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Matrimonial property -Any lawyer in the house?
mkenyan
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2018 3:36:00 PM
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2012 wrote:
Motomoto wrote:
Asking for a friend. If you separate and not legally divorced is there a way a court can divide the matrimonial property if the two of you can't agree. Is there a way a court can award each their portion but still not legally divorced.


Nope. Without divorce the property belongs to the person the property is listed under. If the property is co-own or in shares then they can sell and divide the loot.

transfer of land nowadays require consent of one's spouse whether it is solely in your name or not.
Ryko
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2018 4:46:40 PM
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Just thinking out loudly & wondering:

When doing an asset transfer (specifically leases/sublease) i.e. land (sublease) and apartments like (sublease). The lawyer asked for this three documents:

1. photocopy ID of spouse - easy to get without her knowledge

2. passport photo spouse- easy to get without her knowledge

3. Fill a form with signature- easy to draw

I am just wondering how difficult is it to get this things from a partner or ex? The only difficult thing here is the signature, i think it is very easy to copy a signature kama ni kubaya.

The only challenge may be the lands board- but i hear you can hire a slay queen to represent the ex.

By the time inajulikana umepocket $$
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Angelica _ann
#13 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2018 4:48:51 PM
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Ryko wrote:
Just thinking out Loudly & wondering:

When doing an asset transfer (specifically leases/sublease)i.e land (sublease) and apartments like (sublease). The lawyer asked for this three documents
1. photocopy ID of spouse - easy to get without her knowledge
2. passport photo spouse- easy to get without her knowledge
3. fill a form with signature- easy to draw

I am just wondering how difficult is it to get this things from a partner or ex? The only difficult thing here is the signature, i think it is very easy to copy a signature kama ni kubaya.

The only challenge may be the lands board- but i hear you can hire a slay queen to represent the ex.


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Wakanyugi
#14 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:46:03 PM
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Wow!

We have some diabolical minds in this Wazuastan.

I have to start avoiding dark alleys
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Motomoto
#15 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:13:34 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Ryko wrote:
Just thinking out Loudly & wondering:

When doing an asset transfer (specifically leases/sublease)i.e land (sublease) and apartments like (sublease). The lawyer asked for this three documents
1. photocopy ID of spouse - easy to get without her knowledge
2. passport photo spouse- easy to get without her knowledge
3. fill a form with signature- easy to draw

I am just wondering how difficult is it to get this things from a partner or ex? The only difficult thing here is the signature, i think it is very easy to copy a signature kama ni kubaya.

The only challenge may be the lands board- but i hear you can hire a slay queen to represent the ex.


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This you can do if the property in question is not of so much value.But in Kenya today where people can sell a house in mars people will carry out due diligence, unless one is dumb.
Swenani
#16 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2018 8:12:57 AM
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Ryko wrote:
Just thinking out loudly & wondering:

When doing an asset transfer (specifically leases/sublease) i.e. land (sublease) and apartments like (sublease). The lawyer asked for this three documents:

1. photocopy ID of spouse - easy to get without her knowledge

2. passport photo spouse- easy to get without her knowledge

3. Fill a form with signature- easy to draw

I am just wondering how difficult is it to get this things from a partner or ex? The only difficult thing here is the signature, i think it is very easy to copy a signature kama ni kubaya.

The only challenge may be the lands board- but i hear you can hire a slay queen to represent the ex.

By the time inajulikana umepocket $$


why go through all this when you can avoid this by being a man and buy all the properties in your name without asking support from your lady. Her money is her's while your money is for both of you but the property is yours
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simonkabz
#17 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2018 8:23:33 AM
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mkenyan wrote:
2012 wrote:
Motomoto wrote:
Asking for a friend. If you separate and not legally divorced is there a way a court can divide the matrimonial property if the two of you can't agree. Is there a way a court can award each their portion but still not legally divorced.


Nope. Without divorce the property belongs to the person the property is listed under. If the property is co-own or in shares then they can sell and divide the loot.

transfer of land nowadays require consent of one's spouse whether it is solely in your name or not.


True.

But this is still the good old Kenya πŸ‡°πŸ‡ͺ where stuff happens.

Tell your friend to be a real Kenyan πŸ’°πŸ’΄πŸ’²πŸ’·πŸ’ΆπŸ’΅ and sell his properties, Ala!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Kusadikika
#18 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2018 6:19:03 PM
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Kama ulioa mtu:

Plead and beg and try to come to a level headed agreement that is beneficial for all parties involved. Look to the future and do what is best for both of you even if you have disagreements now.

Kama ulioa nyoka:

Refer to post #10 above.
Ryko
#19 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2018 7:24:36 PM
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Motomoto wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ryko wrote:
Just thinking out Loudly & wondering:

When doing an asset transfer (specifically leases/sublease)i.e land (sublease) and apartments like (sublease). The lawyer asked for this three documents
1. photocopy ID of spouse - easy to get without her knowledge
2. passport photo spouse- easy to get without her knowledge
3. fill a form with signature- easy to draw

I am just wondering how difficult is it to get this things from a partner or ex? The only difficult thing here is the signature, i think it is very easy to copy a signature kama ni kubaya.

The only challenge may be the lands board- but i hear you can hire a slay queen to represent the ex.


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πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
This you can do if the property in question is not of so much value.But in Kenya today where people can sell a house in mars people will carry out due diligence, unless one is dumb.


Yes at least you have confirmed it can be done easily. People do "due diligence" but the partner part is a blind spot.
I work so I can afford the amount of alcohol required to continue going to work
Ryko
#20 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2018 7:29:24 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Ryko wrote:
Just thinking out loudly & wondering:

When doing an asset transfer (specifically leases/sublease) i.e. land (sublease) and apartments like (sublease). The lawyer asked for this three documents:

1. photocopy ID of spouse - easy to get without her knowledge

2. passport photo spouse- easy to get without her knowledge

3. Fill a form with signature- easy to draw

I am just wondering how difficult is it to get this things from a partner or ex? The only difficult thing here is the signature, i think it is very easy to copy a signature kama ni kubaya.

The only challenge may be the lands board- but i hear you can hire a slay queen to represent the ex.

By the time inajulikana umepocket $$


why go through all this when you can avoid this by being a man and buy all the properties in your name without asking support from your lady. Her money is her's while your money is for both of you but the property is yours


@swenani The property i was transferring was in my NAME. Everything was in my name but i was given a form and asked for all those consent documents. This is what is happening currently, you need consent ata kama iko kwa jina yako tu. I was astonished for a second after being asked for this 3 documents yet clearly everything was in my name, then i began thinking "What if.." so now i have ID/Passports stashed somewhere.
I work so I can afford the amount of alcohol required to continue going to work
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