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simonkabz wrote:murchr wrote:simonkabz wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle...  I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man?? You two are both right and wrong...If the dams are full it means they cannot use the same to regulate the flow hence the people downstream are left at the mercy of mother nature as the river flows untamed. And it is not given there will be flooding. Only if it continues raining above normal. The spill will only fill the other 7 forks dams, Gitaru, Kamburu... Chida itakuwa if the walls can't hold no more!! Itakaa wakati wa Noah entire lower Tana. No sir!, first there are no 7 dams but 5 - Masinga, Kamburu, Gitaru Kindaruma and Kiambere, 2 are yet to be built. The other dams are full and are spilling too....Kiambere the last dam has been spilling for wks now. Masinga is the largest of the 5 Boss, I didn't say they are 7, I called them by their name.. 7 forks dams... hawa watoto wa 844... Escapism, another thing, the walls are very strong and the spill ways were built to release the pressure when the dams are full. Wewe Murchir do you really understand what a spillway is? It doesnt "release pressure"......you make it sound like some spring or elastic thingy. It simply allows for spillage of excess water in the reservoir over the dam (hope you understand exactly what a DAM is). Earlier on you also intimated they are opened ........nope, they are not. They just sit there ndeeeee waiting for excess water to spill. Nikii mani Hii ndio ubaya ya kuingilia ugali katikati. When you open a tap to reduce the water in a tank because the inflow is unstoppable what are you doing? Wbrb Well well, that is exactly NOT the way a spillway works.:   A spillway releases pressure from the reservoir no? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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murchr wrote:simonkabz wrote:murchr wrote:simonkabz wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle... I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man?? You two are both right and wrong...If the dams are full it means they cannot use the same to regulate the flow hence the people downstream are left at the mercy of mother nature as the river flows untamed. And it is not given there will be flooding. Only if it continues raining above normal. The spill will only fill the other 7 forks dams, Gitaru, Kamburu... Chida itakuwa if the walls can't hold no more!! Itakaa wakati wa Noah entire lower Tana. No sir!, first there are no 7 dams but 5 - Masinga, Kamburu, Gitaru Kindaruma and Kiambere, 2 are yet to be built. The other dams are full and are spilling too....Kiambere the last dam has been spilling for wks now. Masinga is the largest of the 5 Boss, I didn't say they are 7, I called them by their name.. 7 forks dams... hawa watoto wa 844... Escapism, another thing, the walls are very strong and the spill ways were built to release the pressure when the dams are full. Wewe Murchir do you really understand what a spillway is? It doesnt "release pressure"......you make it sound like some spring or elastic thingy. It simply allows for spillage of excess water in the reservoir over the dam (hope you understand exactly what a DAM is). Earlier on you also intimated they are opened ........nope, they are not. They just sit there ndeeeee waiting for excess water to spill. Nikii mani Hii ndio ubaya ya kuingilia ugali katikati. When you open a tap to reduce the water in a tank because the inflow is unstoppable what are you doing? Wbrb Well well, that is exactly NOT the way a spillway works.: A spillway releases pressure from the reservoir no? He must be talking about floodgates that are constructed for dams without a spillway. The floodgates are normally opened to regulate reservoir water levels.  
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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murchr wrote:simonkabz wrote:murchr wrote:simonkabz wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle... I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man?? You two are both right and wrong...If the dams are full it means they cannot use the same to regulate the flow hence the people downstream are left at the mercy of mother nature as the river flows untamed. And it is not given there will be flooding. Only if it continues raining above normal. The spill will only fill the other 7 forks dams, Gitaru, Kamburu... Chida itakuwa if the walls can't hold no more!! Itakaa wakati wa Noah entire lower Tana. No sir!, first there are no 7 dams but 5 - Masinga, Kamburu, Gitaru Kindaruma and Kiambere, 2 are yet to be built. The other dams are full and are spilling too....Kiambere the last dam has been spilling for wks now. Masinga is the largest of the 5 Boss, I didn't say they are 7, I called them by their name.. 7 forks dams... hawa watoto wa 844... Escapism, another thing, the walls are very strong and the spill ways were built to release the pressure when the dams are full. Wewe Murchir do you really understand what a spillway is? It doesnt "release pressure"......you make it sound like some spring or elastic thingy. It simply allows for spillage of excess water in the reservoir over the dam (hope you understand exactly what a DAM is). Earlier on you also intimated they are opened ........nope, they are not. They just sit there ndeeeee waiting for excess water to spill. Nikii mani Hii ndio ubaya ya kuingilia ugali katikati. When you open a tap to reduce the water in a tank because the