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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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    For illustration purposes only: An overwhelming number of estate and feeder roads look like this in Eastlands. Wajamaa please make me understand what this fella is trying to say. Is this acceptable anywhere? The GoK seems to understand that Nairobi is filthy, stinking and rotten, hence the Ksh 7b meant for estate and feeder roads as part of the regeneration. But to me, that's a drop in the ocean. Statehouse needs real advisors, not bloggers, not Runda cerelac babies. People who have seen it all in these uninhabitable, dangerous and dirty estates. An attempt to Justify people living like animals in their own country, in a "top 10" African city is outright evil. These factors ultimately lead to canalized traffic, dirty dusty muddy estates, health problems and low living standards. Those dirt roads are never swept. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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simonkabz wrote:For illustration purposes only: An overwhelming number of estate and feeder roads look like this in Eastlands. Wajamaa please make me understand what this fella is trying to say. Is this acceptable anywhere? The GoK seems to understand that Nairobi is filthy, stinking and rotten, hence the Ksh 7b meant for estate and feeder roads as part of the regeneration. But to me, that's a drop in the ocean. Statehouse needs real advisors, not bloggers, not Runda cerelac babies. People who have seen it all in these uninhabitable, dangerous and dirty estates. An attempt to Justify people living like animals in their own country, in a "top 10" African city is outright evil. These factors ultimately lead to canalized traffic, dirty dusty muddy estates, health problems and low living standards. Those dirt roads are never swept. When you subdivide tuplotis for sale you are supposed to provide paved roads, drainage and street lighting as one of the conditions for approval. Also surrender 10% of the land for public and social services. The mess you are witnessing up there would never have happened if the law was followed to the letter. Those roads are the responsibility of those who sold the land, not govt whether county or national. All those inner roads in eastlands, rongai, mwiki, kasarani, membley etc should have been tarmacked by the land sellers. Therefore those tenants marooned in mud should complain to their landlords who should in turn demand roads from those who sold them the land.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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simonkabz wrote:For illustration purposes only: An overwhelming number of estate and feeder roads look like this in Eastlands. Wajamaa please make me understand what this fella is trying to say. Is this acceptable anywhere? The GoK seems to understand that Nairobi is filthy, stinking and rotten, hence the Ksh 7b meant for estate and feeder roads as part of the regeneration. But to me, that's a drop in the ocean. Statehouse needs real advisors, not bloggers, not Runda cerelac babies. People who have seen it all in these uninhabitable, dangerous and dirty estates. An attempt to Justify people living like animals in their own country, in a "top 10" African city is outright evil. These factors ultimately lead to canalized traffic, dirty dusty muddy estates, health problems and low living standards. Those dirt roads are never swept. Estate/slum roads are not feeder roads they are access roads and those are handled by the county council. When an estate is planned the maps should indicate access roads and part of the monies you pay the council for property development should go into that. Infact in some instances the developers do the roads, that's how estates like South B were planned and developed (apart from Riverbank estate where the developer died and the company/son failed to fulfill that part of the bargain). Now if the council did not see to it that roads were built to access those 1/8 plots in Eastlands, who should be held responsible? Why should money be diverted to help you reach your plot from the Main Road? Watu wa Eastlands should reach out to their MCAs "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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hardwood wrote:simonkabz wrote:For illustration purposes only: An overwhelming number of estate and feeder roads look like this in Eastlands. Wajamaa please make me understand what this fella is trying to say. Is this acceptable anywhere? The GoK seems to understand that Nairobi is filthy, stinking and rotten, hence the Ksh 7b meant for estate and feeder roads as part of the regeneration. But to me, that's a drop in the ocean. Statehouse needs real advisors, not bloggers, not Runda cerelac babies. People who have seen it all in these uninhabitable, dangerous and dirty estates. An attempt to Justify people living like animals in their own country, in a "top 10" African city is outright evil. These factors ultimately lead to canalized traffic, dirty dusty muddy estates, health problems and low living standards. Those dirt roads are never swept. When you subdivide tuplotis for sale you are supposed to provide paved roads, drainage and street lighting as one of the conditions for approval. Also surrender 10% of the land for public and social services. The mess you are witnessing up there would never have happened if the law was followed to the letter. Those roads are the responsibility of those who sold the land, not govt whether county or national. All those inner roads in eastlands, rongai, mwiki, kasarani, membley etc should have been tarmacked by the land sellers. Therefore those tenants