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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
obiero
#10251 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 4:36:50 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,216
Location: nairobi
Carol Musyoka (Musyoka's daughter), Esther Koimett(Biwott's daughter) and Dr Oduor(self made) join the KQ Board

KQ ABP 4.26
murchr
#10252 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 4:48:42 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
obiero wrote:
Carol Musyoka (Musyoka's daughter), Esther Koimett(Biwott's daughter) and Dr Oduor(self made) join the KQ Board


Musyoka who? Koimett on behalf of treasury
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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muandiwambeu
#10253 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 5:19:09 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
Watch and learn..


A list of guys in a deep hole. Just because they have agreed to stop digging, does not mean they have a way out of the mess. Just because a driver as realised that a vehicle's brakes have failed does not imply a method to stop it down hill is devised, he may opt to abandon it and jump out as well.

That's a very negative attitude. With a peaceful election, expect a phoenix moment


One time you own 9.56% of a company then overnight you have 0.5%! If that is not shafting, i dont know what is.

I believe that the restructure as explained in this document is the best way out for KQ..


You own a 10 bedroom palace. Your neighbor takes over the palace but lets you keep the bathroom. The palace is indifferent but Mrs Obiero will not be amused, donge?

Hehe. Omera. That's a nasty example. A better fit would be.. I used to own 24 bottles of wine worth KES 700 each but now I am told that due to other traders price adjustment I should consider that despite several broken bottles during transportation, my 2 remaining wine bottles are now worth KES 450 but that the dealer due to our long business relationship has offered a purchase of each new bottle at a subsidized price of KES 150 each. Further and more shockingly the dealer announces that all the old and next incoming shipment would retail at KES 852 as from 08.08.17. I think it's fair

You do not hold the market by the balls @Obiero. You may set the price like its already set at kshs 5/= but trade at kshs 4/= bob market price. The market does not work with your EGM mad men's resolutions. The market is independent and very rational to give u adjustments for your crazy decisions. Look already for the Mr markets mood and see if you are catching a flu tooLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Hehe. Sasa mad men ni Michael Joseph au nani

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly , hata uwekelee jina la st Theresa hapo, iwezi shine. Kama ni mbaya ni mbaya, the gentleman will soon or later confess this to be his second corporate blunder after giving free talk time to Kenyans. A good manager putting his good reputation before a business with bad reputation, only the managers reputation suffers.Pray Pray

for those who needed to always be reminded, let me remind wazua that after safcom with a total of 40bn shares, kq comes next for lack of other words at 30.171445258 bn shares and for clarity not kenya shillings after the employees share ownership programme that allocated 142.164588 worth 1.4bn at the date of announcement free of charge, further diluting minority shareholders without mercy.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly. Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Drool Drool Drool Drool Drool
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
muandiwambeu
#10254 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 5:33:26 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@Obiero - Please help the banks out. Buy their shares in KQ so they can invest their money in better investments or loans!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Defv2NwXcAEj7w9.jpg

The shares traded by KQLC thus far are insignificant. We await 22nd June to know our fate

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
@Obiero, this is not for you. but roughening is necessary at times. you don't expect to make a sausage out of a living hog. some heavy bloody letting coming your way. this is truly pathetic, letting the cat out of the basket. a bad idea it is. take cover.
KQLC selling papers to accumulate pure gold from the unsuspecting Wanjiku. So guess what could you be buying.Wash wash at high corporate ranks. Day time thuggery, rights issue, project mawingu, the in-volute convoluted conversion, and now the blooper. Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Pray Pray
5/= by June 22nd is not far fetched @obiero.Not talking Think Think Think Shhh Shhh
what did the conversion/ consolidation/ decapitation of rotten shares create for this behemoth other than create a new logical height from which to fall through. Asking for a friend

