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Real Estate in Kenya
Wororo
#31 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 1:15:33 PM
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Ngogoyo
#32 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 2:48:22 PM
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Wororo
#33 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2018 4:09:12 PM
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Ngogoyo, thank you for the piece... I was asking for a friend...
guru me
#34 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 11:56:15 AM
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wukan wrote:
Superwoman910 wrote:
Hi Wazuans, I am thinking of investing in the real estate sector. The thing is that there is a lot of mix up from reports about its current status, i.e., whether the returns are good and worth it, or not. What do you guys think?
Real estate in kenya is the accumulation of dead assets in the hope it will serve you at a later date. You will rarely get to unlock its full potential in your lifetime(maybe your kids will). It is capital intensive and the returns are only marginally higher than inflation. 5-7% rental yield maybe 5% capital gains. The upkeep of real estate is also expensive. The lack of planning and development control also means you may end up in a slum like neighborhood or a place that resembles a prison/concentration camp(barbed wire, guards and dogs). The current status looks like the tail end of a boom cycle most landlords are not getting the asking rent, lots of vacancies in retail and commercial space and defaulting tenants. However Kenyan real estate has lots of potential most of the land is under-developed and underutilized.
The biggest problem with Kenyan real estate is the lack of data to objectively analyse returns. Claiming yields are 5-7% is over simplifying the issue. Real estate returns vary wildly between sectors. My suspicion is that for commercial grade investments, the malls, office space etc, the risk adjusted returns would be rather low and unlikely to keep up with or beat inflation. However, sectors such as short term rentals, and low income resi would likely outperform any equity portfolio there is. Personally, have some rental property generating net rental yields in excess of 20% with very little volatility in the rental income over lat 4 years. My risk adjusted returns are off the charts to say the least. However, I do note that real estate is also very cyclical and supply tends to overshoot demand. ie When there is great demand for real estate, it takes a while for the stock to be developed and delivered to market. Most investors will view this demand in isolation of the stock being developed and will they themselves start creating their own stock. When the supply finally hits the market, there is oversupply leading to a down cycle. Eventually, the demand will match supply and the cycle repeats. If you know how to read these cycles, you can do really well.\ That being said, research shows that the real estate should constitute at least 40% of a diversified portfolio consisting of equities bonds etc.
wukan
#35 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 1:14:12 PM
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guru me wrote:
wukan wrote:
Superwoman910 wrote:
Hi Wazuans, I am thinking of investing in the real estate sector. The thing is that there is a lot of mix up from reports about its current status, i.e., whether the returns are good and worth it, or not. What do you guys think?
Real estate in kenya is the accumulation of dead assets in the hope it will serve you at a later date. You will rarely get to unlock its full potential in your lifetime(maybe your kids will). It is capital intensive and the returns are only marginally higher than inflation. 5-7% rental yield maybe 5% capital gains. The upkeep of real estate is also expensive. The lack of planning and development control also means you may end up in a slum like neighborhood or a place that resembles a prison/concentration camp(barbed wire, guards and dogs). The current status looks like the tail end of a boom cycle most landlords are not getting the asking rent, lots of vacancies in retail and commercial space and defaulting tenants. However Kenyan real estate has lots of potential most of the land is under-developed and underutilized.
The biggest problem with Kenyan real estate is the lack of data to objectively analyse returns. Claiming yields are 5-7% is over simplifying the issue. Real estate returns vary wildly between sectors. My suspicion is that for commercial grade investments, the malls, office space etc, the risk adjusted returns would be rather low and unlikely to keep up with or beat inflation. However, sectors such as short term rentals, and low income resi would likely outperform any equity portfolio there is. Personally, have some rental property generating net rental yields in excess of 20% with very little volatility in the rental income over lat 4 years. My risk adjusted returns are off the charts to say the least. However, I do note that real estate is also very cyclical and supply tends to overshoot demand. ie When there is great demand for real estate, it takes a while for the stock to be developed and delivered to market. Most investors will view this demand in isolation of the stock being developed and will they themselves start creating their own stock. When the supply finally hits the market, there is oversupply leading to a down cycle. Eventually, the demand will match supply and the cycle repeats. If you know how to read these cycles, you can do really well.\ That being said, research shows that the real estate should constitute at least 40% of a diversified portfolio consisting of equities bonds etc.
Over 20% where in this economy?? unless you are calculating using historic values or doing the low income areas. A decent middle-class apartment of 7.5m will give monthly rental of 40K which is really 6% yield(over 20% yield means monthly rent of over 125,000d'oh! ). Even the serviced offices usually come to around 12-14% yield which really the yield on a long term GoK bond. Low income residential where you can lose the houses and the land is not exactly investment. The resale value after 20 years will shock you. The real estate cycles are the economic cycles. If you demand yield of over 20% the economy cannot sustain it.
muandiwambeu
#36 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 3:15:29 PM
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wukan wrote:
guru me wrote:
wukan wrote:
Superwoman910 wrote:
Hi Wazuans, I am thinking of investing in the real estate sector. The thing is that there is a lot of mix up from reports about its current status, i.e., whether the returns are good and worth it, or not. What do you guys think?
Real estate in kenya is the accumulation of dead assets in the hope it will serve you at a later date. You will rarely get to unlock its full potential in your lifetime(maybe your kids will). It is capital intensive and the returns are only marginally higher than inflation. 5-7% rental yield maybe 5% capital gains. The upkeep of real estate is also expensive. The lack of planning and development control also means you may end up in a slum like neighborhood or a place that resembles a prison/concentration camp(barbed wire, guards and dogs). The current status looks like the tail end of a boom cycle most landlords are not getting the asking rent, lots of vacancies in retail and commercial space and defaulting tenants. However Kenyan real estate has lots of potential most of the land is under-developed and underutilized.
