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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,318 Location: nairobi
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Swenani wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:sparkly wrote:KulaRaha wrote:sparkly wrote:@Kularaha do you know people people even borrow at 10% per month to close cashflow gaps? 21% rate of return in this market is simply black magic.. For this discussion, I define cash flow gap as the difference between the timing of cash inflows and outflows. ... For profitable operations, the financing of a cash flow gap is temporary in nature and is effectively bridge financing where the beginning and the end of a cash flow gap is clearly defined. http://blog.businessfina...apital-bridge-financing Ok you win. Demonstrate to us how your own business is faring. You were doing so well until......  I will continue if I get a retainer from Cytonn  They have now changed the name of Cytonn Cash Management to Cytonn High Yield.. What's in a name? Your guess is as good as mine Btw Nabo/Centum also has a CMS type of product for the real estate business. They pay interest at 21% but it is only available to managed account investors with KShs 50m or more. 21% rate of return in this market is simply black magic Shida ya kuzoea negative returns in KQ Do you want to say that the guys who take loans at +15% p.a are making losses or how are they able to pay off the loan+interest, pay operational costs and still make a profit? @swenani list any company even in the financial services sector currently trading at the NSE which managed to increase its year on year profit by more than 10%, without stripping off its assets COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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obiero wrote:Swenani wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:sparkly wrote:KulaRaha wrote:sparkly wrote:@Kularaha do you know people people even borrow at 10% per month to close cashflow gaps? 21% rate of return in this market is simply black magic.. For this discussion, I define cash flow gap as the difference between the timing of cash inflows and outflows. ... For profitable operations, the financing of a cash flow gap is temporary in nature and is effectively bridge financing where the beginning and the end of a cash flow gap is clearly defined. http://blog.businessfina...apital-bridge-financing Ok you win. Demonstrate to us how your own business is faring. You were doing so well until...... I will continue if I get a retainer from Cytonn They have now changed the name of Cytonn Cash Management to Cytonn High Yield.. What's in a name? Your guess is as good as mine Btw Nabo/Centum also has a CMS type of product for the real estate business. They pay interest at 21% but it is only available to managed account investors with KShs 50m or more. 21% rate of return in this market is simply black magic Shida ya kuzoea negative returns in KQ Do you want to say that the guys who take loans at +15% p.a are making losses or how are they able to pay off the loan+interest, pay operational costs and still make a profit? @swenani list any company even in the financial services sector currently trading at the NSE which managed to increase its year on year profit by more than 10%, without stripping off its assets Cytonn If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Swenani wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:sparkly wrote:KulaRaha wrote:sparkly wrote:@Kularaha do you know people people even borrow at 10% per month to close cashflow gaps? 21% rate of return in this market is simply black magic.. For this discussion, I define cash flow gap as the difference between the timing of cash inflows and outflows. ... For profitable operations, the financing of a cash flow gap is temporary in nature and is effectively bridge financing where the beginning and the end of a cash flow gap is clearly defined. http://blog.businessfina...apital-bridge-financing Ok you win. Demonstrate to us how your own business is faring. You were doing so well until...... I will continue if I get a retainer from Cytonn They have now changed the name of Cytonn Cash Management to Cytonn High Yield.. What's in a name? Your guess is as good as mine Btw Nabo/Centum also has a CMS type of product for the real estate business. They pay interest at 21% but it is only available to managed account investors with KShs 50m or more. 21% rate of return in this market is simply black magic Shida ya kuzoea negative returns in KQ Do you want to say that the guys who take loans at +15% p.a are making losses or how are they able to pay off the loan+interest, pay operational costs and still make a profit? @swenani list any company even in the financial services sector currently trading at the NSE which managed to increase its year on year profit by more than 10%, without stripping off its assets Pick any credible bank in Kenya they have averaged more than your 10% in the long term
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/19/2016 Posts: 204
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,937
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These mzungus will make noise & delay the project but eventually it will be built. Unfortunately for them, this is Kenya. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi
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I’ve pointed this out severally...why is it that paulkimani only posts in Cytonn forum? What is ur agenda? Since u like twits https://mobile.twitter.c...tatus/986233367367528456
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/19/2016 Posts: 204
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Edwin: “might as well call it cavina investments then”, he states after insulting the school for trying to protect its kids from pollution, dust, noise, etc for the next 5 years or so.
Even he seems to think if something isn’t up to standard it should be called an “investment” in his company
No agenda, I’m looking forward to the day it all comes out and then maybe Horton/Edwin will stop complaining I’m a new member or only post in Cytonn forum
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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I passed by their Ridge project in Ridgeways and the site is a beehive of activity.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:I passed by their Ridge project in Ridgeways and the site is a beehive of activity. Went to Alma yesterday. Looks pretty good. They are delayed however by 9months which isn’t too bad from my experience. I have in the past bought houses from different developers who eventually finish 2 years behind schedule. As a real estate investor, I’m quite impressed with the quality and workmanship. I highly recommend anyone to go see for themselves
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/20/2008 Posts: 503
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Horton wrote:hardwood wrote:I passed by their Ridge project in Ridgeways and the site is a beehive of activity. Went to Alma yesterday. Looks pretty good. They are delayed however by 9months which isn’t too bad from my experience. I have in the past bought houses from different developers who eventually finish 2 years behind schedule. As a real estate investor, I’m quite impressed with the quality and workmanship. I highly recommend anyone to go see for themselves I almost felt reassured by your comment as a Wazua veteran...... Right until I read your signature. 
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