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Kajiado SGR drilling hits unlimited fresh water
MugundaMan
#1 Posted : Saturday, September 15, 2018 7:07:51 AM
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Who was that who was saying dust bowl is full of "salty water?" Laughing out loudly

This water is so fresh and clean it can supply 2500 families forever!

Means there is a giant aquifer in the area.
VituVingiSana
#2 Posted : Sunday, September 16, 2018 12:54:04 AM
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MugundaMan wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/counties/Kajiado-taps-spring--water-from-SGR-tunnel/4003142-4758872-y06cua/index.html

Who was that who was saying dust bowl is full of "salty water?" Laughing out loudly

This water is so fresh and clean it can supply 2500 families forever!

Means there is a giant aquifer in the area.

2,500 families?
Let's say that's 5x per (urban) family = 12,500
That's less than 1 month's procreation given the (excessive) fertility in the area.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
MugundaMan
#3 Posted : Sunday, September 16, 2018 6:17:16 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
MugundaMan wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/counties/Kajiado-taps-spring--water-from-SGR-tunnel/4003142-4758872-y06cua/index.html

Who was that who was saying dust bowl is full of "salty water?" Laughing out loudly

This water is so fresh and clean it can supply 2500 families forever!

Means there is a giant aquifer in the area.

2,500 families?
Let's say that's 5x per (urban) family = 12,500
That's less than 1 month's procreation given the (excessive) fertility in the area.


Don't those 12,500 human beings deserve clean, fresh water. Or are you one of those sadists who believes only he should have water and the rest of Kenya can go to the dogs? smile
Chaka
#4 Posted : Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:58:03 AM
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Have you considered that the residents there have huge tracts of land,ie those families are likely to be spread over a large area around the water dam?

VituVingiSana wrote:

2,500 families?
Let's say that's 5x per (urban) family = 12,500
That's less than 1 month's procreation given the (excessive) fertility in the area.

sparkly
#5 Posted : Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:31:05 AM
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MugundaMan wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/counties/Kajiado-taps-spring--water-from-SGR-tunnel/4003142-4758872-y06cua/index.html

Who was that who was saying dust bowl is full of "salty water?" Laughing out loudly

This water is so fresh and clean it can supply 2500 families forever!

Means there is a giant aquifer in the area.


Good for people of Kajiado. However, water is not a scarce resource in Kenya. Even the driest parts of Kenya have plenty of surface and sub-surface water.

Water scarcity is a fallacy that has been peddled by lazy unaccountable leaders. Take Ukambani for instance. How is ukambani "dry" yet it hosts Tana Athi the biggest river basin in Kenya?
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Realtreaty
#6 Posted : Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:21:26 PM
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Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Photos????
kayhara
#7 Posted : Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:37:59 PM
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You are right, Kenya has plenty of water,but why does it have to take foreigners to discover water remember the turkana aquifer, remember the the turkana residents having to trek many miles for water after trying to kick out the oil explorers, we can't even do simple pipelines to transport water from where it is plenty to dry areas a good example is Mombasa and mzima, just a pipeline no need to even pump, and Kenyans being allergic to rain harvesting, you build your mansion and skip the water tank, but build a huge septic tank
To Each His Own
murchr
#8 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 12:48:34 AM
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I concur @kayhara a foreigner has to discover everything. The si called hydrologists in this country didn't know that there's water there? And why does it have to be dammed in that dam specifically and not a new dam ? The amount of rain that Kenya gets is enough to sustain everyone
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MugundaMan
#9 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 8:18:42 AM
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kayhara wrote:
You are right, Kenya has plenty of water,but why does it have to take foreigners to discover water remember the turkana aquifer, remember the the turkana residents having to trek many miles for water after trying to kick out the oil explorers, we can't even do simple pipelines to transport water from where it is plenty to dry areas a good example is Mombasa and mzima, just a pipeline no need to even pump, and Kenyans being allergic to rain harvesting, you build your mansion and skip the water tank, but build a huge septic tank



