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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
obiero
#10241 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 7:43:03 AM
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sparkly wrote:
littledove wrote:
https://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL8N1TO1B9

Kenya Airways will resume aviation fuel hedging in the second half of this year after price volatility drove up its costs, the airline’s CEO said on Friday.

The proposal would enable Kenya Airways to increase its fleet from 32 to 55 and start flying to 20 new international destinations by 2022, an official government document seen by Reuters showed.

The two statements above should worry kq shareholders alot. Hedging can again backfire, buying new planes almost double the current number needs billions


KQ cannot make an economic profit as long as it is exposed to competition in the international market place where national airlines are heavily subsidized. KQ can't compete with gulf airlines getting free fuel or European carriers getting loans at negative interest.

To make a profit, GOK should give KQ a monopoly on uplifting passangers and cargo from Kenya. E.g. if KQ flies to London, GOK should not allow any other airline to pick from Kenya.


But how come KQ used to be profitable

KQ ABP 4.26
Stiffler
#10242 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 9:15:23 AM
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sparkly wrote:
littledove wrote:
https://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL8N1TO1B9

Kenya Airways will resume aviation fuel hedging in the second half of this year after price volatility drove up its costs, the airline’s CEO said on Friday.

The proposal would enable Kenya Airways to increase its fleet from 32 to 55 and start flying to 20 new international destinations by 2022, an official government document seen by Reuters showed.

The two statements above should worry kq shareholders alot. Hedging can again backfire, buying new planes almost double the current number needs billions


KQ cannot make an economic profit as long as it is exposed to competition in the international market place where national airlines are heavily subsidized. KQ can't compete with gulf airlines getting free fuel or European carriers getting loans at negative interest.

To make a profit, GOK should give KQ a monopoly on uplifting passangers and cargo from Kenya. E.g. if KQ flies to London, GOK should not allow any other airline to pick from Kenya.


If all countries only allowed their airlines to pick passengers from their country how would that work...?!
Planes would need to fly empty to pick passengers from their designated countries...!
sparkly
#10243 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 9:18:30 AM
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obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
littledove wrote:
https://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL8N1TO1B9

Kenya Airways will resume aviation fuel hedging in the second half of this year after price volatility drove up its costs, the airline’s CEO said on Friday.

The proposal would enable Kenya Airways to increase its fleet from 32 to 55 and start flying to 20 new international destinations by 2022, an official government document seen by Reuters showed.

The two statements above should worry kq shareholders alot. Hedging can again backfire, buying new planes almost double the current number needs billions


KQ cannot make an economic profit as long as it is exposed to competition in the international market place where national airlines are heavily subsidized. KQ can't compete with gulf airlines getting free fuel or European carriers getting loans at negative interest.

To make a profit, GOK should give KQ a monopoly on uplifting passangers and cargo from Kenya. E.g. if KQ flies to London, GOK should not allow any other airline to pick from Kenya.


But how come KQ used to be profitable


Paper profits from creative accounting including but not limited to;

1. Fuel hedging profits
2. Sale and leaseback of assets
3. Advance recognition of revenue (recognising ticket sales for tuture travel as earned)
4. Under recognition of liabilities from delays and cancellations.

Economic profits on the other hand are self evident. An economically profitable firm:

1. Grows its NBV at a rate equal to or higher than general economic growth;
2. Generates free cash flows to replace or upgrade assets;
3. Pays an increasing dividend or maintains healthy cash reserves for acquisitions
4. Debt if any is maintained at low levels
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Gathige
#10244 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 10:13:21 AM
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sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
littledove wrote:
https://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL8N1TO1B9

Kenya Airways will resume aviation fuel hedging in the second half of this year after price volatility drove up its costs, the airline’s CEO said on Friday.

The proposal would enable Kenya Airways to increase its fleet from 32 to 55 and start flying to 20 new international destinations by 2022, an official government document seen by Reuters showed.

The two statements above should worry kq shareholders alot. Hedging can again backfire, buying new planes almost double the current number needs billions


KQ cannot make an economic profit as long as it is exposed to competition in the international market place where national airlines are heavily subsidized. KQ can't compete with gulf airlines getting free fuel or European carriers getting loans at negative interest.