I will respond to this post on 23.06.2018

and since @ovyo-ovyo did issue this date ovyo-ovyo, let me get some hard facts here for you to digest
Net asset(N.A)
N.A=5,806,000,000/
shares incl esop** 30,171,445,258 Number
per share 5,806,000,000/30,171,445,258/=
equating to 0.1924/=
Approximately 20cents per share.
The BIG quiz is why above twenty cents all the way to 11/=.
No wonder kqlcs is eager to jettison this monkey totting a shotgun in a house of glass full of mortals
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Sad
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
obiero
#10255 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 6:16:48 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,216
Location: nairobi
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@Obiero - Please help the banks out. Buy their shares in KQ so they can invest their money in better investments or loans!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Defv2NwXcAEj7w9.jpg

The shares traded by KQLC thus far are insignificant. We await 22nd June to know our fate

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
@Obiero, this is not for you. but roughening is necessary at times. you don't expect to make a sausage out of a living hog. some heavy bloody letting coming your way. this is truly pathetic, letting the cat out of the basket. a bad idea it is. take cover.
KQLC selling papers to accumulate pure gold from the unsuspecting Wanjiku. So guess what could you be buying.Wash wash at high corporate ranks. Day time thuggery, rights issue, project mawingu, the in-volute convoluted conversion, and now the blooper. Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Pray Pray
5/= by June 22nd is not far fetched @obiero.Not talking Think Think Think Shhh Shhh
what did the conversion/ consolidation/ decapitation of rotten shares create for this behemoth other than create a new logical height from which to fall through. Asking for a friend

I will respond to this post on 23.06.2018

and since @ovyo-ovyo did issue this date ovyo-ovyo, let me get some hard facts here for you to digest
Net asset(N.A)
N.A=5,806,000,000/
shares incl esop** 30,171,445,258 Number
per share 5,806,000,000/30,171,445,258/=
equating to 0.1924/=
Approximately 20cents per share.
The BIG quiz is why above twenty cents all the way to 11/=.
No wonder kqlcs is eager to jettison this monkey totting a shotgun in a house of glass full of mortals
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Sad

Hehe. You are very funny

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#10256 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 6:29:32 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,216
Location: nairobi
Meanwhile 827 KQ staff to be vetted by American Embassy in Kenya prior to USA flight green light

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#10257 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 7:47:46 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
mlennyma wrote:
littledove wrote:
https://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL8N1TO1B9

Kenya Airways will resume aviation fuel hedging in the second half of this year after price volatility drove up its costs, the airline’s CEO said on Friday.

The proposal would enable Kenya Airways to increase its fleet from 32 to 55 and start flying to 20 new international destinations by 2022, an official government document seen by Reuters showed.

The two statements above should worry kq shareholders alot. Hedging can again backfire, buying new planes almost double the current number needs billions

Kenol kobil should stay very far from this gumbler

KK sells fuel to KQ on a COD basis.
Ohana said KK supplies fuel only to those international airlines that pay within the agreed timeframe.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#10258 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 7:50:32 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:

This article gives a glimse of why KQ is struggling now.

Fuel getting lost at the store - Just imagine

The guy in charge of Procurement and the other one in charge of fuel were not sent away for nothing.

http://www.theeastafrica...8194-qtvp0lz/index.html

Quote:
The auditors, through forensic data analytics, also established that the jet oil issued from KQ’s stores was significantly higher than the actual consumption.

“Based on the recalculation, we could not account for $393,518 worth of jet oil due to the absence of supporting documentation for the stock issues,” the report states.

Everyone but the Shareholders make money from KQ
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#10259 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2018 6:43:46 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
muandiwambeu wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
Watch and learn..


A list of guys in a deep hole. Just because they have agreed to stop digging, does not mean they have a way out of the mess. Just because a driver as realised that a vehicle's brakes have failed does not imply a method to stop it down hill is devised, he may opt to abandon it and jump out as well.

That's a very negative attitude. With a peaceful election, expect a phoenix moment


One time you own 9.56% of a company then overnight you have 0.5%! If that is not shafting, i dont know what is.

I believe that the restructure as explained in this document is the best way out for KQ..


You own a 10 bedroom palace. Your neighbor takes over the palace but lets you keep the bathroom. The palace is indifferent but Mrs Obiero will not be amused, donge?