Well said. The Turukana aquifer was said to have enough water to satisfy the country's needs for many decades! Why not extract it and pipe the water to every home in Kenya? On being allergic to rainwater harvesting; I think most are just clueless about creating a simple harvesting system. Common knowledge is not that common. Some may not even know what the purpose of a gutter is so they do not install them. Others are too tight with money to want pay the extra expense. They would rather spend it on nyama choma and slay queens #Priorities
sparkly
#10 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 9:16:48 AM
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kayhara wrote:
You are right, Kenya has plenty of water,but why does it have to take foreigners to discover water remember the turkana aquifer, remember the the turkana residents having to trek many miles for water after trying to kick out the oil explorers, we can't even do simple pipelines to transport water from where it is plenty to dry areas a good example is Mombasa and mzima, just a pipeline no need to even pump, and Kenyans being allergic to rain harvesting, you build your mansion and skip the water tank, but build a huge septic tank


Water does not need to be discovered. If you drill a few feet where you are right now, you will fund water.
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VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 9:56:36 AM
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MugundaMan wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MugundaMan wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/counties/Kajiado-taps-spring--water-from-SGR-tunnel/4003142-4758872-y06cua/index.html

Who was that who was saying dust bowl is full of "salty water?" Laughing out loudly

This water is so fresh and clean it can supply 2500 families forever!

Means there is a giant aquifer in the area.

2,500 families?
Let's say that's 5x per (urban) family = 12,500
That's less than 1 month's procreation given the (excessive) fertility in the area.


Don't those 12,500 human beings deserve clean, fresh water. Or are you one of those sadists who believes only he should have water and the rest of Kenya can go to the dogs? smile

You totally missed the point.
There is need to institute family planning or they will be back to where they started. This is a great resource that should be used to improve the lives on the current population "forever" rather than end up with "10 liters/person" in 10 years because the population tripled.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#12 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 9:59:15 AM
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How will they draw the water unless they are close to the dam?
If the dam is wide rather than deep then the water will evaporate.

Chaka wrote:
Have you considered that the residents there have huge tracts of land,ie those families are likely to be spread over a large area around the water dam?

VituVingiSana wrote:

2,500 families?
Let's say that's 5x per (urban) family = 12,500
That's less than 1 month's procreation given the (excessive) fertility in the area.


Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#13 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 10:02:02 AM
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sparkly wrote:
kayhara wrote:
You are right, Kenya has plenty of water,but why does it have to take foreigners to discover water remember the turkana aquifer, remember the the turkana residents having to trek many miles for water after trying to kick out the oil explorers, we can't even do simple pipelines to transport water from where it is plenty to dry areas a good example is Mombasa and mzima, just a pipeline no need to even pump, and Kenyans being allergic to rain harvesting, you build your mansion and skip the water tank, but build a huge septic tank


Water does not need to be discovered. If you drill a few feet where you are right now, you will fund water.

So the lazy bums will not dig/drill down a few feet?

BTW, that is not uncommon. I have a friend whose borehole is expected to supply water for her neighbors' domestic use and cattle. For free. She is expected to pay for the diesel too!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
MugundaMan
#14 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 10:03:21 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
MugundaMan wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MugundaMan wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/counties/Kajiado-taps-spring--water-from-SGR-tunnel/4003142-4758872-y06cua/index.html

Who was that who was saying dust bowl is full of "salty water?" Laughing out loudly

This water is so fresh and clean it can supply 2500 families forever!

Means there is a giant aquifer in the area.

2,500 families?
Let's say that's 5x per (urban) family = 12,500
That's less than 1 month's procreation given the (excessive) fertility in the area.


Don't those 12,500 human beings deserve clean, fresh water. Or are you one of those sadists who believes only he should have water and the rest of Kenya can go to the dogs? smile

You totally missed the point.
There is need to institute family planning or they will be back to where they started. This is a great resource that should be used to improve the lives on the current population "forever" rather than end up with "10 liters/person" in 10 years because the population tripled.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Why not start a thread about family planning then? This is a thread about the fresh spring Kajiado West is now enjoying thoroughly
murchr
#15 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 2:04:26 PM
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sparkly wrote:
kayhara wrote:
You are right, Kenya has plenty of water,but why does it have to take foreigners to discover water remember the turkana aquifer, remember the the turkana residents having to trek many miles for water after trying to kick out the oil explorers, we can't even do simple pipelines to transport water from where it is plenty to dry areas a good example is Mombasa and mzima, just a pipeline no need to even pump, and Kenyans being allergic to rain harvesting, you build your mansion and skip the water tank, but build a huge septic tank


Water does not need to be discovered. If you drill a few feet where you are right now, you will fund water.



