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Stanbic Holdings HY18
Pesa Nane
#1 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 12:07:50 PM
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Pesa Nane
#2 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 12:10:37 PM
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Interim Dividend Kshs. 2.25

Payable 28 Sept 2018
Closure 10 Sept 2018
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Pesa Nane
#3 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 12:12:09 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
PAT up 105% from ksh.1.7bn to 3.6bn.
Net interest income up 12%


No wonder they want to buy minority shareholders!!!

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Pesa Nane
#4 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 12:14:01 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Hah!

Wajanja.

1) SAHL bought out some of the minority shareholders in/around July 2018 and thus didn't even give them the FY 2017 dividend. The benefits of the funds used to generate profits in FY 2017 were not passed along!
2) Then SAHL also screwed them over for 1H 2018's dividend. Same story.

Now I wait for Unga!


Share price today trading at 98

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KulaRaha
#5 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 12:42:44 PM
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Beware the outlier bucking a trend.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
madebe
#6 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 12:47:51 PM
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Anybody has received dividends?? payment date was today 10th August 2018
tandich
#7 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 12:51:46 PM
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What is the story behind the impairments?
VituVingiSana
#8 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 1:36:26 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Hah!

Wajanja.

1) SAHL bought out some of the minority shareholders in/around July 2018 and thus didn't even give them the FY 2017 dividend. The benefits of the funds used to generate profits in FY 2017 were not passed along!
2) Then SAHL also screwed them over for 1H 2018's dividend. Same story.

Now I wait for Unga!


Share price today trading at 98


I am glad I held onto mine. A 5/- dividend + 98 versus those who sold out.
They knew the inside story. They had the numbers. They knew what NPLs were going to be resolved/reversed.

Similar situation with Seaboard and Victus given they know the sales and profits for 2H 2018 while the Buyout attempt was ongoing.
The Valuation Report done in 2013 was done by Lloyd Masika (Ndegwa firm) and they would know what the value of the properties are in 2018.

I will hold onto Stanbic for now.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mwekez@ji
#9 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 3:23:23 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Beware the outlier bucking a trend.

sparkly
#10 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 10:34:04 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Be jealous the outlier bucking a trend.

Life is short. Live passionately.
Ericsson
#11 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2018 9:33:33 AM
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Upishi of results on another level
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
sparkly
#12 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2018 12:32:35 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Upishi of results on another level


Tuko Sebuleni tunangoja Starters.
Life is short. Live passionately.
mwekez@ji
#13 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2018 10:11:14 AM
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sparkly wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Be jealous the outlier bucking a trend.


Mastermind
#14 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2018 11:32:41 AM
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Loans to customers were up 16
per cent to Sh136 billion. Cheap
loans to directors, however, shot
up from Sh937 million to Sh5.1
billion.

https://www.standardmedi...e-than-doubles-to-sh3-4b
If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is where they should be. Now put the foundations under them.
VituVingiSana
#15 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2018 1:36:45 PM
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Mastermind wrote:
Loans to customers were up 16
per cent to Sh136 billion. Cheap
loans to directors, however, shot
up from Sh937 million to Sh5.1
billion.


https://www.standardmedi...-than-doubles-to-sh3-4b

It's a free market but I wish Minority Shareholders had held onto their shares instead of selling that at 95 (incl the FY 2017 dividend) to SAHL.

If Stanbic can make 15/- (EPS) then at 90 that was 6x PER which is "cheap" in my book. Within 2018, the DY would be a decent 7.5% which is better than 1-year FDR from most banks including Stanbic.

I am pragmatic. I expect to sell out of Stanbic in the future when SAHL comes calling but they need to pay a fair price not 6x PER or 0.9x BV.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#16 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2018 2:01:12 PM
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Mastermind wrote:
Loans to customers were up 16
per cent to Sh136 billion. Cheap
loans to directors, however, shot
up from Sh937 million to Sh5.1
billion.

https://www.standardmedi...-than-doubles-to-sh3-4b


Hiyo inaitwa shafting the shareholders
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
chikonde
#17 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2018 2:22:28 PM
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Interim received pap!
mlennyma
#18 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2018 2:29:17 PM
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chikonde wrote:
Interim received pap!

how soon?
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
VituVingiSana
#19 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2018 2:33:10 PM
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They sent me the docs. I went through them. I pulled up 1Q results for Stanbic Bank. Took a look. I looked through the tender form. And promptly tossed it out.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Superprime1
#20 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2018 3:06:46 PM
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chikonde wrote:
Interim received pap!

How now? Isn't book closure set for September 10th? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Shame on you Shame on you
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