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hardwood wrote:Dr. Bosire has shed light on the issue. https://www.standardmedi...wani-maternity-hospital
Quote:Facts about Pumwani maternity hospital
Pumwani has no morgue. Never has. All bodies of deceased mothers, newborns and stillbirths are collected by the city mortuary morticians in the morning. Before, this happened daily, nowadays it happens Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.
For little angels who pass on before birth or in the new born units due to complications, the families have the option of taking them to bury or they can give them up and the hospital then has them buried. This happens in both public and private sector, permissible
There are no body bags to keep the deceased in before transfer to the morgue. Hospital staff have to make do with what's available. Carton boxes and plastic disposal bags are the most available temporary storage for these little angels.
Every deceased person, irrespective of age, is registered in the death notification register provided by the registrar of persons (births and deaths). Each of these little ones is moved to city mortuary with an attached notification. They are not just statistics.
Pumwani has accounted for 6 deaths in the period between Friday 14th to Sunday 16th. Only 6 deaths are listed. This number is against 156 deliveries conducted in the said period. Being a referral hospital receiving complicated cases, this is not uncommon.
But did Sonko bother to find out this? Nope. He chose to call it sinister because he did not understand it. He proceeded to suspend the team without investigation. So where did the extra 6 bodies come from? BTW the so called Dr. Bosire should know that the nurses gave enough information before he left. ODPP is on the case, we'll know this sooner "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,937
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murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Dr. Bosire has shed light on the issue. https://www.standardmedi...wani-maternity-hospital
Quote:Facts about Pumwani maternity hospital
Pumwani has no morgue. Never has. All bodies of deceased mothers, newborns and stillbirths are collected by the city mortuary morticians in the morning. Before, this happened daily, nowadays it happens Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.
For little angels who pass on before birth or in the new born units due to complications, the families have the option of taking them to bury or they can give them up and the hospital then has them buried. This happens in both public and private sector, permissible
There are no body bags to keep the deceased in before transfer to the morgue. Hospital staff have to make do with what's available. Carton boxes and plastic disposal bags are the most available temporary storage for these little angels.
Every deceased person, irrespective of age, is registered in the death notification register provided by the registrar of persons (births and deaths). Each of these little ones is moved to city mortuary with an attached notification. They are not just statistics.
Pumwani has accounted for 6 deaths in the period between Friday 14th to Sunday 16th. Only 6 deaths are listed. This number is against 156 deliveries conducted in the said period. Being a referral hospital receiving complicated cases, this is not uncommon.
But did Sonko bother to find out this? Nope. He chose to call it sinister because he did not understand it. He proceeded to suspend the team without investigation. So where did the extra 6 bodies come from? BTW the so called Dr. Bosire should know that the nurses gave enough information before he left. ODPP is on the case, we'll know this sooner So now they have become investigators? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Dr. Bosire has shed light on the issue. https://www.standardmedi...wani-maternity-hospital
Quote:Facts about Pumwani maternity hospital
Pumwani has no morgue. Never has. All bodies of deceased mothers, newborns and stillbirths are collected by the city mortuary morticians in the morning. Before, this happened daily, nowadays it happens Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.
For little angels who pass on before birth or in the new born units due to complications, the families have the option of taking them to bury or they can give them up and the hospital then has them buried. This happens in both public and private sector, permissible
There are no body bags to keep the deceased in before transfer to the morgue. Hospital staff have to make do with what's available. Carton boxes and plastic disposal bags are the most available temporary storage for these little angels.
Every deceased person, irrespective of age, is registered in the death notification register provided by the registrar of persons (births and deaths). Each of these little ones is moved to city mortuary with an attached notification. They are not just statistics.
Pumwani has accounted for 6 deaths in the period between Friday 14th to Sunday 16th. Only 6 deaths are listed. This number is against 156 deliveries conducted in the said period. Being a referral hospital receiving complicated cases, this is not uncommon.
But did Sonko bother to find out this? Nope. He chose to call it sinister because he did not understand it. He proceeded to suspend the team without investigation. So where did the extra 6 bodies come from? BTW the so called Dr. Bosire should know that the nurses gave enough information before he left. ODPP is on the case, we'll know this sooner So now they have become investigators? ODPP has directed DCI yawa....Angel. Bora uhai "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Dr. Bosire has shed light on the issue. https://www.standardmedi...wani-maternity-hospital
Quote:Facts about Pumwani maternity hospital
Pumwani has no morgue. Never has. All bodies of deceased mothers, newborns and stillbirths are collected by the city mortuary morticians in the morning. Before, this happened daily, nowadays it happens Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.
For little angels who pass on before birth or in the new born units due to complications, the families have the option of taking them to bury or they can give them up and the hospital then has them buried. This happens in both public and private sector, permissible by law.
There are no body bags to keep the deceased in before transfer to the morgue. Hospital staff have to make do with what's available. Carton boxes and plastic disposal bags are the most available temporary storage for these little angels.
