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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
the deal
#10611 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:57:52 PM
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@obiero KQ just posted one of it's best performance in terms of plane utilisation with cabin factors at 75.9% and yet still posted an operating loss...it looks like they're now competing on Price...the question is what is KQ Break even cabin factors now? I highly doubt they will hit 85% even with U.S. Flight....
obiero
#10612 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:18:43 PM
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the deal wrote:
@obiero KQ just posted one of it's best performance in terms of plane utilisation with cabin factors at 75.9% and yet still posted an operating loss...it looks like they're now competing on Price...the question is what is KQ Break even cabin factors now? I highly doubt they will hit 85% even with U.S. Flight....

My take is that the operational costs ate into all the gains.. Fairly acceptable results for a turnaround entity

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#10613 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:23:47 PM
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tandich wrote:
Results seem to have been posted without the balance sheet. I wonder why.

Wewe itisha balance sheet uwekewe

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#10614 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 10:38:37 PM
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obiero wrote:
tandich wrote:
Results seem to have been posted without the balance sheet. I wonder why.

Wewe itisha balance sheet uwekewe

Negative Equity of 4bn including the mandatory convertible note. Which fools (except GoK) will put more money voluntarily into KQ as "ordinary shares"? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#10615 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 10:52:32 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
tandich wrote:
Results seem to have been posted without the balance sheet. I wonder why.

Wewe itisha balance sheet uwekewe

Negative Equity of 4bn including the mandatory convertible note. Which fools (except GoK) will put more money voluntarily into KQ as "ordinary shares"? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Wewe tutakurudisha shule.. KQLC signed up a guarantee backed by GoK for additional lending as and when needed. Nothing to do with the MCN

KQ ABP 4.26
Ericsson
#10616 Posted: : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:05:23 PM
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Kq needs to quicken growth of revenue to double digits or abt 8-9% not the 3.1% we saw in HY2018.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#10617 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:08:17 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Kq needs to quicken growth of revenue to double digits or abt 8-9% not the 3.1% we saw in HY2018.

It's coming chief

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#10618 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2018 1:08:42 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
tandich wrote:
Results seem to have been posted without the balance sheet. I wonder why.

Wewe itisha balance sheet uwekewe

Negative Equity of 4bn including the mandatory convertible note. Which fools (except GoK) will put more money voluntarily into KQ as "ordinary shares"? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Wewe tutakurudisha shule.. KQLC signed up a guarantee backed by GoK for additional lending as and when needed. Nothing to do with the MCN

1) Loans not Equity.
2) Mandatory not voluntarily.

Some of the smart "foreign" banks stayed away from KQ. I wonder if local banks were forced to lend to KQ.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#10619 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2018 5:58:50 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
tandich wrote:
Results seem to have been posted without the balance sheet. I wonder why.

Wewe itisha balance sheet uwekewe

Negative Equity of 4bn including the mandatory convertible note. Which fools (except GoK) will put more money voluntarily into KQ as "ordinary shares"? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Wewe tutakurudisha shule.. KQLC signed up a guarantee backed by GoK for additional lending as and when needed. Nothing to do with the MCN

1) Loans not Equity.
2) Mandatory not voluntarily.

Some of the smart "foreign" banks stayed away from KQ. I wonder if local banks were forced to lend to KQ.

IFC holds KQ shares and defended it's rights in the immediate past issue

KQ ABP 4.26
ArrestedDev
#10620 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:25:53 AM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kq needs to quicken growth of revenue to double digits or abt 8-9% not the 3.1% we saw in HY2018.

It's coming chief


Yes but it will take time. Initially JFK will lead to higher operating costs i.e. loss making route until breakeven/ scale down if passengers numbers does not pick up.

This route is also dependent on other new routes.

However,under Mikosz leadership you can see highlights that can shift the tide to propel the KQ flight to a safe landing in the black (profit zone)e.g. cheaper and easy available parts and maintenance contract with Boeing,new menu, new routes, new codeshare agreements, savings if the engineers are finally shown the door and many more which could not have been possible under Ngunze.

@maka, can you confirm that the suspended engineers will be finally terminated after the recent court of appeal ruling?



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