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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:
Surely, we need to take responsibility for some things. If we feel inferior to every other race that seems to be more financially able than ourselves then maybe the problem is in our minds. In the words of Bob Marley, this is self imposed mental slavery.
I agree totally...100% - my rant has nothing to do with outsiders, it's our own people. We need to understand some simple matters - 1) there is no way a country like ours will create a company that will sell abroad a product that can also be produced abroad without having a local consumer. you will not sell a v 0.0.1 of any product abroad IF you don't have a base here. (Talking tech sio maua or vitu kama hizo) 2) you need to eat your dog food before selling it to others. The government should skew the playing field kabisa... we are too eager to kusanya taxes then ship it abroad then flaunt shiny things from abroad. We need to remember Nyerere's statement - in boxing there are many weights... heavyweights, welterweight, featherweight e.t.c. heavyweights box against heavyweights... middleweights against middleweights. while the rules are exactly the same - there shall never be a bout between a heavyweight and a flyweight - no! that will be murder. Why then do we want to compete against heavyweights in our markets? Cost of production! The other day I gave an example of a simple thing like a bicycle... What did you say? Let's also be honest and admit that the government is unwilling or unable to play their role of creating a conducive environment for business and especially manufacturing. What is this which we are manufacturing? it has to be for local consumption - it's difficult getting capital at a good price and if you do - building stuff here is expensive. this is from a TV show but worth thinking about This might be a cliché but Japan is a major manufacturing nation yet they import over 95% of their raw materials. We already possess the three main ingredients in plenty, raw materials, creativity and youth. All we need is visionary and selfless leadership. And don't tell me we're not Japan. After all why should we be comparing ourselves against the mediocres like us or slightly better than us?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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2012 wrote:masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:2012 wrote:
Surely, we need to take responsibility for some things. If we feel inferior to every other race that seems to be more financially able than ourselves then maybe the problem is in our minds. In the words of Bob Marley, this is self imposed mental slavery.
I agree totally...100% - my rant has nothing to do with outsiders, it's our own people. We need to understand some simple matters - 1) there is no way a country like ours will create a company that will sell abroad a product that can also be produced abroad without having a local consumer. you will not sell a v 0.0.1 of any product abroad IF you don't have a base here. (Talking tech sio maua or vitu kama hizo) 2) you need to eat your dog food before selling it to others. The government should skew the playing field kabisa... we are too eager to kusanya taxes then ship it abroad then flaunt shiny things from abroad. We need to remember Nyerere's statement - in boxing there are many weights... heavyweights, welterweight, featherweight e.t.c. heavyweights box against heavyweights... middleweights against middleweights. while the rules are exactly the same - there shall never be a bout between a heavyweight and a flyweight - no! that will be murder. Why then do we want to compete against heavyweights in our markets? Cost of production! The other day I gave an example of a simple thing like a bicycle... What did you say? Let's also be honest and admit that the government is unwilling or unable to play their role of creating a conducive environment for business and especially manufacturing. What is this which we are manufacturing? it has to be for local consumption - it's difficult getting capital at a good price and if you do - building stuff here is expensive. this is from a TV show but worth thinking about This might be a cliché but Japan is a major manufacturing nation yet they import over 95% of their raw materials. We already possess the three main ingredients in plenty, raw materials, creativity and youth. All we need is visionary and selfless leadership. And don't tell me we're not Japan. After all why should we be comparing ourselves against the mediocres like us or slightly better than us? Japan has never invented anything that they manufacture. They just copied inventions from the west. From cars to TVs to refrigerators, computers, phones etc. Infact the landcruiser was a copy of the jeep. Right now S. korea and china are leading in mobile phone manufacturing after copying the iphone. Like the asians, the answer to our industrialization lies in copying not inventions. Let msungus do the inventing as they hibernate during winter. Let us copy and handle the intellectual property rights issues later. Even samsung is still battling apple on same issues as they power ahead in their copying and manufacturing.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Did you know more whites were brought into White Slavery!! than blacks? Mostly in North Africa / Ottoman Empire? This might explain why mzungu really hates waisilamu.    i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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harrydre wrote:Did you know more whites were brought into White Slavery!! than blacks? Mostly in North Africa / Ottoman Empire? This might explain why mzungu really hates waisilamu. This could be a lie... History is always written by the winners (by Dan Brown)! As Napoleon once said, 'What is history, but a false agreed upon?'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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History is always written by the winners (masters). When two cultures clash, the loser is obliterated, and the winner writes history books - books which glorify their own cause and disparage the conquered foe. As Napoleon once said, 'What is history, but a false agreed upon?' Dan Brown
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:History is always written by the winners (masters). When two cultures clash, the loser is obliterated, and the winner writes history books - books which glorify their own cause and disparage the conquered foe. As Napoleon once said, 'What is history, but a false agreed upon?' Dan Brown But that can't be true. Maybe we can talk about access to history being limited by the dominant power. But both the victor and vanquished have equal capacity to write history. Let's take the Murumbi collection as an example. It is a historical text written by the vanquished.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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tycho wrote:AlphDoti wrote:History is always written by the winners (masters). When two cultures clash, the loser is obliterated, and the winner writes history books - books which glorify their own cause and disparage the conquered foe. As Napoleon once said, 'What is history, but a false agreed upon?' Dan Brown But that can't be true. Maybe we can talk about access to history being limited by the dominant power. But both the victor and vanquished have equal capacity to write history. Let's take the Murumbi collection as an example. It is a historical text written by the vanquished. Three points if you do not mind: A. The question is: whose books are in the Murumbi's collection museum? B. Also, having equal capacity to write and actually writing are two different things. C. Dan Brown said: History is always written by the winners, are you saying he was wrong? D. Which historical text written by the vanquished?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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AlphDoti wrote:harrydre wrote:Did you know more whites were brought into White Slavery!! than blacks? Mostly in North Africa / Ottoman Empire? This might explain why mzungu really hates waisilamu. This could be a lie... History is always written by the winners (by Dan Brown)! As Napoleon once said, 'What is history, but a false agreed upon?' The article is crafted with intention to conceal: by focusing only on Blacks (I assume this means Africans), the winner, the writer in this case the white man, makes you forget about (1). the South Americans enslaved by the Spanish and Portugese, (2). the Red Indians by Christopher Columbus team, (3). those taken out of Africa, put in in boats, bring them to Europe, to America by British, Dutch, French, Spanish, and Americans, (4). those enslaved inside Africa (Congo, South Africa) by the Boers from Germany, Apartheid became acceptable system, (5). the "Aboriginal" in Australia, (6). those in the land of India and China, (7). the Far East, Philippine, Indonasia... Why does the writer choose to focus on Africans taken out alone comparing that to the whites? This is a smart way to re-write history... Smart people cannot buy that story. If you want to talk white slavery, talk those slaves by the whites.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Blacks were the most recent groups to suffer from mass slavery. the truth is slavery is as old as humanity. people working for others? didn't start in 1500s. Every bunch of people put weaker groups into slavery. even within the Americas - Mayans and Aztecs did that to people like them. All those west african kingdoms were slave owning (black people owning other black people), Romans had slavic people as slaves. heck it's only recently that slavery was a racial thing. during the roman era anyone could be a citizen of rome so Black people (Aethiopes) could have Germanic (white) slaves! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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