Every deceased person, irrespective of age, is registered in the death notification register provided by the registrar of persons (births and deaths). Each of these little ones is moved to city mortuary with an attached notification. They are not just statistics.
Pumwani has accounted for 6 deaths in the period between Friday 14th to Sunday 16th. Only 6 deaths are listed. This number is against 156 deliveries conducted in the said period. Being a referral hospital receiving complicated cases, this is not uncommon.
But did Sonko bother to find out this? Nope. He chose to call it sinister because he did not understand it. He proceeded to suspend the team without investigation. So where did the extra 6 bodies come from? BTW the so called Dr. Bosire should know that the nurses gave enough information before he left. ODPP is on the case, we'll know this sooner So now they have become investigators? The other 6 could have been still births. Maybe they record on the register infants that die after birth, not before birth. Anyway I am not a doctor but on medical matters i'd rather listen to doctors (who have sworn by the hypocritical oath and are regulated by a professional medical body) than sonko and his populist gimmicks. What would a doctor or nurse gain by killing an infant?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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hardwood wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Dr. Bosire has shed light on the issue. https://www.standardmedi...wani-maternity-hospital
Quote:Facts about Pumwani maternity hospital
Pumwani has no morgue. Never has. All bodies of deceased mothers, newborns and stillbirths are collected by the city mortuary morticians in the morning. Before, this happened daily, nowadays it happens Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.
For little angels who pass on before birth or in the new born units due to complications, the families have the option of taking them to bury or they can give them up and the hospital then has them buried. This happens in both public and private sector, permissible
There are no body bags to keep the deceased in before transfer to the morgue. Hospital staff have to make do with what's available. Carton boxes and plastic disposal bags are the most available temporary storage for these little angels.
Every deceased person, irrespective of age, is registered in the death notification register provided by the registrar of persons (births and deaths). Each of these little ones is moved to city mortuary with an attached notification. They are not just statistics.
Pumwani has accounted for 6 deaths in the period between Friday 14th to Sunday 16th. Only 6 deaths are listed. This number is against 156 deliveries conducted in the said period. Being a referral hospital receiving complicated cases, this is not uncommon.
But did Sonko bother to find out this? Nope. He chose to call it sinister because he did not understand it. He proceeded to suspend the team without investigation. So where did the extra 6 bodies come from? BTW the so called Dr. Bosire should know that the nurses gave enough information before he left. ODPP is on the case, we'll know this sooner So now they have become investigators? The other 6 could have been still births. Maybe they record on the register infants that die after birth, not before birth. Anyway I am not a doctor but on medical matters i'd rather listen to doctors (who have sworn by the hypocritical oath and are regulated by a professional medical body) than sonko and his populist gimmicks. What would a doctor or nurse gain by killing an infant? According to the official report, the 6 include still births. The nurses gave good reasons listen to the clips online. The so called consultants do not report to work so women stay in labor for 2 weeks, some instances the woman needs a C-section which is not given in the end the baby dies in the womb...they even gave accounts of how some babies start rotting in the women's womb........ This is the official note from the Superintendent who was not in   "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Why should the county spend hundreds of millions for beautification while neglecting health care. FYI apart from pumwani, mama lucy and mbagathi there are very many city council dispensaries all over nairobi estates. All these facilities should be properly equipped and staffed, including by cuban doctors, since many nairobians cant afford private healthcare. Remember kiambu gabana complaining that his county hospitals are strained by patients from nairobi county and he can't turn them away.
That said if any medical staff in the pumwani baby saga was negligent they should be punished.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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hardwood wrote:Why should the county spend hundreds of millions for beautification while neglecting health care. FYI apart from pumwani, mama lucy and mbagathi there are very many city council dispensaries all over nairobi estates. All these facilities should be properly equipped and staffed, including by cuban doctors, since many nairobians cant afford private healthcare. Remember kiambu gabana complaining that his county hospitals are strained by patients from nairobi county and he can't turn them away.
That said if any medical staff in the pumwani baby saga was negligent they should be punished. The hospital has a medical superitedent who handles the budget allocation of the hospital what has he been doing? This is no kiosk there's a budget for everything "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/18/2018 Posts: 121
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In carton boxes wajameni? There was a time kina mama walisema watoto wao walikuwa swapped na walio fariki...Seeing this made me very uncomfortable..Seems kuna mchezo fulani hapa? Infant selling? There was a pathologist who allegedly stole some organs.. Mind you this is purely speculation on my part...Then again it could be purely good old fashioned Kenyan incompetence/neglect...This was very very disturbing... Ce n’est pas si grave...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Kenya is a 3rd world, corrupt and poor country that thinks of itself as something else All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:Kenya is a 3rd world, corrupt and poor country that thinks of itself as something else True.... possunt quia posse videntur
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