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MugundaMan
#1391 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 7:00:05 PM
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Neveready was less than 2% of my modest assets and the only asset in the casino (NSE). Thanks on the wishes on the mugundas. I have never met a mugunda that has not paid me handsomely over time! Dancing
sparkly
#1392 Posted: : Monday, October 08, 2018 8:50:39 AM
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MugundaMan wrote:
Neveready was less than 2% of my modest assets and the only asset in the casino (NSE). Thanks on the wishes on the mugundas. I have never met a mugunda that has not paid me handsomely over time! Dancing


Meaning you sold?
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MugundaMan
#1393 Posted : Monday, October 08, 2018 9:33:38 AM
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sparkly wrote:
MugundaMan wrote:
Neveready was less than 2% of my modest assets and the only asset in the casino (NSE). Thanks on the wishes on the mugundas. I have never met a mugunda that has not paid me handsomely over time! Dancing


Meaning you sold?


Why are you worried what I did or did not do?Laughing out loudly
Discretion is the better part of valour and only a fool does not change his mind when the situation becomes fluid. With all these crazy bargains even of blue chips, it would be crazy of me not to move the cash to better quality bargains (ICDC specifically).
Angelica _ann
#1394 Posted : Monday, October 08, 2018 9:40:36 AM
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MugundaMan wrote:
sparkly wrote:
MugundaMan wrote:
Neveready was less than 2% of my modest assets and the only asset in the casino (NSE). Thanks on the wishes on the mugundas. I have never met a mugunda that has not paid me handsomely over time! Dancing


Meaning you sold?


Why are you worried what I did or did not do?Laughing out loudly
Discretion is the better part of valour and only a fool does not change his mind when the situation becomes fluid. With all these crazy bargains even of blue chips, it would be crazy of me not to move the cash to better quality bargains (ICDC specifically).


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly quietly done. You must have taken a terrible hit , pole. ICDC, you are again in the negative smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
rwitre
#1395 Posted : Monday, October 08, 2018 9:42:45 AM
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MugundaMan wrote:
Neveready was less than 2% of my modest assets and the only asset in the casino (NSE). Thanks on the wishes on the mugundas. I have never met a mugunda that has not paid me handsomely over time! Dancing


Apples to oranges. Yes, land will preserve wealth and gradually grow it. It's a solid investment.

Stocks carry more risk, but rate of capital appreciation is higher. i.e., it's easier to make >100% gains through stocks over time than real estate. But you can also lose everything.

If I want to turn $1000 into $100,000, best believe I'll go into stock trading, instead of buying a plot and waiting for a decade for the land prices to increase.

"If the shoe fits, wear it"
MugundaMan
#1396 Posted : Monday, October 08, 2018 9:45:21 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly quietly done. You must have taken a terrible hit , pole. ICDC, you are again in the negative smile


Look who is talking Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
And Im sure for you the investment in HAL that you are hanging on to for dear life as it goes straight down like a rock is way more than 2% of assets Laughing out loudly
I took a hit indeed but it was gambling monee to begin with. Casino sio mjezo. At least with ICDC the profits are real and dividends flow yearly without delay. It is also selling at crazy levels below book value so it is a no brainer for me. Even then I do not trust the casino hence the 2% max exposure at any time!
MugundaMan
#1397 Posted : Monday, October 08, 2018 9:49:18 AM
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rwitre wrote:
MugundaMan wrote:
Neveready was less than 2% of my modest assets and the only asset in the casino (NSE). Thanks on the wishes on the mugundas. I have never met a mugunda that has not paid me handsomely over time! Dancing


Apples to oranges. Yes, land will preserve wealth and gradually grow it. It's a solid investment.

Stocks carry more risk, but rate of capital appreciation is higher. i.e., it's easier to make >100% gains through stocks over time than real estate. But you can also lose everything.

If I want to turn $1000 into $100,000, best believe I'll go into stock trading, instead of buying a plot and waiting for a decade for the land prices to increase.

"If the shoe fits, wear it"


Big fallacy my broda. Show us how you made a 100% return on your overall portfolio in one year and then we can talk. And please do not tell us you invested 10k on a penny stock and made 20k after 5 years and are very happy about it. Laughing out loudly
rwitre
#1398 Posted : Monday, October 08, 2018 11:03:56 AM
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MugundaMan wrote:
rwitre wrote:
MugundaMan wrote:
Neveready was less than 2% of my modest assets and the only asset in the casino (NSE). Thanks on the wishes on the mugundas. I have never met a mugunda that has not paid me handsomely over time! Dancing


Apples to oranges. Yes, land will preserve wealth and gradually grow it. It's a solid investment.

