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Rank: Member Joined: 8/18/2018 Posts: 121
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3 young lives are totally messed up for good...6 very sad parents..1 child might grow up with no Mom...A baby may be born in prison...Very unfortunate state of affairs... Ce n’est pas si grave...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Is a murder charge really sustainable for Jacque Maribe. Wouldn't a lesser charge be easier to prove, I hope the DPP has sufficient proof although I will be very surprised if he does, as I would be shocked if the lady could have read news of the death of Monica with a straight face if she was involved. doesn't really matter. she can be charged with murder and after the hearing the judge convicts for a lesser offence of accessory. disregard those theories of 'if she is not convicted of murder she gets away with it.' same way jowi could be charged with murder and gets convicted of manslaughter instead - remember the dola guy? Dola got Manslaughter because his lawyer proved that he did not plan to kill his wife (malice aforethought; no intent), the prosecutor was not able to show any prove of a plan or intent to kill. He happened to act (snap) after a disagreement. He presented himself to police Jowi here stole someone's ID and used it to gain entry into her premise (that may be used to show intent to kill) my point is he was charged with murder but convicted of manslaughter. the court did not acquit him coz murder wasn't proven but instead downgraded it to manslaughter. and my comment was about jackie maribe btw.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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maka wrote:murchr wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Is a murder charge really sustainable for Jacque Maribe. Wouldn't a lesser charge be easier to prove, I hope the DPP has sufficient proof although I will be very surprised if he does, as I would be shocked if the lady could have read news of the death of Monica with a straight face if she was involved. doesn't really matter. she can be charged with murder and after the hearing the judge convicts for a lesser offence of accessory. disregard those theories of 'if she is not convicted of murder she gets away with it.' same way jowi could be charged with murder and gets convicted of manslaughter instead - remember the dola guy? Dola got Manslaughter because his lawyer proved that he did not plan to kill his wife (malice aforethought; no intent), the prosecutor was not able to show any prove of a plan or intent to kill. He happened to act (snap) after a disagreement. He presented himself to police Jowi here stole someone's ID and used it to gain entry into her premise (that may be used to show intent to kill) Plus kanzu/cap, plus burn it up, unga plaster, plus ceiling tingz, plus, plus plus plus. may be the id, kanzu can also be intent to cheat on the fiance, if they can show he was having an affair then the disguise can be explained, especially considering he was engaged to a renown figure, the case might have more twists once it commences, may be the guy is innocent who knows. Quite true, there will be twists and turns but if Ombeta tries to bring the disguise theory he might introduce the line of thinking that he killed her with the intention of concealing that affair.....and that will clearly define murder. Ombeta never does a case to conclusion... you tell them  at least obado wisened up and only uses him for pr.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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maka wrote:murchr wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Is a murder charge really sustainable for Jacque Maribe. Wouldn't a lesser charge be easier to prove, I hope the DPP has sufficient proof although I will be very surprised if he does, as I would be shocked if the lady could have read news of the death of Monica with a straight face if she was involved. doesn't really matter. she can be charged with murder and after the hearing the judge convicts for a lesser offence of accessory. disregard those theories of 'if she is not convicted of murder she gets away with it.' same way jowi could be charged with murder and gets convicted of manslaughter instead - remember the dola guy? Dola got Manslaughter because his lawyer proved that he did not plan to kill his wife (malice aforethought; no intent), the prosecutor was not able to show any prove of a plan or intent to kill. He happened to act (snap) after a disagreement. He presented himself to police Jowi here stole someone's ID and used it to gain entry into her premise (that may be used to show intent to kill) Plus kanzu/cap, plus burn it up, unga plaster, plus ceiling tingz, plus, plus plus plus. may be the id, kanzu can also be intent to cheat on the fiance, if they can show he was having an affair then the disguise can be explained, especially considering he was engaged to a renown figure, the case might have more twists once it commences, may be the guy is innocent who knows. Quite true, there will be twists and turns but if Ombeta tries to bring the disguise theory he might introduce the line of thinking that he killed her with the intention of concealing that affair.....and that will clearly define murder. Ombeta never does a case to conclusion... We have an example of Moses Dola. Katitu...rem him? You are turning out to be a mythologist @maka where did you drop the wakili hat? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Is a murder charge really sustainable for Jacque Maribe. Wouldn't a lesser charge be easier to prove, I hope the DPP has sufficient proof although I will be very surprised if he does, as I would be shocked if the lady could have read news of the death of Monica with a straight face if she was involved. doesn't really matter. she can be charged with murder and after the hearing the judge convicts for a lesser offence of accessory. disregard those theories of 'if she is not convicted of murder she gets away with it.' same way jowi could be charged with murder and gets convicted of manslaughter instead - remember the dola guy? Dola got Manslaughter because his lawyer proved that he did not plan to kill his wife (malice aforethought; no intent), the prosecutor was not able to show any prove of a plan or intent to kill. He happened to act (snap) after a disagreement. He presented himself to police Jowi here stole someone's ID and used it to gain entry into her premise (that may be used to show intent to kill) my point is he was charged with murder but convicted of manslaughter. the court did not acquit him coz murder wasn't proven but instead downgraded it to manslaughter. and my comment was about jackie maribe btw. Ref to post 343 (d) an intention by the act or omission to facilitate the flight or escape from custody of any person who has committed or attempted to commit a felony "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Is a murder charge really sustainable for Jacque Maribe. Wouldn't a lesser charge be easier to prove, I hope the DPP has sufficient proof although I will be very surprised if he does, as I would be shocked if the lady could have read news of the death of Monica with a straight face if she was involved. doesn't really matter. she can be charged with murder and after the hearing the judge convicts for a lesser offence of accessory. disregard those theories of 'if she is not convicted of murder she gets away with it.' same way jowi could be charged with murder and gets convicted of manslaughter instead - remember the dola guy? Dola got Manslaughter because his lawyer proved that he did not plan to kill his wife (malice aforethought; no intent), the prosecutor was not able to show any prove of a plan or intent to kill. He happened to act (snap) after a disagreement. He presented himself to police Jowi here stole someone's ID and used it to gain entry into her premise (that may be used to show intent to kill) my point is he was charged with murder but convicted of manslaughter. the court did not acquit him coz murder wasn't proven but instead downgraded it to manslaughter. and my comment was about jackie maribe btw. Ref to post 343 (d) an intention by the act or omission to facilitate the flight or escape from custody of any person who has committed or attempted to commit a felony section 206 (d) provides for one of the circumstances that constitute malice aforethought and not murder. malice aforethought is just another prerequisite of murder and not the only one. it does not oust mens rea and actus reus.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,227 Location: nairobi
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mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Is a murder charge really sustainable for Jacque Maribe. Wouldn't a lesser charge be easier to prove, I hope the DPP has sufficient proof although I will be very surprised if he does, as I would be shocked if the lady could have read news of the death of Monica with a straight face if she was involved. doesn't really matter. she can be charged with murder and after the hearing the judge convicts for a lesser offence of accessory. disregard those theories of 'if she is not convicted of murder she gets away with it.' same way jowi could be charged with murder and gets convicted of manslaughter instead - remember the dola guy? Dola got Manslaughter because his lawyer proved that he did not plan to kill his wife (malice aforethought; no intent), the prosecutor was not able to show any prove of a plan or intent to kill. He happened to act (snap) after a disagreement. He presented himself to police Jowi here stole someone's ID and used it to gain entry into her premise (that may be used to show intent to kill) my point is he was charged with murder but convicted of manslaughter. the court did not acquit him coz murder wasn't proven but instead downgraded it to manslaughter. and my comment was about jackie maribe btw. Ref to post 343 (d) an intention by the act or omission to facilitate the flight or escape from custody of any person who has committed or attempted to commit a felony section 206 (d) provides for one of the circumstances that constitute malice aforethought and not murder. malice aforethought is just another prerequisite of murder and not the only one. it does not oust mens rea and actus reus. Irungu goes in for the murder, Maribe gets a slap on the wrist. We discussed this at the spot last night. On Monday Maribe gets bail 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/4/2008 Posts: 2,849 Location: Rupi
