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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/13/2016 Posts: 47 Location: kenya
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It seems the more we go digital and embrace banking, the more the government is seeing an opportunity to tax.
I predict that in the next two years, bank deposits, bank withdraws, bank balances, wire transfers (incoming and outgoing) will be the new tax cash cow.
This year, they have set the stage with the robin hood tax. I guarantee next year it will be raised.
These tax streams will be the new cigarettes and beer tax. Every year the tax rate will go up. Mercilessly.
I have decided to be proactive and invest in a very very strong safe and put some cash inside. Fireproof, thief proof, everything proof. Anyone have any good make and models for home use? This way I don't have to deal with these myriad of taxes that I am sure are in pipeline.
If I transfer money, it is using my own hands.
Note: I am not a tendepreneur. Just trying to legally avoid useless taxes. Keeping cash at home is not illegal.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,516 Location: nairobi
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mikanjoroge wrote:It seems the more we go digital and embrace banking, the more the government is seeing an opportunity to tax.
I predict that in the next two years, bank deposits, bank withdraws, bank balances, wire transfers (incoming and outgoing) will be the new tax cash cow.
This year, they have set the stage with the robin hood tax. I guarantee next year it will be raised.
These tax streams will be the new cigarettes and beer tax. Every year the tax rate will go up. Mercilessly.
I have decided to be proactive and invest in a very very strong safe and put some cash inside. Fireproof, thief proof, everything proof. Anyone have any good make and models for home use? This way I don't have to deal with these myriad of taxes that I am sure are in pipeline.
If I transfer money, it is using my own hands.
Note: I am not a tendepreneur. Just trying to legally avoid useless taxes. Keeping cash at home is not illegal. Chubb are good HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/8/2018 Posts: 507 Location: Nairobi
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mikanjoroge wrote:It seems the more we go digital and embrace banking, the more the government is seeing an opportunity to tax.
I predict that in the next two years, bank deposits, bank withdraws, bank balances, wire transfers (incoming and outgoing) will be the new tax cash cow.
This year, they have set the stage with the robin hood tax. I guarantee next year it will be raised.
These tax streams will be the new cigarettes and beer tax. Every year the tax rate will go up. Mercilessly.
I have decided to be proactive and invest in a very very strong safe and put some cash inside. Fireproof, thief proof, everything proof. Anyone have any good make and models for home use? This way I don't have to deal with these myriad of taxes that I am sure are in pipeline.
If I transfer money, it is using my own hands.
Note: I am not a tendepreneur. Just trying to legally avoid useless taxes. Keeping cash at home is not illegal. Might I suggest an alternative to the safe: Bitcoin? Your wallet, your coins. -Secure. -Accessible from anywhere in the world. -No government can take it from you. -Inflation won't eat it. -Transact directly using it or convert to local currencies when the need arises. Yes, daily price fluctuations will put you on edge. However, as a long term store of value, your funds are safe. The home safe has its pros/cons list too, but decision is yours.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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mikanjoroge wrote:It seems the more we go digital and embrace banking, the more the government is seeing an opportunity to tax.
I predict that in the next two years, bank deposits, bank withdraws, bank balances, wire transfers (incoming and outgoing) will be the new tax cash cow.
This year, they have set the stage with the robin hood tax. I guarantee next year it will be raised.
These tax streams will be the new cigarettes and beer tax. Every year the tax rate will go up. Mercilessly.
I have decided to be proactive and invest in a very very strong safe and put some cash inside. Fireproof, thief proof, everything proof. Anyone have any good make and models for home use? This way I don't have to deal with these myriad of taxes that I am sure are in pipeline.
If I transfer money, it is using my own hands.
Note: I am not a tendepreneur. Just trying to legally avoid useless taxes. Keeping cash at home is not illegal. If you show me you cash, I can customize a safe for you If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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mikanjoroge wrote:It seems the more we go digital and embrace banking, the more the government is seeing an opportunity to tax.
I predict that in the next two years, bank deposits, bank withdraws, bank balances, wire transfers (incoming and outgoing) will be the new tax cash cow.
This year, they have set the stage with the robin hood tax. I guarantee next year it will be raised.
These tax streams will be the new cigarettes and beer tax. Every year the tax rate will go up. Mercilessly.
I have decided to be proactive and invest in a very very strong safe and put some cash inside. Fireproof, thief proof, everything proof. Anyone have any good make and models for home use? This way I don't have to deal with these myriad of taxes that I am sure are in pipeline.
If I transfer money, it is using my own hands.