marooned in mud should complain to their landlords who should in turn demand roads from those who sold them the land. Ahem!!!! "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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hardwood wrote:simonkabz wrote:For illustration purposes only: An overwhelming number of estate and feeder roads look like this in Eastlands. Wajamaa please make me understand what this fella is trying to say. Is this acceptable anywhere? The GoK seems to understand that Nairobi is filthy, stinking and rotten, hence the Ksh 7b meant for estate and feeder roads as part of the regeneration. But to me, that's a drop in the ocean. Statehouse needs real advisors, not bloggers, not Runda cerelac babies. People who have seen it all in these uninhabitable, dangerous and dirty estates. An attempt to Justify people living like animals in their own country, in a "top 10" African city is outright evil. These factors ultimately lead to canalized traffic, dirty dusty muddy estates, health problems and low living standards. Those dirt roads are never swept. When you subdivide tuplotis for sale you are supposed to provide paved roads, drainage and street lighting as one of the conditions for approval. Also surrender 10% of the land for public and social services. The mess you are witnessing up there would never have happened if the law was followed to the letter. Those roads are the responsibility of those who sold the land, not govt whether county or national. All those inner roads in eastlands, rongai, mwiki, kasarani, membley etc should have been tarmacked by the land sellers. Therefore those tenants marooned in mud should complain to their landlords who should in turn demand roads from those who sold them the land. 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 Mko na maneno ndugu hardwood. You are lying through the teeth.....or is that a suggestion? Any land, carved as a road during land subdivision, automatically becomes public land and specifically, road reserve. The "divider" has zero responsibility on the said reserve. It's 100% govt responsibility to use it as it pleases.. But that is besides the point. Huko majuu mahali haka kajamaa kalitembea, did the dividers tarmac those estates? Not. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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murchr wrote:simonkabz wrote:For illustration purposes only: An overwhelming number of estate and feeder roads look like this in Eastlands. Wajamaa please make me understand what this fella is trying to say. Is this acceptable anywhere? The GoK seems to understand that Nairobi is filthy, stinking and rotten, hence the Ksh 7b meant for estate and feeder roads as part of the regeneration. But to me, that's a drop in the ocean. Statehouse needs real advisors, not bloggers, not Runda cerelac babies. People who have seen it all in these uninhabitable, dangerous and dirty estates. An attempt to Justify people living like animals in their own country, in a "top 10" African city is outright evil. These factors ultimately lead to canalized traffic, dirty dusty muddy estates, health problems and low living standards. Those dirt roads are never swept. Estate/slum roads are not feeder roads they are access roads and those are handled by the county council. When an estate is planned the maps should indicate access roads and part of the monies you pay the council for property development should go into that. Infact in some instances the developers do the roads, that's how estates like South B were planned and developed (apart from Riverbank estate where the developer died and the company/son failed to fulfill that part of the bargain). Now if the council did not see to it that roads were built to access those 1/8 plots in Eastlands, who should be held responsible? Why should money be diverted to help you reach your plot from the Main Road? Watu wa Eastlands should reach out to their MCAs Listen here spoilt brat. I'm sure you've been to Karen and Kile and Runda. Who built that dense network of roads if not the GoK using public funds? What pains you so much if the majority who happen to be Eastlanders get a similar treatment as the rich? What makes you think the rich deserve our money more than the poor hustlers of Eastlands? Wewe ni nogo tu. I'd like to know where you fall in this divide you've created. Rich or hustler? TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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simonkabz wrote:murchr wrote:simonkabz wrote:For illustration purposes only: An overwhelming number of estate and feeder roads look like this in Eastlands. Wajamaa please make me understand what this fella is trying to say. Is this acceptable anywhere? The GoK seems to understand that Nairobi is filthy, stinking and rotten, hence the Ksh 7b meant for estate and feeder roads as part of the regeneration. But to me, that's a drop in the ocean. Statehouse needs real advisors, not bloggers, not Runda cerelac babies. People who have seen it all in these uninhabitable, dangerous and dirty estates. An attempt to Justify people living like animals in their own country, in a "top 10" African city is outright evil. These factors ultimately lead to canalized traffic, dirty dusty muddy estates, health problems and low living standards. Those dirt roads are never swept. Estate/slum roads are not feeder roads they are access roads and those are handled by the county council. When an estate is planned the maps should indicate access roads and part of the monies you pay the council for property development should go into that. Infact in some instances the developers do the roads, that's how estates like South B were planned and developed (apart from Riverbank estate where the developer died and the company/son failed to fulfill that part of the bargain). Now if the council did not see to it that roads were built to access those 1/8 plots in Eastlands, who should be held responsible? Why should money be diverted to help you reach your plot from the Main Road? Watu wa Eastlands should reach out to their MCAs Listen here spoilt brat. I'm sure you've been to Karen and Kile and Runda. Who built that dense network of roads if not the GoK using public funds? What pains you so much if the majority who happen to be Eastlanders get a similar treatment as the rich? What makes you think the rich deserve our money more than the poor hustlers of Eastlands? Wewe ni nogo tu. I'd like to know where you fall in this divide you've created. Rich or hustler?  