I agree with you but for a very different reason. If you have a son who still lives with you at age 30, he is totally your fault. You should live with your mistakes and should not try to throw them out to other people.

These are mistakes of middle class parents who yap about their successes to their children because of how "far" they have come. They tell their children about their hardships growing up in shags and walking without shoes. What children hear is that this is success, kuishi hapa is the best thing that could ever happen to them.

The right strategy for getting children out of the house is to make them believe that you are not doing well at all. You must exaggerate your suffering to your children every day.

Another thing always make sure that your house is not a comfortable place for them and they do not own any space in the house. A child should never have his room unless he is an only child. Rooms should be shared and often if you have visitors they should be made to give up the room and sleep on the sofa. The bed should also not be the most comfortable. The mattress should be the thinnest one you can get. The child can eat in the house but should never have a choice of what is cooked. He should always know that there are privileges that can only be enjoyed by a house owner. If your child is not complaining of something about your house, your rules, your food etc then you are doing something wrong. A child should be looking forward to the day he will get out of your house.

You know you have succeeded when your son moves from your Karen home to a single room in Kawangware and you can see that he is happy to just have his own place.

@mike, either you are too young or you don't have children or you do not understand African (specifically Kenyan locals) culture!

How do you compare Muhindi culture to ours? can you really! Their culture have been developed over long period of time, and the whole community understand the culture... Je! Wewe na mimi and your nywele nyeuthi community do they understand that culture?

Wait until you have older male children, come and report here.

I read somewhere that there are three stages of human relationships:

1. Dependence - parents do everything for their kids... feed them, clothe them, shelter them, educate them;

2. Independence - Children do things for themselves. E.g. going to the loo alone is one of first steps to independence. Getting own place, paying own bills, getting married all indicative of independence.

3. Interdependence - when independent people work together towards a common goal. Two adults taking care of children much easier than one, a business partnership much better than one man show, independent siblings start business/ take over family business very good.

In conclusion dependence is a disease esp in adults is a disease. After independence people should strive for inter-dependence since we are social animals anyway.

Interdependence should be encouraged from an early age e.g. on chores at home. Should continue into teenage and young adulthood. For instance no harm in letting your 19 year old drive your car if he does so responsibly, cleans it, spares some cash from his pocket money to fuel it.

Inter-generation living has always been part of african culture. If you have enough living space it works well. You have the grand-parents taking care of the little ones, the working age guys go out and hustle and bring money, the unemployed take care of household chores. So long everyone is pulling their weight you will increase family wealth. I also tried moving out early but my dad told me to stay put and use the rent money to build my sacco savings. It's best thing my folks did.

In the first world you move out early and when your parents are very old just throw them in the old peoples home. The western culture of individual living is not the ideal thing to copy.

But heard this Munyu guy has a baby boy out there.
Heard this on CNN.