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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,505 Location: Uganda
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murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Interesting how kenyans blame everyone else except the real culprit. The bus driver is solely to blame for the accident. Not the police, NTSA, KEBS, michuki, bumps, potholes, darkness, rain etc. If he had driven safely, the bus wouldn't have gone off the road and rolled. Safety starts with you. Accidents do happen for a reason , maybe speeding- drivers fault, faulty car no regulations etc. But should the number of those dead be that many? speed contributes to such numbers by over 70%.at 60-80kph impact would have been lesser.50 souls is a huge number .equivalent of two classes in a school gone is seconds.this should make everyone shiver in anger.I can see leaders falling over themselves sending condolences.we will hear them again in the next bigger one.expect no action. punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:hardwood wrote:Interesting how kenyans blame everyone else except the real culprit. The bus driver is solely to blame for the accident. Not the police, NTSA, KEBS, michuki, bumps, potholes, darkness, rain etc. If he had driven safely, the bus wouldn't have gone off the road and rolled. Safety starts with you. So you think the driver was suicidal? The blame goes to the system because you cannot entrust 1 person with the lives of 70 people just like you cannot put all the trust in a pilot but the airline and system. That's why you don't need to know the CID report of the pilot before you board. Most systems have blind spots, even humans. Would we still blame the system for having a blind spot? Again, what does it mean to blame the system? For me, it seems like 'blaming the system' is an easy way for shifting responsibility and doing nothing. Which system exactly do we want to blame? Why not blame for example, the health care system, or economic system? Or spiritual system? It appears to me that we may be swimming in a world whose words are just sounds with no meaning.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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tycho wrote:2012 wrote:hardwood wrote:Interesting how kenyans blame everyone else except the real culprit. The bus driver is solely to blame for the accident. Not the police, NTSA, KEBS, michuki, bumps, potholes, darkness, rain etc. If he had driven safely, the bus wouldn't have gone off the road and rolled. Safety starts with you. So you think the driver was suicidal? The blame goes to the system because you cannot entrust 1 person with the lives of 70 people just like you cannot put all the trust in a pilot but the airline and system. That's why you don't need to know the CID report of the pilot before you board. Most systems have blind spots, even humans. Would we still blame the system for having a blind spot? Again, what does it mean to blame the system? For me, it seems like 'blaming the system' is an easy way for shifting responsibility and doing nothing. Which system exactly do we want to blame? Why not blame for example, the health care system, or economic system? Or spiritual system? It appears to me that we may be swimming in a world whose words are just sounds with no meaning. System ya ma-ja-mba_zi I care!
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 344
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This might sound harsh but I think we as passangers are also to blame. If you know night time PSV travel has been banned, where are you going at night?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Sansa wrote:This might sound harsh but I think we as passangers are also to blame. If you know night time PSV travel has been banned, where are you going at night? Night travel should be safer. Fewer cars and no hurry.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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thuks wrote:tycho wrote:2012 wrote:hardwood wrote:Interesting how kenyans blame everyone else except the real culprit. The bus driver is solely to blame for the accident. Not the police, NTSA, KEBS, michuki, bumps, potholes, darkness, rain etc. If he had driven safely, the bus wouldn't have gone off the road and rolled. Safety starts with you. So you think the driver was suicidal? The blame goes to the system because you cannot entrust 1 person with the lives of 70 people just like you cannot put all the trust in a pilot but the airline and system. That's why you don't need to know the CID report of the pilot before you board. Most systems have blind spots, even humans. Would we still blame the system for having a blind spot? Again, what does it mean to blame the system? For me, it seems like 'blaming the system' is an easy way for shifting responsibility and doing nothing. Which system exactly do we want to blame? Why not blame for example, the health care system, or economic system? Or spiritual system? It appears to me that we may be swimming in a world whose words are just sounds with no meaning. System ya ma-ja-mba_zi Systems are created to protect us all, be it financial, mechanical or otherwise. It's easier to fix the systems than the human. This time the system failed and placed all the powers in the human's hand. We don't know if he was speeding or he he was overworked and fell asleep behind the wheel or an undetected mechanical fault caused it or the owner's greed... To me, whichever way, the system failed.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Interesting how kenyans blame everyone else except the real culprit. The bus driver is solely to blame for the accident. Not the police, NTSA, KEBS, michuki, bumps, potholes, darkness, rain etc. If he had driven safely, the bus wouldn't have gone off the road and rolled. Safety starts with you. Accidents do happen for a reason , maybe speeding- drivers fault, faulty car no regulations etc. But should the number of those dead be that many? speed contributes to such numbers by over 70%.at 60-80kph impact would have been lesser.50 souls is a huge number .equivalent of two classes in a school gone is seconds.this should make everyone shiver in anger.I can see leaders falling over themselves sending condolences.we will hear them again in the next bigger one.expect no action. Are there crash tests performed by the assemblies building buses we have in Kenya? What is the standard? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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murchr wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Interesting how kenyans blame everyone else except the real culprit. The bus driver is solely to blame for the accident. Not the police, NTSA, KEBS, michuki, bumps, potholes, darkness, rain etc. If he had driven safely, the bus wouldn't have gone off the road and rolled. Safety starts with you. Accidents do happen for a reason , maybe speeding- drivers fault, faulty car no regulations etc. But should the number of those dead be that many? speed contributes to such numbers by over 70%.at 60-80kph impact would have been lesser.50 souls is a huge number .equivalent of two classes in a school gone is seconds.this should make everyone shiver in anger.I can see leaders falling over themselves sending condolences.we will hear them again in the next bigger one.expect no action. Are there crash tests performed by the assemblies building buses we have in Kenya? What is the standard? Nganya standards. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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The transport CS could have resigned by now. Trump’s shit hole country. work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,936
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Tokyo wrote:The transport CS could have resigned by now. Trump’s shit hole country. He has not even spoken about the tragedy. Condolences & with you in prayer & pey move on to the next accident slaughter. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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