Wacha nicheke tu. Kweli uyajui mengi. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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simonkabz wrote:For illustration purposes only: An overwhelming number of estate and feeder roads look like this in Eastlands. Wajamaa please make me understand what this fella is trying to say. Is this acceptable anywhere? The GoK seems to understand that Nairobi is filthy, stinking and rotten, hence the Ksh 7b meant for estate and feeder roads as part of the regeneration. But to me, that's a drop in the ocean. Statehouse needs real advisors, not bloggers, not Runda cerelac babies. People who have seen it all in these uninhabitable, dangerous and dirty estates. An attempt to Justify people living like animals in their own country, in a "top 10" African city is outright evil. These factors ultimately lead to canalized traffic, dirty dusty muddy estates, health problems and low living standards. Those dirt roads are never swept. At the end of the day, these images are the face of Nairobi. Tupende tusipende. You cannot convince anybody out there that those poor idiots of Eastlands should have built the roads themselves. Yet a simple Google search brings them out. Other than this boy, is there anybody else who supports this level of neglect? We have rural roads that are barely used. The famous Nyoka Nyoka road, is so deserted you'd think you're in Somalia. Yet human beings live like this. It's the same story with Ruiru, Juja, Thika, Witeithie. People live like animals in some of these so called towns. Nothing to smile about. I belong to the group that can afford fairly decent livelihood. But if this is the casual attitude we treat fellow struggling Kenyans, we're going nowhere. Can wazua's give their input tusikie, maybe I care too much about backwardness......... TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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simonkabz wrote:hardwood wrote:simonkabz wrote:For illustration purposes only: An overwhelming number of estate and feeder roads look like this in Eastlands. Wajamaa please make me understand what this fella is trying to say. Is this acceptable anywhere? The GoK seems to understand that Nairobi is filthy, stinking and rotten, hence the Ksh 7b meant for estate and feeder roads as part of the regeneration. But to me, that's a drop in the ocean. Statehouse needs real advisors, not bloggers, not Runda cerelac babies. People who have seen it all in these uninhabitable, dangerous and dirty estates. An attempt to Justify people living like animals in their own country, in a "top 10" African city is outright evil. These factors ultimately lead to canalized traffic, dirty dusty muddy estates, health problems and low living standards. Those dirt roads are never swept. When you subdivide tuplotis for sale you are supposed to provide paved roads, drainage and street lighting as one of the conditions for approval. Also surrender 10% of the land for public and social services. The mess you are witnessing up there would never have happened if the law was followed to the letter. Those roads are the responsibility of those who sold the land, not govt whether county or national. All those inner roads in eastlands, rongai, mwiki, kasarani, membley etc should have been tarmacked by the land sellers. Therefore those tenants marooned in mud should complain to their landlords who should in turn demand roads from those who sold them the land. 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 Mko na maneno ndugu hardwood. You are lying through the teeth.....or is that a suggestion? Any land, carved as a road during land subdivision, automatically becomes public land and specifically, road reserve. The "divider" has zero responsibility on the said reserve. It's 100% govt responsibility to use it as it pleases.. But that is besides the point. Huko majuu mahali haka kajamaa kalitembea, did the dividers tarmac those estates? Not. Just because people do things the juakali way doesn't mean that is what the law says. Land sold is required by law to be serviced. Serviced with roads, drainage, street lighting, sewer etc. By road they mean a proper surfaced road (tarmac, cabro etc), not a road on a map. If land sellers/developers in upmarket areas provide roads and other services, same should be made mandatory in eastlands?  
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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I'm beginning t understand why things are the way they are. We simply accept low standards and even give excuses for filth. For me, it's an eye opener how things are arrived at up there. We are a sick people, we deserve the sickness, we deserve the filth and low HDI. I just happen to be an unlucky observer in a country full of shit. Luckily, I've been to far far shittier countries, all in Africa. Mwafrika ni nugu. https://media.giphy.com/...5yPuqn9vIGL84/giphy.gif TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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