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VituVingiSana
#1171 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2018 7:37:10 AM
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$114 to $400,000 by Warren Buffett
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Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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obiero
#1172 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2018 7:47:53 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
$114 to $400,000 by Warren Buffett
https://www.yahoo.com/am...twitter_impression=true

@vvs could this hold true for Kenya really.. A good number of yesteryears heavy weight companies are no longer even operating and those in existence have been rattled by competition, think of Elliotts, KCC, Uchumi, Kimbo, Quencher, Barclays, Stanchart, Unga, KQ..
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Pesa Nane
#1173 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:32:01 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
$114 to $400,000 by Warren Buffett
https://www.yahoo.com/am...twitter_impression=true

@vvs could this hold true for Kenya really.. A good number of yesteryears heavy weight companies are no longer even operating and those in existence have been rattled by competition, think of Elliotts, KCC, Uchumi, Kimbo, QuencherTreetop, Barclays, Stanchart, Unga, KQ..

Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Fyatu
#1174 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:40:46 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
$114 to $400,000 by Warren Buffett
https://www.yahoo.com/am...twitter_impression=true

@vvs could this hold true for Kenya really.. A good number of yesteryears heavy weight companies are no longer even operating and those in existence have been rattled by competition, think of Elliotts, KCC, Uchumi, KimboUnilever, QuencherTreetop, Barclays, Stanchart, Unga, KQ..




Unilever used to be listed on NSE back in the day. Why the NSE honchos are unable to attract such quality firms(the real FMCGs...hizi ziko NSE sahii ni bandia) beats me
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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sparkly
#1175 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:41:50 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/analysis/ideas/When-is-right-selling-time-/4259414-4520872-uk44fq/index.html

Mwanyasi: Ignoring the market’s ups and downs entirely and remaining patient for a period lasting more than five years should reward you immensely.


Ignore market ups and downs at your own peril. You profit more if you buy in a low PE, high DY market and sell in the converse.
Life is short. Live passionately.
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wukan
#1176 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2018 10:24:58 AM
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sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/analysis/ideas/When-is-right-selling-time-/4259414-4520872-uk44fq/index.html

Mwanyasi: Ignoring the market’s ups and downs entirely and remaining patient for a period lasting more than five years should reward you immensely.


Ignore market ups and downs at your own peril. You profit more if you buy in a low PE, high DY market and sell in the converse.


Applause Exactly chase yields not the prestige of owning dead assets. If a stock is yielding you 1-5% yield you are better investing in a govt bond of 12% or a rental property of 9% yield. That capital gain of waiting 5 years to be rewarded immensely is just the same.
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Ericsson
#1177 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2018 10:55:18 AM
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sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/analysis/ideas/When-is-right-selling-time-/4259414-4520872-uk44fq/index.html

Mwanyasi: Ignoring the market’s ups and downs entirely and remaining patient for a period lasting more than five years should reward you immensely.


Ignore market ups and downs at your own peril. You profit more if you buy in a low PE, high DY market and sell in the converse.


@vvs will hear none of that.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Pesa Nane
#1178 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:15:06 AM
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sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/analysis/ideas/When-is-right-selling-time-/4259414-4520872-uk44fq/index.html

Mwanyasi: Ignoring the market’s ups and downs entirely and remaining patient for a period lasting more than five years should reward you immensely.


Ignore market ups and downs at your own peril. You profit more if you buy in a low PE, high DY market and sell in the converse.


Imagine if you bought the following NSE 'Blue Chips' and went away:

1. A Baumann
2. African Lakes Corporation.
3. African Tours and Hotels Ltd
4. Atlas Africa.
5. Brooke bond Kenya Ltd.
6. Chancery Investment Ltd.
7. City Brewery Investments Ltd
8. Consolidated Holdings Ltd.
9. E. A. Bag & Cordage Co.Ltd.
10. E. A. Oxygen Ltd.
11. E. A. Packaging Industries Ltd.
12. E. A. Road Services Ltd.
13. East African Packaging Ltd
14. Elliot’s Bakery Ltd.
15. Hutching Biemer
16. Kenstock Ltd.
17. Kenya Co-operative Cremaries.
18. Kenya Finance Corporation.
19. Kenya Hotels Ltd.
20. Kenya National Mills Ltd.
21. Kenya Planters Co-operative.
22. Motor Mart Group Ltd.
23. Ol Pajeta Ranching Ltd.
24. Pearl Dry cleaners Ltd.
25. Philips Harrison & Crossifield.
26. Sofar Investment Ltd.
27. Theta Group Ltd.
28. TimSales
29. Unilever Kenya Ltd
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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obiero
#1179 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2018 12:11:49 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
$114 to $400,000 by Warren Buffett
https://www.yahoo.com/am...twitter_impression=true

@vvs could this hold true for Kenya really.. A good number of yesteryears heavy weight companies are no longer even operating and those in existence have been rattled by competition, think of Elliotts, KCC, Uchumi, KimboUnilever, QuencherTreetop, Barclays, Stanchart, Unga, KQ..




Unilever used to be listed on NSE back in the day. Why the NSE honchos are unable to attract such quality firms(the real FMCGs...hizi ziko NSE sahii ni bandia) beats me

Akina FTG. Not sure what Kurwitu does for a living. These are the securities they have left us with at the NSE and more delisting requests still coming in.. Jesus take the wheel
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VituVingiSana
#1180 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2018 12:22:35 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
$114 to $400,000 by Warren Buffett
https://www.yahoo.com/am...twitter_impression=true

@vvs could this hold true for Kenya really.. A good number of yesteryears heavy weight companies are no longer even operating and those in existence have been rattled by competition, think of Elliotts, KCC, Uchumi, Kimbo, Quencher, Barclays, Stanchart, Unga, KQ..

Schumpter.
Elliots was never listed. Neither was KCC.
Kimbo, Quencher are brands.

One can't win every game. One has to look in on their firms re: management quality, industry, etc.

The goal is to pick some wonderful firms. And monitor them.
Barclays & Stanchart has done very well for the original IPO shareholders but BBK sadly lost the plot to the likes of Equity.

KQ - You know what happened.

Unga - It lost the plot in the 2000s and competition has increased though Unga is doing better now.

We do not know what will happen in the next 1 month let alone 70 years. That's why choose firms which have good fundamentals and management. Then keep looking in!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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