But the philosopher (and perhaps the theist) will argue that all your empirical assumptions and presuppositions used to arrive at a characterization of wind are hopelessly flawed from the jump. For example, how will you measure the winds speed unless you (or society) has arbitrarily determined what the measurement unit of speed is? Which would logically lead to yet another arbitrary determination of more basic units of measurement such as a metre for example. But a metre looks like a kilometre from the perspective of an ant, and like a millimeter when viewed from the vantage point of a drone flying high above the ground, so there is a dogmatic arrogance in the scientific religion in decreeing (without proof ) the vantage point from which a metre becomes a metre!




The interesting thing about most non-theists is that they do not see the log in their eyes as they point out the speck in the theists' eye (pun fully intended ) Like in this case, you accept that they do not need to see wind to know it is there, yet you are flabbergasted when the Christian tells you they do not need to see Jesus in the flesh to believe He is Lord and Saviour. How did you make the leap from not seeing wind with your eyes but knowing it exists? Of course by your own religious dogmas on scientific measurement right? Same thing for the Christian; for him, the heavens declare the handiwork of God, day by day, as you have already agreed - they evince the transcendent which amazes. It is plain as day to him that God created the cosmos, because God has progressively revealed himself to us from the beginning of time, and according to the Christian world view that I ascribe to, the evidence of his existence is so glaring that no human being has an excuse to deny Him. Look at a rainbow for example. The non-theist admires its beauty but denies that it was created by a divine being, yet cannot tell us who created it! And often mistakes describing it and its elements to explaining who made it. A better argument on your part would be to determine which God created all that we see, rather than sticking to dogmatic scientific measures of dubious origin as the only yardstick the non-theist approves of.




Science IS a religion, complete with popes and preachers! In the immeasurable arrogance of the scientist, he arbitrarily creates a set of rules of inquiry, measurement and theory formulation (based, as I said earlier, on hopelessly flawed assumptions) that he then declares as fatwa to be obeyed by all! That is the WORST sort of religion. Who says the mighty God of the universe is explainable by feeble and flawed tools of science? When we theists give you OUR sets of rules to arrive at a knowledge of God, you arrogantly reject them!





First of all I am very glad that you actually read the Holy book , so clearly it is of some value even to the non-theist. The claims in the Bible above are precisely the "proof" of the divinity of the Christian God. So were the miracles, which contrary to your assertions, WERE documented in the extra-biblical record, but of course not in the empirical detail the non-theist craves! How do we make that leap? Well we trust in God's revealed Word (both the flesh that appeared and the book) which you have of course rejected because it does not conform to the dictates of your religion of Science.


ha ha ha ha ha ha! Excuse me for laughing here. You are in the extreme minority of scholars who actually disputes the historicity of Jesus! Even majority of your non-theist friends would not cast their lot with you on this. As I said earlier, a better argument would be to evaluate whether he was God or man. That he walked the earth is virtually irrefutable.



This is a complete fallacy. WHERE and HOW do the Gospels contradict each other. Please give us a few CONCRETE EXAMPLES of this so that we can take you seriously on this point. On Moses Vs Alexander; again, the non-theist always reverts to his arrogant cocoon of demanding proof on his own terms using his own bizarre sets of rules. Think of a bustling market in a moment in time. You and I may arrive at that market as historians to document what is going on in the market at the time. Your report may be an elaborate exposition on what fruits, vegetables and perhaps sundry species of rats that you find scampering around the market. Mine may involve a 30 page narrative on the 90 year old vendor I found at the first stall in the marker; his life history and recollections of how the market has changed over the years and so on. What makes your narrative superior to mine about the exact same market at the exact same point in history. No non-theist for example has come out to dispute the existence, accurately depicted in terms of their historical dates of relevance, of figures like the Pontius Pilate you mention, as recorded in the Biblical historical record! In fact a lot of historians in the recent past, have found the Bible to be invaluable in piecing together missing links on empires past (including the Persian empire you mention below) that the secular historical record had no clue about for thousands of years!




The presence of a knockoff does not invalidate the authenticity of the authentic. Judaism for example, is antithetical to Christianity after the era of Christ, yet they claim to worship the same God. Islam too borrows heavily from the pre-Christian era. Some cultures believe an elephant is their god - that is their right. The Christian God says I am the one true God and there is none above me. I have showed you my Son - clothed in signs, deeds, wisdom and wonders the world has never seen to this day - whom you killed, yet in that death He will save you if only you believe in Him.

Belief is a choice. You can reject Him on your own terms or accept that you are sinful and need Him as Lord for Him to reconcile you with God eternally. Whose fault is it then if you wilfully reject Him and find out the hard way that everything you read in that Bible you choose to reject is true? Beyond the coffin, measuring the intensity, speed, characterization and dew point of flames in Hades in stubborn persistence at disproving God for eternity might not be a very fun recourse Shalom

Are you sure?
He has said it over and over and over again in His Word. Should I dish out the proof?

Use your brain too and stop following that Arab conman Muhammad!!
John 10

John 20

Without God, life has no meaning.

That's my simple position.

You cannot explain even one thing in this world otherwise.

My life has plenty of meaning and I don’t have a god in it. Life is what you make it, you can decide to live a meaningless life with or without god and vice versa.