Hehe. Omera. That's a nasty example. A better fit would be.. I used to own 24 bottles of wine worth KES 700 each but now I am told that due to other traders price adjustment I should consider that despite several broken bottles during transportation, my 2 remaining wine bottles are now worth KES 450 but that the dealer due to our long business relationship has offered a purchase of each new bottle at a subsidized price of KES 150 each. Further and more shockingly the dealer announces that all the old and next incoming shipment would retail at KES 852 as from 08.08.17. I think it's fair

You do not hold the market by the balls @Obiero. You may set the price like its already set at kshs 5/= but trade at kshs 4/= bob market price. The market does not work with your EGM mad men's resolutions. The market is independent and very rational to give u adjustments for your crazy decisions. Look already for the Mr markets mood and see if you are catching a flu tooLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Hehe. Sasa mad men ni Michael Joseph au nani

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly , hata uwekelee jina la st Theresa hapo, iwezi shine. Kama ni mbaya ni mbaya, the gentleman will soon or later confess this to be his second corporate blunder after giving free talk time to Kenyans. A good manager putting his good reputation before a business with bad reputation, only the managers reputation suffers.Pray Pray

for those who needed to always be reminded, let me remind wazua that after safcom with a total of 40bn shares, kq comes next for lack of other words at 30.171445258 bn shares and for clarity not kenya shillings after the employees share ownership programme that allocated 142.164588 worth 1.4bn at the date of announcement free of charge, further diluting minority shareholders without mercy.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly. Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Drool Drool Drool Drool Drool



Back to the issue of dilution. You buy one mzinga then the barman adds 20 litres of water. Now your 400 ml alcohol to the litre of a mzinga is reduced to 20ml. That is 2 tablespoons by the way.
Life is short. Live passionately.
muandiwambeu
#10260 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2018 8:21:42 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
sparkly wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
obiero wrote:
Watch and learn..


A list of guys in a deep hole. Just because they have agreed to stop digging, does not mean they have a way out of the mess. Just because a driver as realised that a vehicle's brakes have failed does not imply a method to stop it down hill is devised, he may opt to abandon it and jump out as well.

That's a very negative attitude. With a peaceful election, expect a phoenix moment


One time you own 9.56% of a company then overnight you have 0.5%! If that is not shafting, i dont know what is.

I believe that the restructure as explained in this document is the best way out for KQ..


You own a 10 bedroom palace. Your neighbor takes over the palace but lets you keep the bathroom. The palace is indifferent but Mrs Obiero will not be amused, donge?

Hehe. Omera. That's a nasty example. A better fit would be.. I used to own 24 bottles of wine worth KES 700 each but now I am told that due to other traders price adjustment I should consider that despite several broken bottles during transportation, my 2 remaining wine bottles are now worth KES 450 but that the dealer due to our long business relationship has offered a purchase of each new bottle at a subsidized price of KES 150 each. Further and more shockingly the dealer announces that all the old and next incoming shipment would retail at KES 852 as from 08.08.17. I think it's fair

You do not hold the market by the balls @Obiero. You may set the price like its already set at kshs 5/= but trade at kshs 4/= bob market price. The market does not work with your EGM mad men's resolutions. The market is independent and very rational to give u adjustments for your crazy decisions. Look already for the Mr markets mood and see if you are catching a flu tooLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Hehe. Sasa mad men ni Michael Joseph au nani

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly , hata uwekelee jina la st Theresa hapo, iwezi shine. Kama ni mbaya ni mbaya, the gentleman will soon or later confess this to be his second corporate blunder after giving free talk time to Kenyans. A good manager putting his good reputation before a business with bad reputation, only the managers reputation suffers.Pray Pray

for those who needed to always be reminded, let me remind wazua that after safcom with a total of 40bn shares, kq comes next for lack of other words at 30.171445258 bn shares and for clarity not kenya shillings after the employees share ownership programme that allocated 142.164588 worth 1.4bn at the date of announcement free of charge, further diluting minority shareholders without mercy.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly. Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Drool Drool Drool Drool Drool



Back to the issue of dilution. You buy one mzinga then the barman adds 20 litres of water. Now your 400 ml alcohol to the litre of a mzinga is reduced to 20ml. That is 2 tablespoons by the way.

And he proudly announces to his patrons that it's siesta time, jienjoy.... Nah.Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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