The biggest problem with Kenyan real estate is the lack of data to objectively analyse returns. Claiming yields are 5-7% is over simplifying the issue. Real estate returns vary wildly between sectors. My suspicion is that for commercial grade investments, the malls, office space etc, the risk adjusted returns would be rather low and unlikely to keep up with or beat inflation. However, sectors such as short term rentals, and low income resi would likely outperform any equity portfolio there is. Personally, have some rental property generating net rental yields in excess of 20% with very little volatility in the rental income over lat 4 years. My risk adjusted returns are off the charts to say the least. However, I do note that real estate is also very cyclical and supply tends to overshoot demand. ie When there is great demand for real estate, it takes a while for the stock to be developed and delivered to market. Most investors will view this demand in isolation of the stock being developed and will they themselves start creating their own stock. When the supply finally hits the market, there is oversupply leading to a down cycle. Eventually, the demand will match supply and the cycle repeats. If you know how to read these cycles, you can do really well.\ That being said, research shows that the real estate should constitute at least 40% of a diversified portfolio consisting of equities bonds etc.
Over 20% where in this economy?? unless you are calculating using historic values or doing the low income areas. A decent middle-class apartment of 7.5m will give monthly rental of 40K which is really 6% yield(over 20% yield means monthly rent of over 125,000d'oh! ). Even the serviced offices usually come to around 12-14% yield which really the yield on a long term GoK bond. Low income residential where you can lose the houses and the land is not exactly investment. The resale value after 20 years will shock you. The real estate cycles are the economic cycles. If you demand yield of over 20% the economy cannot sustain it.
Hapo, umendanganya mercilessly. Who are you trying to hoodwink, your young bro ndio msifanane ama. Liar Liar . Simple math. Let 30% of your capital goes to land, =>7.5*0.3=2.25m very reasonable Balance construct =5.25m Construct bedsitters @ 200k all inclusive Total units=5250/200 Say 26units Let each out at say optimistic @ 3500/= totaling 26*3500=91 clean gs hata uko kwenu ushagu utapata hiyo Most likely 6500/ nairobi uko mwiki ama kasa Totalling 169 sparkling Gssmile Very pessimistic 12000/ buruuuu totalling 312gs, happy mca wa mburoti kwako. Nini wewe @wukan. Kwenu ni wabi hata hesabu ya mburoti inakugweza.Sad Typically, a two bedroom apartment will measure 60 to 100sm, say 80sm, with a modest finishing this will cost 20k each sm such say to rent @ 30k in a modest estate. Pinching the figures down on my Casio scientifically🤒🤒😂😎 gives me 7,500,000/(80*20000)units*30,000 a month totalling 140,625.0/=post kugwaruzwa na fundi. Ety wukan uko shule gani ya hizi hesabu za present future cash flows hile sielewi. 7.5m hiyo sio modest apartment, even the market price for an apartment ukiwa umegongwa, iko chini tu.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
wukan
#37 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 4:02:28 PM
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You missed the discussion with @Mugundaman worth repeating...
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But the reasons why I rejected this route 1. Slummification of entire neighbourhoods (and cities) starts with these buildings. Look at Umoja. Note exactly a great place to raise kids and live a decent life. Some of those apartments are like modern day tombs! Kenyans deserve better. This is why I laud Uhuru's low cost housing agenda. Quality subsidised homes for all. 2. Headaches to the landlord galore. general security issues, Tenant to tenant crime may be rife, eviction problems, blocked drains due to tenants pouring all sorts of plastics and things into the drains, vandalism and constant repairs are no joke. It is as management intensive as it gets and my life is too short to spend all my hours managing all these problems. 3. Cap gains are much lower per annum for these types of structures. What you gain in cash flows you lose big time in cap gains compared to say a guy who buys a 1/4 acre in a leafy area and builds a huge maisonette on it. Bottom line, I would take decent 2br and 3 br flats, as well as 4+ br maisonettes any day over 1br blocks of flats despite the cash flows. Kenyans, seriously ask yourselves, do we want the whole country to look like this (below). If we are not careful, bila planning, that is the direction we are headed in.
Where in Nairobi is Mwiki?
Angelica _ann
#38 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 4:22:53 PM
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Where in Nairobi can you 'buy/built' a house/flat for Kshs. 7.5m and get rent of 40k? Which neighborhood is that?
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wukan
#39 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 4:32:28 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Where in Nairobi can you 'buy/built' a house/flat for Kshs. 7.5m and get rent of 40k? Which neighborhood is that?
I was illustrating yield not marketing a particular real estate. Anyway since you askedsmile
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A mixed use building with unique studio furnished apartments with stylish interiors and furnishings. These beautiful apartments are a vision of modern originality. The apartments are equipped with a spacious bedroom space designed to be a peaceful retreat for your next stay in Nairobi Kenya. Its an ideal opportunity for an investor to earn a good return on their investment. Location: Kirinyaga Road Apartments: 63 Studio apartments Features: high quality Kone lift, large water reserves, fire detection, the apartments are also on a 24-hour alarm backup with CCTV surveillance. Price: Studio apartment 5M Rental Income: Kshs. 40,000 unfurnished. Kshs. 50,000 furnished.
Wakanyugi
#40 Posted : Tuesday, July 03, 2018 4:36:06 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Where in Nairobi can you 'buy/built' a house/flat for Kshs. 7.5m and get rent of 40k? Which neighborhood is that?
Hi ni gumu kidogo and returns usually depend on local demand which is hard to generalize. For instance I know a company in Kibiku that builds 3 bed maisonettes for around 7.5M and the rent is 40K. But this is a factor of the demand brought about by the Shinese constructing the SGR.
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