inflow is unstoppable what are you doing? Wbrb Well well, that is exactly NOT the way a spillway works.: A spillway releases pressure from the reservoir no? That statement doesnt sound right at all. It may not be about pressure per se, but having a systematic way of draining excess water......rather than having water spilling all over the top of a dam (the barrier) and probably causing erosion and damage in the process. The spillway allows the water to harmlessly "spill over". Mambo ya pressure make it sound like the reservoir is bloated from eating too much madondo....... The dam is designed to a specific and definite capacity, and should be able to hold that water pressure when full......Where could this extra pressure that needs to be released be coming from? Ama Samaki zinanyamba nyamba huko  TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Masinga has a spillway while kindaruma has floodgates. That is why there is more drama when kindaruma floodgates are opened. Masinga spillway.  Kindaruma floodgates. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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In ndakaini, the spillway is actually a hole in the ground at the "dam wall" where the excess water drains when the dam is full. Spillhole is structure to the right on first photo.  Closeup of the hole spillway.   Example of a hole spillway draining excess water. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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murchr wrote:simonkabz wrote:murchr wrote:simonkabz wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle... I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man?? You two are both right and wrong...If the dams are full it means they cannot use the same to regulate the flow hence the people downstream are left at the mercy of mother nature as the river flows untamed. And it is not given there will be flooding. Only if it continues raining above normal. The spill will only fill the other 7 forks dams, Gitaru, Kamburu... Chida itakuwa if the walls can't hold no more!! Itakaa wakati wa Noah entire lower Tana. No sir!, first there are no 7 dams but 5 - Masinga, Kamburu, Gitaru Kindaruma and Kiambere, 2 are yet to be built. The other dams are full and are spilling too....Kiambere the last dam has been spilling for wks now. Masinga is the largest of the 5 Boss, I didn't say they are 7, I called them by their name.. 7 forks dams... hawa watoto wa 844... Escapism, another thing, the walls are very strong and the spill ways were built to release the pressure when the dams are full. Wewe Murchir do you really understand what a spillway is? It doesnt "release pressure"......you make it sound like some spring or elastic thingy. It simply allows for spillage of excess water in the reservoir over the dam (hope you understand exactly what a DAM is). Earlier on you also intimated they are opened ........nope, they are not. They just sit there ndeeeee waiting for excess water to spill. Nikii mani Hii ndio ubaya ya kuingilia ugali katikati. When you open a tap to reduce the water in a tank because the inflow is unstoppable what are you doing? Wbrb Well well, that is exactly NOT the way a spillway works.: A spillway releases pressure from the reservoir no? The terminology that you are using is giving your statements a totally different meaning. If you use pressure in as far as the dam or any other water storage reservoir is concerned, it means you are talking of the hydraulic pressure at a random point just below the surface of water to the very bottom of the dam. In simple terms a spillway is a hydraulic structure that passes normal (operational) and/or flood flows in a manner that protects the structural integrity of the dam and/or dikes. These spillways are not just coupled to the dam works in a random manner but rather they are designed and sized hydraulically to safely pass floods equal to or less than the Inflow Design Flood (The inflow Design Flood is the most severe inflow flood (water volume) for which a dam and its associated facilities are designed. Spillways are meant to keep the level of the stored water in a dam constant and at the same maintaining the normal flow of the river downstream. ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Ahsante sana Hardwood. We stand guided thanks to my keeping Murchr on his toes. Kumbe ata kuna Morning Glory Spillway   TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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hardwood wrote:Masinga has a spillway while kindaruma has floodgates. That is why there is more drama when kindaruma floodgates are opened. Masinga spillway. Kindaruma floodgates. @hardwood, what you see in Masinga and Kindaruma are both spillways. One spillway is in the controlled (regulated) category while the other is in uncontrolled (unregulated) category. Also the spillway at Masinga dam is the side channel type while the one at Kindaruma is the drop type. ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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simonkabz wrote:murchr wrote:simonkabz wrote:murchr wrote:simonkabz wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle... I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man?? You two are both right and wrong...If the dams are full it means they cannot use the same to regulate the flow hence the people downstream are left at the mercy of mother nature as the river flows untamed. And it is not given there will be flooding. Only if it continues raining above normal. The spill will only fill the other 7 forks dams, Gitaru, Kamburu... Chida itakuwa if the walls can't hold no more!! Itakaa wakati wa Noah entire lower Tana. No sir!, first there are no 7 dams but 5 - Masinga, Kamburu, Gitaru Kindaruma and Kiambere, 2 are yet to be built. The other dams are full and are spilling too....Kiambere the last dam has been spilling for wks now. Masinga is the largest of the 5 Boss, I didn't say they are 7, I called them by their name.. 7 forks dams... hawa watoto wa 844... Escapism, another thing, the walls are very strong and the spill ways were built to release the pressure when the dams are full. Wewe Murchir do you really understand what a spillway is? It doesnt "release pressure"......you make it sound like some spring or elastic thingy. It simply allows for spillage of excess water in the reservoir over the dam (hope you understand exactly what a DAM is). Earlier on you also intimated they are opened ........nope, they are not. They just sit there ndeeeee waiting for excess water to spill. Nikii mani Hii ndio ubaya ya kuingilia ugali katikati. When you open a tap to reduce the water in a tank because the inflow is unstoppable what are you doing? Wbrb Well well, that is exactly NOT the way a spillway works.: A spillway releases pressure from the reservoir no? That statement doesnt sound right at all. It may not be about pressure per se, but having a systematic way of draining excess water......rather than having water spilling all over the top of a dam (the barrier) and probably causing erosion and damage in the process. The spillway allows the water to harmlessly "spill over". Mambo ya pressure make it sound like the reservoir is bloated from eating too much madondo....... The dam is designed to a specific and definite capacity, and should be able to hold that water pressure when full......Where could this extra pressure that needs to be released be coming from? Ama Samaki zinanyamba nyamba huko You dont have to be vulgar describe nothing it doesnt make you cool or anything just exposes your ignorance. My use of the word pressure is in relation to "stress" that can occur when the dam is full. You only seem to think of pressure as air. We are not discussing miguu ya gari.... "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Kaigangio wrote:murchr wrote:simonkabz wrote:murchr wrote:simonkabz wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:murchr wrote:harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:Njunge wrote:hardwood wrote:[quote=murchr]Spilling began at 4 The spillage is more of a trickle... I don't see it causing any harm downstream. 252,000 cubic metres per hour is a trickle?? What are you smoking young man?? You two are both right and wrong...If the dams are full it means they cannot use the same to regulate the flow hence the people downstream are left at the mercy of mother nature as the river flows untamed. And it is not given there will be flooding. Only if it continues raining above normal. The spill will only fill the other 7 forks dams, Gitaru, Kamburu... Chida itakuwa if the walls can't hold no more!! Itakaa wakati wa Noah entire lower Tana. No sir!, first there are no 7 dams but 5 - Masinga, Kamburu, Gitaru Kindaruma and Kiambere, 2 are yet to be built. The other dams are full and are spilling too....Kiambere the last dam has been spilling for wks now. Masinga is the largest of the 5 Boss, I didn't say they are 7, I called them by their name.. 7 forks dams... hawa watoto wa 844... Escapism, another thing, the walls are very strong and the spill ways were built to release the pressure when the dams are full. Wewe Murchir do you really understand what a spillway is? It doesnt "release pressure"......you make it sound like some spring or elastic thingy. It simply allows for spillage of excess water in the reservoir over the dam (hope you understand exactly what a DAM is). Earlier on you also intimated they are opened ........nope, they are not. They just sit there ndeeeee waiting for excess water to spill. Nikii mani Hii ndio ubaya ya kuingilia ugali katikati. When you open a tap to reduce the water in a tank because the inflow is unstoppable what are you doing? Wbrb Well well, that is exactly NOT the way a spillway works.: A spillway releases pressure from the reservoir no? The terminology that you are using is giving your statements a totally different meaning. If you use pressure in as far as the dam or any other water storage reservoir is concerned, it means you are talking of the hydraulic pressure at a random point just below the surface of water to the very bottom of the dam. In simple terms a spillway is a hydraulic structure that passes normal (operational) and/or flood flows in a manner that protects the structural integrity of the dam and/or dikes. These spillways are not just coupled to the dam works in a random manner but rather they are designed and sized hydraulically to safely pass floods equal to or less than the Inflow Design Flood (The inflow Design Flood is the most severe inflow flood (water volume) for which a dam and its associated facilities are designed.Spillways are meant to keep the level of the stored water in a dam constant and at the same maintaining the normal flow of the river downstream. That is exactly what i was trying to express without the jargon(kizungu mingi catwalk). Thank you for the explaination. Now, on Kiambere---- What is that type of outflow that gushes water so hard like that? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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