To make a profit, GOK should give KQ a monopoly on uplifting passangers and cargo from Kenya. E.g. if KQ flies to London, GOK should not allow any other airline to pick from Kenya.


But how come KQ used to be profitable


Paper profits from creative accounting including but not limited to;

1. Fuel hedging profits
2. Sale and leaseback of assets
3. Advance recognition of revenue (recognising ticket sales for tuture travel as earned)
4. Under recognition of liabilities from delays and cancellations.

Economic profits on the other hand are self evident. An economically profitable firm:

1. Grows its NBV at a rate equal to or higher than general economic growth;
2. Generates free cash flows to replace or upgrade assets;
3. Pays an increasing dividend or maintains healthy cash reserves for acquisitions
4. Debt if any is maintained at low levels


Very True. Even a small trader would tell you, the way they know if they are making a profit is the cash in the till at the end of the day. The rest is normally accounting gymnastics- accruals, deferred income/tax, prepayments, hedging, puts, options, the list is endless.


"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
Ericsson
#10245 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 10:28:28 AM
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Yaliyopita si ndwele tugange yajayo.
The KQ of the past is gone.No need to spend too much talking about it.
Let's talk about KQ of today and the future.
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
HaMaina
#10246 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 11:18:29 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
littledove wrote:
https://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL8N1TO1B9

Kenya Airways will resume aviation fuel hedging in the second half of this year after price volatility drove up its costs, the airline’s CEO said on Friday.

The proposal would enable Kenya Airways to increase its fleet from 32 to 55 and start flying to 20 new international destinations by 2022, an official government document seen by Reuters showed.

The two statements above should worry kq shareholders alot. Hedging can again backfire, buying new planes almost double the current number needs billions

Kenol kobil should stay very far from this gumbler


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sparkly
#10247 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 11:51:01 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Yaliyopita si ndwele tugange yajayo.
The KQ of the past is gone.No need to spend too much talking about it.
Let's talk about KQ of today and the future.


Some investors quickly bury their heads under the sand when the uncomfortable truth is pointed out.
Life is short. Live passionately.
ArrestedDev
#10248 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 2:16:25 PM
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Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
sparkly wrote:
littledove wrote:
https://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL8N1TO1B9

Kenya Airways will resume aviation fuel hedging in the second half of this year after price volatility drove up its costs, the airline’s CEO said on Friday.

The proposal would enable Kenya Airways to increase its fleet from 32 to 55 and start flying to 20 new international destinations by 2022, an official government document seen by Reuters showed.

The two statements above should worry kq shareholders alot. Hedging can again backfire, buying new planes almost double the current number needs billions


KQ cannot make an economic profit as long as it is exposed to competition in the international market place where national airlines are heavily subsidized. KQ can't compete with gulf airlines getting free fuel or European carriers getting loans at negative interest.

To make a profit, GOK should give KQ a monopoly on uplifting passangers and cargo from Kenya. E.g. if KQ flies to London, GOK should not allow any other airline to pick from Kenya.



KQ can make profit. It has been doing so. Only corruption and mismanagement wipes out everything. If you add up what was lost, it is equal to the loss reported.

If Mikosz stays for 5 years, you will see changes in KQ.

The forensic audit unearthed massive looting, poor decision making leading to huge cashoutflows and even fuel being purchased at a price determined by the supplier.
ArrestedDev
#10249 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 2:47:33 PM
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This article gives a glimse of why KQ is struggling now.

Fuel getting lost at the store - Just imagine

The guy in charge of Procurement and the other one in charge of fuel were not sent away for nothing.

http://www.theeastafrica...8194-qtvp0lz/index.html

Quote:
The auditors, through forensic data analytics, also established that the jet oil issued from KQ’s stores was significantly higher than the actual consumption.

“Based on the recalculation, we could not account for $393,518 worth of jet oil due to the absence of supporting documentation for the stock issues,” the report states.
ArrestedDev
#10250 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2018 3:12:39 PM
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This is the guy who was mismanaging jet fuel procurement.

He even owns a petrol station.

Brian Mbuti - Manager In-flight and jet fuel procurement.

He was sent away.

http://www.thecitizen.co...131240-q07772/index.html
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