Stocks carry more risk, but rate of capital appreciation is higher. i.e., it's easier to make >100% gains through stocks over time than real estate. But you can also lose everything.

If I want to turn $1000 into $100,000, best believe I'll go into stock trading, instead of buying a plot and waiting for a decade for the land prices to increase.

"If the shoe fits, wear it"


Big fallacy my broda. Show us how you made a 100% return on your overall portfolio in one year and then we can talk. And please do not tell us you invested 10k on a penny stock and made 20k after 5 years and are very happy about it. Laughing out loudly


Look at it in terms of probability. Ranked with increasing levels of risk:

1. Land: Safe haven. Everyone invested in real estate sees value gains. Politicians, civil servants, kings, paupers, hard-workers and those waiting to inherit from them- as long as your claim to the land is valid, gains are certain.

2. Unit trusts, MMF, T-Bills and Bonds- Sit pretty and wait for the interest cheques to roll in. Steady and predictable growth, unless the government screws the economy.

3. Stocks: Riskier. But if you pick a valuable firm, that meets shareholder needs and consumer demands at the same time- and increase your stake significantly, you get higher gains. cc. long-term gains like for those who got into Safaricom at Sh 2. or fast ones like the famous Black Wednesday where a brave bet by George soros made $1 billion usd in short selling. Or you could pick a monkey and see if it will jump like Orchards did, and hope it doesn't trap your capital like ARM.

4. Crypto: Requires more nerves of steel. However, has made more common folk millionaires in the past half-decade compared to all the rest. Conversely, it has also made multiple more bankrupt.

5. Gambling: (casinos to sport betting) Chances are very low. Can make you broke very fast, but when you get the right combination, you hit the jackpot, like one Cosmas Korir who no has to share 42 million from his winnings with GoK as taxes

6. The lottery: You have a better chance of being hit by lightning than winning the lottery- like the Powerball, where odds are 1 in 292,201,338. But tell that to the 42-year-old Nandlall Mangal who pocketed $245.6 million

My point is: there are success stories across the scope. The higher the level of risk, the fewer the number of people who've actually succeeded. And vice-versa- the lower the risk, the easier you get to sleep at night.

It comes down to the individual: How fast do you want your gains? What are you willing to put on the line? Some are comfortable with slow but sure gains. Others take more chances. Fortune favours the bold.

Going back to my earlier position. When challenged to multiply $1000 into $100000, my choice could be to get into stocks. Would I succeed? Maybe, maybe not. Regardless, that's as much as my risk-tolerance will allow me.
MugundaMan
#1399 Posted : Monday, October 08, 2018 11:12:48 AM
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rwitre wrote:


3. Stocks: Riskier. But if you pick a valuable firm, that meets shareholder needs and consumer demands at the same time- and increase your stake significantly, you get higher gains. cc. long-term gains like for those who got into Safaricom at Sh 2. or fast ones like the famous Black Wednesday where a brave bet by George soros made $1 billion usd in short selling. Or you could pick a monkey and see if it will jump like Orchards did, and hope it doesn't trap your capital like ARM.


Laughing out loudly

There is a world of a difference between gangsta capitalist Soros using insider information to make a killing in the well developed global markets and putting hard earned money on a monkey in our local casino in which most monkeys do not even have the trading volume within which to park a decent amount of cash. Getting out of EVRD for example was hell my broda, on some days I was only able to move 3,000 shares because there was zero buy orders on the demand side for the rest of the day! And the book cooking here is rampant even among the blue chips. As for Safcon, usinichekeshe. Have you compared with those who got into land in dustbowl at the same time of the Safcon IPO? They perhaps did 10 times better!
Angelica _ann
#1400 Posted : Monday, October 08, 2018 11:25:52 AM
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rwitre wrote:


5. Gambling: (casinos to sport betting) Chances are very low. Can make you broke very fast, but when you get the right combination, you hit the jackpot, like one Cosmas Korir who no has to share 42 million from his winnings with GoK as taxes.



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In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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