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'The queen of Katwe' appears to be based on a part of Bobby Fischer's biography, and for that reason, it's important to say that if the premise of Bobby is true, then this is the worst movie about chess that is for mostly African consumption.
'Searching for Bobby Fischer' is of course another movie that doesn't go deep enough to understand the learning and practice of the game.
And thus leaves an unjustifiably dangerous conception and lesson of what Chess is, and does to a person.
It's as if, when the tradition behind the game was forgotten, then the game was also lost.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:'The queen of Katwe' appears to be based on a part of Bobby Fischer's biography, and for that reason, it's important to say that if the premise of Bobby is true, then this is the worst movie about chess that is for mostly African consumption.
'Searching for Bobby Fischer' is of course another movie that doesn't go deep enough to understand the learning and practice of the game.
And thus leaves an unjustifiably dangerous conception and lesson of what Chess is, and does to a person.
It's as if, when the tradition behind the game was forgotten, then the game was also lost. no.. it's just the story of Phiona Mutesi! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:'The queen of Katwe' appears to be based on a part of Bobby Fischer's biography, and for that reason, it's important to say that if the premise of Bobby is true, then this is the worst movie about chess that is for mostly African consumption.
'Searching for Bobby Fischer' is of course another movie that doesn't go deep enough to understand the learning and practice of the game.
And thus leaves an unjustifiably dangerous conception and lesson of what Chess is, and does to a person.
It's as if, when the tradition behind the game was forgotten, then the game was also lost. no.. it's just the story of Phiona Mutesi! A story can never be about only one person. The movie is also very strong on David Katande, the unsaid 'King of Katwe'.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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So, somewhere in the Katwe movie, 'Coach' says to Phiona, 'Oh!You can see eight moves ahead...'
This to me is an act of violence to the minds of those who are watching, and more so, those who hold the fantasy of being great like Bobby Fischer.
Even a piece of music is played one bar at a time, and the movements in chess are similarly musical.
Such that beauty is only found when four moves are seen ahead and properly executed.
I wonder how the real Phiona experiences life nowadays. Could she also wish to disappear like Bobby did?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:'The queen of Katwe' appears to be based on a part of Bobby Fischer's biography, and for that reason, it's important to say that if the premise of Bobby is true, then this is the worst movie about chess that is for mostly African consumption.
'Searching for Bobby Fischer' is of course another movie that doesn't go deep enough to understand the learning and practice of the game.
And thus leaves an unjustifiably dangerous conception and lesson of what Chess is, and does to a person.
It's as if, when the tradition behind the game was forgotten, then the game was also lost. The Bobby Fischer story is one of the saddest chess stories. Especially considering that he's American. He was treated the way we treat our heroes in Kenya.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:tycho wrote:'The queen of Katwe' appears to be based on a part of Bobby Fischer's biography, and for that reason, it's important to say that if the premise of Bobby is true, then this is the worst movie about chess that is for mostly African consumption.
'Searching for Bobby Fischer' is of course another movie that doesn't go deep enough to understand the learning and practice of the game.
And thus leaves an unjustifiably dangerous conception and lesson of what Chess is, and does to a person.
It's as if, when the tradition behind the game was forgotten, then the game was also lost. The Bobby Fischer story is one of the saddest chess stories. Especially considering that he's American. He was treated the way we treat our heroes in Kenya. Why do people feel entitled? it has been proposed that if you (yourself or a your company) are to be considered valuable - two things must be true. 1 - that it creates "X" dollars of value for the world. 2- that you capture "Y" percent of "X.” It's important to understand that "X" and "Y" are completely independent variables, and so "X" can be very big and "Y" can be very small. "X" can be an intermediate size and if "Y” is reasonably big, you can still have lots of value."X" can also be fairly small but of "Y" is 100% of it - you will still live a decent life. I know of a guy who builds software that does nothing more than create a formula for the stuff that goes into catalytic converters - that's it... just that! he is ever traveling the world. Why? his company delivers value and he cashes on almost all that value back. Airlines and restaurants suffer because they cannot cash in on the value they create because of competition (they compete their profits away) compared to something like safaricom that delivers value and cashes on it. Back to sports - that's where professional footballers get it right and random Olympiads get it wrong - they create lots of value for the world and in that instance extract a percentage of it. Kenyan runners have understood this and they cash in on the value they create - they know where to make money and go for it. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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@Masukuma, chess is not a sport, and in the case of Bobby Fischer, he died and left a decent amount of money and property.
I think @2012 is talking about something else. Something that most of us have lost a sensitivity to, and that is, a person's 'soul'. Each of us is entitled to receive protection and care from the collective.
Most of our heroes are a neglected lot in this dimension.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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At the heart of existence is a and the game. Chess is the King of games and the game of Kings.
Training in knowing this game, takes more than what Bobby did and went through. And there was no one to help him.
When one looks at the history of Chess, and especially modern chess one notices something eery. It is very easy for most scholars - because it takes great scholarship for this game- to get serious mental illnesses.
Is this a coincidence?
Chess is a dangerous game, and making it a sport and simple source of revenue and amusement is a fatal mistake.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Mtu Biz wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=ZjSnqj6Esbk Interestingly, blind fold chess has an old history. Around 700 CE Arab, and Muslim scholars were doing blind fold games. Why is blind folding important in the history of chess?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Here's a probable leak behind the game of chess as per now... https://kevinspraggetton...-re-shaped-world-chess/
It's very probable that Krylenko was of Jewish descent...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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We now have a reason behind blind fold chess and it's 'insanity connection'. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-25560162
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Chess vs GoAll Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Yes, there has been a recent interest in the game of go, and I've tried to answer this question in the past. When I look at the literature concerning the philosophy of go, and the philosophy of chess and now from the link I've seen a game called 'Shogi' I realize that there's a great equivalence of fundamental principles. Most of the people responding in the link provided appear to be low to middle level players of either game who are likely to be bent on the 'fun' part. Many of the attributes they have supplied for go are in chess. Even the distribution of force and strategy across space - which I consider the best point in the link - is in chess. A game of chess can have multiple strategies. A major difference between the two games would appear to be that of world view. But that's an issue I realize to be squarely contingent on the comparable histories of the cultures supporting each of the games. Right now the west and it's savage competitiveness appears less appealing than Eastern philosophies. But that's only because for most of the western civilization there has been a breakdown in tradition.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Phiona, is supposed to be the King of her soul. I have a feeling that this is something that few want for her.
But I hope she one day realizes that she's also the King.
Bobby indeed, asserted that he was King. But his queen, the integral queen of the soul space, was deeply frustrated.
And this deep frustration expressed itself in his anti-semitism. Anti- government. His battle with FIDE.
Phiona can only become a true hero when she finds Fischer and eats him up. When she eats her parents up.
Fischer Katwe in the end, is someone I have eaten.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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A gem from H.E Bird Quote:We may feel a little
surprised to hear that Chosroes’ chess men were worth an amount
equivalent to one million of our money in the present day; we
may doubt, or disagree with the opinions attributed to Hippocrates,
or to Galen; that cures were effected, or even assisted of
such complaints as diarrhea and erysipelas by the means of chess;
or, that, as the Persian suggests it has been found a remedy of
beneficial in many ailments from the heart ache to the tooth ache. I can't doubt it folks!
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