You want to tell us that kids always follow parents' instructions? Did you or do you always follow what your parent wants you to do or not to do?

Hats off Mr Marine! I would stand with my child even if he/she was a Jowir

Oh yes! And if I didn't my hide was on the line for a thorough whipping! That is why I did not end up a Jowie living off women and slitting throats in bathtubs!




That is where we respectfully differ. The moment I saw any signs of ukora in Jowie as a toddler, as a father, I would not spare the rod on him, and if it got worse in his teenage years, I would PERSONALLY frogmarch him to the police/chief/authorities whenever he committed a petty crime, so that he learned the lesson and the errant behavior ceased. If his papa did this many years ago, Jowie would not end up a scammer claiming his own dad was dead and going around with guns massacring people! Think of the gang problems in different countries.

Studies have shown the prime cause of these otherwise innocent kids growing up to be jail bound hardcore thugs is because of a breakdown of the family unit and the lack of ethical and moral direction and control by the parents(or by whatever parent is left in a single family situation). This is the difference that ends up making one child a murderous thug and the other who grew up in the house next to them in the same bad environment a star student who makes something of themselves. Let the father cry till the cows come home!

Is a murder charge really sustainable for Jacque Maribe. Wouldn't a lesser charge be easier to prove, I hope the DPP has sufficient proof although I will be very surprised if he does, as I would be shocked if the lady could have read news of the death of Monica with a straight face if she was involved.

Your self righteous posts paint with too broad a brush

There are many factors affecting how people turn out as adults. Parenting is just one of them. More often than not, the child you knew up to 13 is different from the 16 year old, is different from the 20 yr old and the 28 year old

I believe Jowie boy could have been a good boy as his Nakuru former neighbours said. That's how he was brought up. A good boy. But he changed, a lot of people do. Just like some bad boys change to good.

Even kids brought up under the same set of rules don't always end up the same as in your generalization! You find brother mlevi with a teetotaler from the same set of parents! Some, it's nature(as opposed to nurture)

Why do people always assume nurture (environment, mtaa, schooling, how strict parents were) is everything? People are born with some good and/or bad traits!

This cultural and moral relativism crap is what breeds the Jowie's of this world!
Pavlov long disproved the hopeless myth that nurture cannot convert any person (or dog) into a model citizen (or something more sinister) if proper conditioning from a young age is applied. Behavioral scientists like John Broadus Watson, standing on Pavlovs shoulders once said:

“Give me a dozen healthy infants, well-formed, and my own specified world to bring them up in and I’ll guarantee to take any one at random and train him to become any type of specialist I might select—doctor, lawyer, artist, merchant-chief and, yes, even beggar-man and thief, regardless of his talents, penchants, tendencies, abilities, vocations, and race of his ancestors. (1930)"

What more do you people want to be told jameni?. Silly lies that you cannot control and raise your kids to be upright people in society?

Why do you think many young teenagers in Nairobi, Hong Kong and even crazy Papua New Guinea are all wearing sagging jeans and a few years back a mohawk hairstyle. Very sophisticated classical conditioning thanks to Hellywierd cultural imperialism crafted in labs like Rand Corporation. The way you train/grow a child up is the way they will be. The fact that one child grows up to be a thief and the other a doctor too is directly attributable to the attention, nurturing and moulding (or lack thereof) that you paid to each individual child!

When the Bible tells you to raise a child a certain way and they will not depart from it in their later years it is true. But of course all you moral relativists of today disagree because even in your own homes you are steeped in ulevi so the child cannot take you seriously when you tell them to stop drinking! Then you later cry that your son/daughter has Jowie'd someone! Cry me a river!

Hope you don't use words like crap while your kids are listening.

There's only so much as a parent you can do. Yes, be strict, enforce rules etc but your being Christian today isn't an assurance that tomorrow they'll not go into atheism, Islam, or join those traditionalists praying facing mountains and doing animal sacrifices

There is no assurance. Even in scripture, Job kept praying for his children in case while in their parties they sinned against God

Have you read Nakuru people's testimonies about Jowie? They all say he was a fine young man. Was in the choir even. A young man with a good name in an urban area. Somewhere stuff changed. Maybe the caged nature came out once he got a job and moved out or he just changed.

Na sikunywangi.

Mugundaman is right. There is a certain air of entitlement amongst the youth in Kenya. For whatever reason, they think that they can get away with murder. Coz daddy will come running.

Listen, this is Maribe's bed and she'd better get used to laying on it.

When someone shoots himself with a gun, normal people would report the matter to the police. Not running to 3 hospitals in the dead of the night, then pretending nothing ever happened.

Unless, this is something that is common to these fellas. Where they share out guns and shoot each other at night.

I don't believe the DPP is mad. They may have tried to convince her to sell out her gashungwa. Then she refused until after more evidence from the maid was gathered. At which point the entitled one was useless to them.

Ili iwe funzo...Stop protecting criminals. Maybe coz of working with sooo many politicians, that's a concept she has yet to understand.

But by next week Friday when she will be denied bail, she will understand.

A father's love wapi?

Where was he when;

1. She was all over the city engaging in partying, ulevi na ulsayqueeni with Jowie and even before Jowie. This is a lady who was clearly painting the town red, getting dead drunk frequently and being picked up at 3 am at tufunny funny clubs where we know nothing good happens. A real father who loves his daughter would not have raised her to live such a hedonistic and immoral lifestyle. It is like the drunkard who knows that their ulevi is bad for their health and safety, but stubbornly keeps drinking for 40 years thinking they have no problem, then one day they get a pain in their stomach and in hosi the doctor tells them they have pancreatic cancer caused by drinking and have a year to live at most! No matter how many tears they shed on themselves at that point hizi ni shida za kujiletea. Where was the father to tell her her lifestyle would bring trouble to her? Was he also in the bar passing out from ulevi so didn't care? This was a terrible father indeed!

2. Where was he when she was busy getting a baby out of wedlock fuaaaa bila mpango? Where was his love? It could have stepped in at this point and told her "Jacque, look, your life is out of control. Close your legs, do the right thing...at the minimum use protection jameni!" What kind of father raised a girl to be like this? Where was the love?


3. Where was he when she was dating all these thugs, married men or no job no income types? Mara oo she is dating this person, then ooo she is dating some politican, then oooo now the jobless Jowie. Was he not concerned about her life to ask the tough questions about what strange characters she was dating? With the scandals all over the news even before Jowie..where was he?

Oh cry me a river baba Maribe! Cry mpaka ujaze ndoo! You were not a loving father at all if you at no point through all these years of turmoil intervened to rescue your baby girl Jacque from herself!

Plus kanzu/cap, plus burn it up, unga plaster, plus ceiling tingz, plus, plus plus plus.

Quite true, there will be twists and turns but if Ombeta tries to bring the disguise theory he might introduce the line of thinking that he killed her with the intention of concealing that affair.....and that will clearly define murder.