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#21 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:30:16 PM
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mkeiyd wrote:
A Michuki on those "youths" will do it for me.


He must be turning in his grave and wondering if we have any men left in our leadership.
Lord, thank you!
eduu
#22 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:34:25 PM
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Just look at the advert on this site

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#23 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:44:00 PM
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eduu wrote:
Just look at the advert on this site

http://soccernet.espn.go...e?id=252531&cc=3888

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I think its been removed
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#24 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2012 11:54:35 PM
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In Egypt many christians have lost their lifes recently...killed by muslims.

This has happened recently also in Nigeria where many christians particularly in the north have been killed.

I was in Khartoum some years ago when a church was attached right in the city and 2 christians died after a grenade explosion.

Same is happening in Indonesia and other countries.

There is no MRC and al shabaab there.

100% of all those who were involved in terrorists activities like the bomb blasts in Nairobi, Mombasa, Dar es salaam and Kampala were muslims.

And you want to tell me that Islam is a religion of peace? Tell that to the birds.

Why are churches not allowed in Saudi arabia? Why can't you be allowed to carry a bible into saudi arabia?
scout_boy
#25 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:57:49 AM
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The issue of crusades keeps coming up every now and then in similar circumstances.However,things need to analyzed soberly.Before the Islamic invasion of Arabian Peninsula and North Africa Christendom was largely peaceful.


The fall of great empires to the arabic invaders such as Persian and Indian empires etc made the white man to come up with the crusades.

If Europe would have gone down ,the whole world would have been lost.



Now am not saying we start a religious war.
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#26 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2012 7:51:55 AM
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My biggest issue with the Kenyan Muslim community is that they whine a lot. Dare touch a suspect who is Muslim and you face a backlash from the numerous groups that fight for their welfare. If we had such activism from the Gikuyu and Sabaot we could be having very huge headache with Mungiki and SLDF.
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#27 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:31:24 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
My biggest issue with the Kenyan Muslim community is that they whine a lot. Dare touch a suspect who is Muslim and you face a backlash from the numerous groups that fight for their welfare. If we had such activism from the Gikuyu and Sabaot we could be having very huge headache with Mungiki and SLDF.

True
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#28 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:24:14 AM
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Rahatupu wrote:
Elder wrote:
harrydre wrote:
well statistics show a majority of terrorists are muslims, just same way Mawe FC is dominantly Luo and Mungiki is mostly Kikuyu so let's cut the crap here...most muslims are good people and islam as a faith is okay, however there is a small section like the MRC/Alshabaab that want to start a religious war in Mombasa & NEP. We must condemn them and refuse to take part in this. These are cowards and their power is coming to an end soon. We don't want to go Nigeria or Middle East route.

Totally agree; nothing further to add.


This the moment of truth to know who stands on whose side. Those for terrorists and whose for peace. Recall; you are either with us or with the enemy? By Bush?

It is never that black and white. I pray you are not agreeing with that self serving quote from Bush.
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#29 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:50:11 AM
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Someone is very intent on starting a fire in Kenya and all the leadership does is read statements from podiums in Nairobi and take choppers to see the aftermath!!!! This is very disturbing!!!
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#30 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:14:03 AM
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Elder wrote:
Rahatupu wrote:
Elder wrote:
harrydre wrote:
well statistics show a majority of terrorists are muslims, just same way Mawe FC is dominantly Luo and Mungiki is mostly Kikuyu so let's cut the crap here...most muslims are good people and islam as a faith is okay, however there is a small section like the MRC/Alshabaab that want to start a religious war in Mombasa & NEP. We must condemn them and refuse to take part in this. These are cowards and their power is coming to an end soon. We don't want to go Nigeria or Middle East route.

Totally agree; nothing further to add.


This the moment of truth to know who stands on whose side. Those for terrorists and whose for peace. Recall; you are either with us or with the enemy? By Bush?

It is never that black and white. I pray you are not agreeing with that self serving quote from Bush.


I personally agree with the statement fully
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#31 Posted : Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:57:57 AM
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this is nothing to do with muslims and christians. its simply politics like the violence in the tana delta. our government and courts are allowing the mrc to operate and accepting their crazy theories on the one hand, and condemning the violence on the other. weed out these radicals and the problems will be solved including that of al-shababists. what we are showing is that we are defenceless. countries can take over land in our borders i.e. sudan, ethiopia and uganda without us uttering a single word. our population can be targetted by fundamentalists like mrc/ al shabbab without expecting protection.
Njunge
#32 Posted : Saturday, July 28, 2018 11:24:02 AM
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Unaona ujinga???......Why did the Nation publish such a useless article in the first place?Sad

https://www.nation.co.ke...85544-9hjo1bz/index.html
AlphDoti
#33 Posted : Saturday, July 28, 2018 12:41:54 PM
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Although it is not a must, but remember an emissary's mission is usually to negotiate or to gather information. So in my opinion it is best to send an emissary to a people whom he can associate with. For example a president sends a trusted emissary to a war-torn region to discuss peace terms. Take for example sending a Muslim ambassador to Vatican? Yes, he will carry out his job, but at a limited perspective. But it is not a must.

So apart from professional experience, an ambassador will be more effective if he understands the languages spoken, the culture, etc etc.

So this is something to put into consideration unless the only objective is to rewards his friends, then you can pick anyone and randomly send
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#34 Posted : Saturday, July 28, 2018 1:32:27 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Although it is not a must, but remember an emissary's mission is usually to negotiate or to gather information. So in my opinion it is best to send an emissary to a people whom he can associate with. For example a president sends a trusted emissary to a war-torn region to discuss peace terms. Take for example sending a Muslim ambassador to Vatican? Yes, he will carry out his job, but at a limited perspective. But it is not a must.

So apart from professional experience, an ambassador will be more effective if he understands the languages spoken, the culture, etc etc.

So this is something to put into consideration unless the only objective is to rewards his friends, then you can pick anyone and randomly send


Bullshiet! So you have no problem when muslims are posted as ambassadors to xtian nations but now you complain when a non muslim is sent to saudi? Kwanza huyo Yusuf Nzibo who is shouting loudest never complained when he was ambassador to the christian US. Why didnt he refuse to go to the US then and demand to be taken to muslim countries?
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