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Jowie and Jacque will be nailed down badly. In the initial investigations, they threatened DCI who were taking down their statements, that they would loose their jobs. The cops had to wait for Kinoti to return from Germany to give instructions for them to proceed. They felt connected to who's who and untouchable. I wish Jacque cooperated from the beginning. Its hard small for her now. Jowie can Rot in hell Lord, thank you!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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obiero wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:murchr wrote:mkenyan wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Is a murder charge really sustainable for Jacque Maribe. Wouldn't a lesser charge be easier to prove, I hope the DPP has sufficient proof although I will be very surprised if he does, as I would be shocked if the lady could have read news of the death of Monica with a straight face if she was involved. doesn't really matter. she can be charged with murder and after the hearing the judge convicts for a lesser offence of accessory. disregard those theories of 'if she is not convicted of murder she gets away with it.' same way jowi could be charged with murder and gets convicted of manslaughter instead - remember the dola guy? Dola got Manslaughter because his lawyer proved that he did not plan to kill his wife (malice aforethought; no intent), the prosecutor was not able to show any prove of a plan or intent to kill. He happened to act (snap) after a disagreement. He presented himself to police Jowi here stole someone's ID and used it to gain entry into her premise (that may be used to show intent to kill) my point is he was charged with murder but convicted of manslaughter. the court did not acquit him coz murder wasn't proven but instead downgraded it to manslaughter. and my comment was about jackie maribe btw. Ref to post 343 (d) an intention by the act or omission to facilitate the flight or escape from custody of any person who has committed or attempted to commit a felony section 206 (d) provides for one of the circumstances that constitute malice aforethought and not murder. malice aforethought is just another prerequisite of murder and not the only one. it does not oust mens rea and actus reus. Irungu goes in for the murder, Maribe gets a slap on the wrist. We discussed this at the spot last night. On Monday Maribe gets bail she would most likely get bail. there is no compelling reason to deny her bail. and her lawyer will among other reasons play the mother of a 3 year old waiting for her line.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/19/2010 Posts: 1,308 Location: nairobi metropolitan
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Lolest! wrote:MugundaMan wrote:A father's love wapi? Where was he when; 1. She was all over the city engaging in partying, ulevi na ulsayqueeni with Jowie and even before Jowie. This is a lady who was clearly painting the town red, getting dead drunk frequently and being picked up at 3 am at tufunny funny clubs where we know nothing good happens. A real father who loves his daughter would not have raised her to live such a hedonistic and immoral lifestyle. It is like the drunkard who knows that their ulevi is bad for their health and safety, but stubbornly keeps drinking for 40 years thinking they have no problem, then one day they get a pain in their stomach and in hosi the doctor tells them they have pancreatic cancer caused by drinking and have a year to live at most! No matter how many tears they shed on themselves at that point hizi ni shida za kujiletea. Where was the father to tell her her lifestyle would bring trouble to her? Was he also in the bar passing out from ulevi so didn't care? This was a terrible father indeed! 2. Where was he when she was busy getting a baby out of wedlock fuaaaa bila mpango? Where was his love? It could have stepped in at this point and told her "Jacque, look, your life is out of control. Close your legs, do the right thing...at the minimum use protection jameni!" What kind of father raised a girl to be like this? Where was the love? 3. Where was he when she was dating all these thugs, married men or no job no income types? Mara oo she is dating this person, then ooo she is dating some politican, then oooo now the jobless Jowie. Was he not concerned about her life to ask the tough questions about what strange characters she was dating? With the scandals all over the news even before Jowie.. where was he? Oh cry me a river baba Maribe! Cry mpaka ujaze ndoo! You were not a loving father at all if you at no point through all these years of turmoil intervened to rescue your baby girl Jacque from herself! You want to tell us that kids always follow parents' instructions? Did you or do you always follow what your parent wants you to do or not to do? Hats off Mr Marine! I would stand with my child even if he/she was a Jowir Nothing saddens me more than when parents keep on providing excuses for their grown up wayward children or a spouse providing excuses for the crimes of their partners in the name of love Love my foot. ..I thought love was kindness not crime If your children or spouse commit petty crimes, why not report them to authorities. .otherwise their petty crimes soon graduate to hardcore crimes in their believe that they are always protected/covered In no time God forbid,and more often than not, they turn on their protectors and so we see headlines of spouses killings each other, children killing their parents and then we wonder where is the world heading to. .. You shall choose how you bring up your children. .. You shall choose who is going to be your partners. .. You shall choose whether to continue livin with your current partners. . Remember whatsoever is your decision, You must lay on the bed you chose. .No excuses please. . Democracy does not belong to the dead
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