:49 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Huge volume,10% rule


2% of the total issued shares


That was a high level pre-arranged deal. Wait for tomorrow.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
mlennyma
#168 Posted : Thursday, October 18, 2018 5:42:53 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Huge volume,10% rule


2% of the total issued shares


That was a high level pre-arranged deal. Wait for tomorrow.

Supply at 14.70 was 0,any supply at that price was being grabbed ,Kk has a tendency of having hidden buy orders
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Ericsson
#169 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2018 11:52:25 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Huge volume,10% rule


2% of the total issued shares


That was a high level pre-arranged deal. Wait for tomorrow.

Supply at 14.70 was 0,any supply at that price was being grabbed ,Kk has a tendency of having hidden buy orders


Like in today's share price
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#170 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2018 6:18:13 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/08/heres-what-warren-buffett-says-to-do-when-the-market-tanks.html
[The firm's fundamentals should remain somewhat the same]
During times of stress and uncertainty, Oracle of Omaha Warren Buffett recommends keeping a level head. In response to wild market fluctuations back in 2016, he told CNBC that buy-and-hold is still the best strategy.

"Don't watch the market closely," he advised those worried about their retirement savings at the time. "If they're trying to buy and sell stocks, and worry when they go down a little bit … and think they should maybe sell them when they go up, they're not going to have very good results."
Applause Applause Applause
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#171 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2018 3:06:59 PM
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29.5mn shares traded today equivalent to 2% of the issued shares
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#172 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2018 7:06:44 PM
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From 15-ish to 13 and back to 15.30 in a week?
Is Biwott's family selling some of the shares?
Questions! Questions! Questions!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ebenyo
#173 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2018 7:48:31 PM
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mimi sijapata dividends yangu ya kk.Its one week since due date.
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Superprime1
#174 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2018 10:59:04 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
From 15-ish to 13 and back to 15.30 in a week?
Is Biwott's family selling some of the shares?
Questions! Questions! Questions!


184 million shares have changed hands at 15.30 just now; it must be them again.
Ericsson
#175 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:06:22 AM
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Superprime1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
From 15-ish to 13 and back to 15.30 in a week?
Is Biwott's family selling some of the shares?
Questions! Questions! Questions!


184 million shares have changed hands at 15.30 just now; it must be them again.


368mn shares traded equivalent to 25% of the issued share capital traded in less than 2hrs.
CMA the toothless dog quiet
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
mlennyma
#176 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:42:54 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
From 15-ish to 13 and back to 15.30 in a week?
Is Biwott's family selling some of the shares?
Questions! Questions! Questions!


184 million shares have changed hands at 15.30 just now; it must be them again.


368mn shares traded equivalent to 25% of the issued share capital traded in less than 2hrs.
CMA the toothless dog quiet

Is it a crime to sell a big chunk?what do you want CMA to do?
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Ericsson
#177 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2018 11:46:57 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
From 15-ish to 13 and back to 15.30 in a week?
Is Biwott's family selling some of the shares?
Questions! Questions! Questions!


184 million shares have changed hands at 15.30 just now; it must be them again.


368mn shares traded equivalent to 25% of the issued share capital traded in less than 2hrs.
CMA the toothless dog quiet

Is it a crime to sell a big chunk?what do you want CMA to do?


There should be material announcement
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
mlennyma
#178 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:26:10 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
From 15-ish to 13 and back to 15.30 in a week?
Is Biwott's family selling some of the shares?
Questions! Questions! Questions!


184 million shares have changed hands at 15.30 just now; it must be them again.


368mn shares traded equivalent to 25% of the issued share capital traded in less than 2hrs.
CMA the toothless dog quiet

Is it a crime to sell a big chunk?what do you want CMA to do?


There should be material announcement

I need VVS to explain this volume
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Ebenyo
#179 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:41:40 PM
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Superprime1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
From 15-ish to 13 and back to 15.30 in a week?
Is Biwott's family selling some of the shares?
Questions! Questions! Questions!


184 million shares have changed hands at 15.30 just now; it must be them again.


Some people trying to dodge upcoming dillution when the 79 million shares will be in the market end month.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Angelica _ann
#180 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:22:26 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
From 15-ish to 13 and back to 15.30 in a week?
Is Biwott's family selling some of the shares?
Questions! Questions! Questions!


184 million shares have changed hands at 15.30 just now; it must be them again.


Some people trying to dodge upcoming dillution when the 79 million shares will be in the market end month.


Obviously that can't be a reason coz of the volumes. I believe these are specially arranged transfers / purchases between people who know each other. Calculate the amount used so far, those are not small time transactions.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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