Hapana boss. Uliza Gov. Mutua
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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sparkly
#16 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 5:51:08 PM
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murchr wrote:
sparkly wrote:
kayhara wrote:
You are right, Kenya has plenty of water,but why does it have to take foreigners to discover water remember the turkana aquifer, remember the the turkana residents having to trek many miles for water after trying to kick out the oil explorers, we can't even do simple pipelines to transport water from where it is plenty to dry areas a good example is Mombasa and mzima, just a pipeline no need to even pump, and Kenyans being allergic to rain harvesting, you build your mansion and skip the water tank, but build a huge septic tank


Water does not need to be discovered. If you drill a few feet where you are right now, you will fund water.



Hapana boss. Uliza Gov. Mutua


Some countries desalinate seawater, others harvest clouds. Hatujafika hapo
Life is short. Live passionately.
rwitre
#17 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 5:58:39 PM
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sparkly wrote:
murchr wrote:
sparkly wrote:
kayhara wrote:
You are right, Kenya has plenty of water,but why does it have to take foreigners to discover water remember the turkana aquifer, remember the the turkana residents having to trek many miles for water after trying to kick out the oil explorers, we can't even do simple pipelines to transport water from where it is plenty to dry areas a good example is Mombasa and mzima, just a pipeline no need to even pump, and Kenyans being allergic to rain harvesting, you build your mansion and skip the water tank, but build a huge septic tank


Water does not need to be discovered. If you drill a few feet where you are right now, you will fund water.



Hapana boss. Uliza Gov. Mutua


Some countries desalinate seawater, others harvest clouds. Hatujafika hapo


Tupambane na hali yetu Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
kayhara
#18 Posted : Monday, September 17, 2018 8:45:46 PM
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rwitre wrote:
sparkly wrote:
murchr wrote:
sparkly wrote:
kayhara wrote:
You are right, Kenya has plenty of water,but why does it have to take foreigners to discover water remember the turkana aquifer, remember the the turkana residents having to trek many miles for water after trying to kick out the oil explorers, we can't even do simple pipelines to transport water from where it is plenty to dry areas a good example is Mombasa and mzima, just a pipeline no need to even pump, and Kenyans being allergic to rain harvesting, you build your mansion and skip the water tank, but build a huge septic tank


Water does not need to be discovered. If you drill a few feet where you are right now, you will fund water.



Hapana boss. Uliza Gov. Mutua


Some countries desalinate seawater, others harvest clouds. Hatujafika hapo


Tupambane na hali yetu Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

smile Simple solutions kama water tanks hata zile za plastic say 20k liters is enough for most rural families for some time, then kuna good old wells, boreholes lower the water table I don't like them, kenyans also stop draining swamps, that's where your well and borehole water comes from, if you have 5 acres of land do a one acre dam or water pan to irrigate the rest 4 acres ,
again we are not using our rivers to the fullest indian ocean and lake victoria have enough water we need the water that flows there
To Each His Own
Horton
#19 Posted : Tuesday, September 18, 2018 2:09:15 PM
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Speaking of SGR and *Shina* anyone watched the China Hustle?
MugundaMan
#20 Posted : Tuesday, September 18, 2018 5:32:49 PM
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kayhara wrote:

smile Simple solutions kama water tanks hata zile za plastic say 20k liters is enough for most rural families for some time, then kuna good old wells, boreholes lower the water table I don't like them, kenyans also stop draining swamps, that's where your well and borehole water comes from, if you have 5 acres of land do a one acre dam or water pan to irrigate the rest 4 acres ,
again we are not using our rivers to the fullest indian ocean and lake victoria have enough water we need the water that flows there


This is a brilliant idea my braddah. Wazua kweli has value. One good idea alone gleaned hapa pays for itself over and over again. Has given me the idea of doing a rainwater harvesting deep dam similar to the one below (but on a alarger scale) using the huge amounts of surface runoff water especially from the roads around the property that go to waste during the rainy season. Could also farm catfish or exotic wanyamas like prawns, lobsters or shrimp, depending on whether they can hack those weather conditions, while having plenty of water for irrigation.



Also want to try the Napier boundary plus intercropping with desmodium method to avoid most pests without using insecticides as I want to go 100% organic.
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