Note: I am not a tendepreneur. Just trying to legally avoid useless taxes. Keeping cash at home is not illegal. Welcome to Bitcoin, my fren Safes are another shortcut to Makueni
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/29/2008 Posts: 571
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Mika Njoroge: and where is the location of your home??
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Ali Baba wrote:Mika Njoroge: and where is the location of your home?? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/25/2012 Posts: 1,624 Location: Langley
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Ali Baba wrote:Mika Njoroge: and where is the location of your home?? Ali baba and forty thieves. If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is where they should be. Now put the foundations under them.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/8/2018 Posts: 73
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Your choices are clear. Pay Robin Hood Tax or Robbing da Hood Alibabas. Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/13/2016 Posts: 47 Location: kenya
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Pesa Nane wrote:Your choices are clear. Pay Robin Hood Tax or Robbing da Hood Alibabas. As much as I detest it, I can stomach the initial robin hood tax of 0.05 on 500,000 and above. But I know this is just KRA's "introductory offer". I am certain that in the next fiscal year, they will either/or: 1.) Reduce the amount to 400K and above transfers to capture more transfers. 2.) Increase the tax from 0.05 to 0.06. They will repeat this process every year, like they do with beer, cigarettes and vehicle taxes. So I just want to organize myself ahead of time. You too will follow. Trust me. MPESA won't be spared either.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/11/2006 Posts: 2,304
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mikanjoroge wrote:It seems the more we go digital and embrace banking, the more the government is seeing an opportunity to tax.
I predict that in the next two years, bank deposits, bank withdraws, bank balances, wire transfers (incoming and outgoing) will be the new tax cash cow.
This year, they have set the stage with the robin hood tax. I guarantee next year it will be raised.
These tax streams will be the new cigarettes and beer tax. Every year the tax rate will go up. Mercilessly.
I have decided to be proactive and invest in a very very strong safe and put some cash inside. Fireproof, thief proof, everything proof. Anyone have any good make and models for home use? This way I don't have to deal with these myriad of taxes that I am sure are in pipeline.
If I transfer money, it is using my own hands.
Note: I am not a tendepreneur. Just trying to legally avoid useless taxes. Keeping cash at home is not illegal. CASH is king now. I wholly endorse! Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/29/2008 Posts: 571
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Pesa Nane wrote:Your choices are clear. Pay Robin Hood Tax or Robbing da Hood Alibabas. Exactly.pay the damn tax or you get visitors at night.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/30/2010 Posts: 183 Location: Migingo
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Suppose you invest in Bitcoins and you pass on. Who takes over the custody of your wealth, ama itaenda cloud? Don't Work for Money, Let Money Work for You..
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/13/2016 Posts: 47 Location: kenya
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Ali Baba wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Your choices are clear. Pay Robin Hood Tax or Robbing da Hood Alibabas. Exactly.pay the damn tax or you get visitors at night. The day for the safe has arrived. This tax will go up every year by MINIMUM 1-2 %.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,516 Location: nairobi
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georgegop wrote:Suppose you invest in Bitcoins and you pass on. Who takes over the custody of your wealth, ama itaenda cloud? Good question HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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obiero wrote:georgegop wrote:Suppose you invest in Bitcoins and you pass on. Who takes over the custody of your wealth, ama itaenda cloud? Good question Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general gives you control over your wealth. Legislation is in the technology, so if you need one to take up cunstory of anything, just give them he keys and credentials to them. Or else they will be lost and the price factored into the existing ones by value and not number. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/12/2009 Posts: 312
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mikanjoroge wrote:Ali Baba wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:Your choices are clear. Pay Robin Hood Tax or Robbing da Hood Alibabas. Exactly.pay the damn tax or you get visitors at night. The day for the safe has arrived. This tax will go up every year by MINIMUM 1-2 %. Mikan, Please update those of us not in the know...
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/27/2016 Posts: 274 Location: Pub
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if this will be coming in to effect many will need a Strong Safe, wanabiashara kaput!! I work so I can afford the amount of alcohol required to continue going to work
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Dear Customer, In line with the Finance Act 2018, the Excise Duty payable on the fees charged for money transfer services and other fees charged by Banks has increased from 10% to 20% effective 1st July 2018. The Bank will collect the Excise Duty as from 1st July, 2018 and remit it to the Kenya Revenue Authority. For more information call us. Thank you.
Ok, I'm not calling them, don't want them to know I don't know. Someone please explain this for me. I received the above sms from my bank. So they'll be taking my 20% of transaction fee for every transfer I make and withdrawals (Atm etc) ama? And these backdated to July 1st,they think they will rob it from whose account? BBI will solve it :)
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