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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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 Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Quote:Revenue FLAT
Gross Profit 6.5% DOWN
PAT 40% DOWN
EPS 46% DOWN Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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Tough times for local firms. At least the 1H 2018 > 2H 2017 but a lot needs to be done. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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I am also in this bus ABP 3.60. I am happy it is a profit though earnings are small(3%) it still a profit. Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/22/2015 Posts: 224 Location: Mombasa, Kenya
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VituVingiSana wrote:Tough times for local firms.
At least the 1H 2018 > 2H 2017 but a lot needs to be done. Still reeling from the effects of Nakumatt's collapse. A key sales channel and over 800m lost there. Start!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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In my prayers
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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Lakini, it is profitable. Please help FTGH out by asking KQ to buy peanuts and liquid soap from FTGH. And ask those FAs to buy Suzie cosmetics. Of course, KQ to pay cash. No credit.  Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Lakini, it is profitable. Please help FTGH out by asking KQ to buy peanuts and liquid soap from FTGH. And ask those FAs to buy Suzie cosmetics. Of course, KQ to pay cash. No credit. Cool
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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this man has never shared any penny with investors "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2007 Posts: 767
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Down to 3 bob. Pesa ya tropical peremende. They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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tom_boy wrote:Down to 3 bob. Pesa ya tropical peremende. He needs to learn from KQ and do a 4:1 Reverse Split so the price increases to 12/-! At 3/-, FTGH is not even in the lowest 10. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Lakini some of these shares whoever buys them is to blame & shoulders responsibility full. Cc. ARM  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:Lakini some of these shares whoever buys them is to blame & shoulders responsibility full. Cc. ARM Please speak nicely to @vvs @fyatu .. Be kind. both are victims at ARM and now this nyani too
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Lakini some of these shares whoever buys them is to blame & shoulders responsibility full. Cc. ARM Please speak nicely to @vvs @fyatu .. Be kind. both are victims at ARM and now this nyani too No stress since we are not investing in a business that flies at 40% capacity! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Lakini some of these shares whoever buys them is to blame & shoulders responsibility full. Cc. ARM Please speak nicely to @vvs @fyatu .. Be kind. both are victims at ARM and now this nyani too Monkeys are ok so long as they are not more than 10% of the portfolio. By monkeys I mean companies that are not profitable, don't pay dividends or have management issues. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/8/2018 Posts: 507 Location: Nairobi
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I don’t get the bile against FTGH.
- Well managed firm
- Simple, clear businesses in its portfolio
- Expanding
- Profitable
Which is way more than you can say about most NSE companies. Not giving out dividend but instead ploughing back the proceeds into growing the company and shareholder value is better than dishing them out then taking up more debt or calling for a rights issue.
Falling price? Hello…blood is everywhere this bear season.
“Price is what you pay, value is what you get”
I'd argue that at the current price FTGH is a buy and hold.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Lakini some of these shares whoever buys them is to blame & shoulders responsibility full. Cc. ARM Please speak nicely to @vvs @fyatu .. Be kind. both are victims at ARM and now this nyani too Monkeys are ok so long as they are not more than 10% of the portfolio. By monkeys I mean companies that are not profitable, don't pay dividends or have management issues. FTGH is substantially less than 10% of my portfolio BUT do all 3 conditions have to apply? it is profitable it did not pay a dividend for FY17 it doesn't seem to have a management issue Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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rwitre wrote:I don’t get the bile against FTGH.
- Well managed firm
- Simple, clear businesses in its portfolio
- Expanding
- Profitable
Which is way more than you can say about most NSE companies. Not giving out dividend but instead ploughing back the proceeds into growing the company and shareholder value is better than dishing them out then taking up more debt or calling for a rights issue.
Falling price? Hello…blood is everywhere this bear season.
“Price is what you pay, value is what you get”
I'd argue that at the current price FTGH is a buy and hold.
 I am out of cash until the next set of dividends come in and/or Rubis sends me a chq. Currently it is one of Tier 3 investments for me but one worth looking at in the future. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/8/2018 Posts: 507 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:rwitre wrote:I don’t get the bile against FTGH.
- Well managed firm
- Simple, clear businesses in its portfolio
- Expanding
- Profitable
Which is way more than you can say about most NSE companies. Not giving out dividend but instead ploughing back the proceeds into growing the company and shareholder value is better than dishing them out then taking up more debt or calling for a rights issue.
Falling price? Hello…blood is everywhere this bear season.
“Price is what you pay, value is what you get”
I'd argue that at the current price FTGH is a buy and hold.
I am out of cash until the next set of dividends come in and/or Rubis sends me a chq. Currently it is one of Tier 3 investments for me but one worth looking at in the future. Interesting...FTGH hasn't traded a single share this week. Insiders totally refusing to sell. Weak hands shaken out? Signs of a bottom?
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