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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/10/2014 Posts: 969 Location: Kenya
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MugundaMan wrote:You are asking the wrong question brother.
You should be asking about 10 or 20 years from now. Not a pata potea 1 year which is the burial ground for those who buy and sell daily and find themselves in the red always.
If I could own one single stock to hold for 30 years, it would without a doubt be SCOM.
Unfortunately it is too pricey for my budget based on basic FA. But if I was to get a ksh 5m windfall. I would invest 4m of it on serious things and then gamble 1m of it on holding overpriced SCOM for thirty years.
EVRD is my other long term gamble. It's a turnaround situation whose merits I have argued elsewhere. Holding this one for 10 years minimum.
The other stock I would pick is a no brainer. I have mentioned it before; ICDC. In fact this is the single most attractive stock on all counts;
- Price to Book - Booming Revenues - Political connections - Vision 2030 project links - Super diversified - Sharp management. In fact I'd argue that the Centum CEO is the sharpest tool in the NSE shed IMHO. And I'm not talking theoretical sharpness alone..he has unmatched practical smarts as well.
I foolishly bought ICDC back when it was still called ICDC for 6 bob, then sold at 12 a year later thinking I was a genius (my dummy days when my horizon was short term). Wapi? It soared to 20, then 30 shortly after! Bought back in at under 35 and will hold for the next 100 years assuming I will be still alive by then.
SCOM is a tech stock and technology changes so fast. My policy on Safcom, buy and hold when the party is on. A single change in technology can wipe out a large chunk of their revenue if they dont adapt. Otherwise, its a fantastic stock with AMAZING cashflows
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 830
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watesh wrote:Which stocks do you predict will be the best picks for 2018?
Total is currently leading the pack as I said. Happy Hunting! A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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https://www.businessdail...4259442-4294668-gdln1p/
Which listed counters benefitted from the rally. On my list I have the following which are heavily listed in the NSE --CIC Insurance --Kenya Re --Sanlam Kenya --Jubilee Insurance Britam is skewed so much towards Housing Finance and Equity bank;that's why they even issued a profit warning. The rest didn't. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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Ericsson wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/capital/NSE-equity-rebound-lifts-pension-returns-to-18pc/4259442-4294668-gdln1p/
Which listed counters benefitted from the rally. On my list I have the following which are heavily listed in the NSE --CIC Insurance --Kenya Re --Sanlam Kenya --Jubilee Insurance
Britam is skewed so much towards Housing Finance and Equity bank;that's why they even issued a profit warning. The rest didn't. CIC looks sharp in the business as they have both captured the lower and higher segment. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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pan africa insurance, nation media group and flame tree. All undervalued and decent management. pan Africa in addition is a recovery story. flame tree yet to really taste a rally since listing. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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Whatever happened to the wazua spirit Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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Fyatu wrote:Whatever happened to the wazua spirit It was decapitated by some of these new comers.. Plus the exit of real wazuans like @stocksmaster @guru267 @young @thedeal @muganda HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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obiero wrote:Fyatu wrote:Whatever happened to the wazua spirit It was decapitated by some of these new comers.. Plus the exit of real wazuans like @stocksmaster @guru267 @young @thedeal @muganda I have also noticed that most brokers are clueless and cannot give sound advice and the big boys and girls at NSE(Majority shareholders) are keen to shaft the brave wanjiku thoroughly. I have noticed that golden handcuffs and lack of dividends in some firms last for more than 3 years suggesting price manipulation to shake out the inpatient and weak wanjiku(case in point centum @9-11 bob and zero dividends for almost 5 years). This NSE just as KNH is not for the faint hearted. You gotta behave like the big boys/girls to make money here. Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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Fyatu wrote:obiero wrote:Fyatu wrote:Whatever happened to the wazua spirit It was decapitated by some of these new comers.. Plus the exit of real wazuans like @stocksmaster @guru267 @young @thedeal @muganda I have also noticed that most brokers are clueless and cannot give sound advice and the big boys and girls at NSE(Majority shareholders) are keen to shaft the brave wanjiku thoroughly. I have noticed that golden handcuffs and lack of dividends in some firms last for more than 3 years suggesting price manipulation to shake out the inpatient and weak wanjiku(case in point centum @9-11 bob and zero dividends for almost 5 years). This NSE just as KNH is not for the faint hearted. You gotta behave like the big boys/girls to make money here. 100% true.. HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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obiero wrote:Fyatu wrote:Whatever happened to the wazua spirit It was decapitated by some of these new comers.. Plus the exit of real wazuans like @stocksmaster @guru267 @young @thedeal @muganda We really need that spirit of wazua back. @young gave a good advice on the balance between financials and industrials.I think he was right.I followed the advice and i feel my portfolio is balanced. @obiero,@pesa nane,and @vvs are the remaining veterans from those days who are still pursuing the good spirit of wazua. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:KQ: By 2020, KQ will be very well back on its knees Wow. Thanks for the future peek. You are some sort of prophet? But isn't that what you do too? "KQ will be up" "KQ will make folks millions" Being positive is allowed but negativity has to be supported by facts #FakeNews Lol.. Happy 2018 to you too.. KQ books for 2017 close today with the final loss position for the at least 5 years to come #RealNews Official announcement for change of financial year reporting is coming out when The exchange bar is official.. Take it or leave it Watch and learn HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:watesh wrote:Ericsson wrote:Uchumi supermarket This one depends on how well they stock and market. A small gain in market share will trigger a jump in price Naivas making major moves in the CBD.. Uchumi likely to struggle Uchumi struggle is real HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Kayole
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obiero wrote:Fyatu wrote:Whatever happened to the wazua spirit It was decapitated by some of these new comers.. Plus the exit of real wazuans like @stocksmaster @guru267 @young @thedeal @muganda Let's also not forget @hisah, @karasinga, @mnandii, to mention a few more KEGN, KPLC, KQ, SCOM
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,519 Location: nairobi
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mkate_nusu wrote:obiero wrote:Fyatu wrote:Whatever happened to the wazua spirit It was decapitated by some of these new comers.. Plus the exit of real wazuans like @stocksmaster @guru267 @young @thedeal @muganda Let's also not forget @hisah, @karasinga, @mnandii, to mention a few more The ones you mention are wazuans that never left.. HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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Bought myself Fahari-I-REIT recently...Lets see what happens
Reasons
1. Cash Rich 2. Zero debt 3. Huge discount to NAV 4. Real Estate-Steady predictable returns.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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the deal wrote:Bought myself Fahari-I-REIT recently...Lets see what happens
Reasons
1. Cash Rich 2. Zero debt 3. Huge discount to NAV 4. Real Estate-Steady predictable returns. 5.Gives one portfolio balance and diversity. 6.High percentage distribution payout to unit holders,91%. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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CIC insurance has received a thorough beating this year; Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/20/2008 Posts: 503
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Ebenyo wrote:the deal wrote:Bought myself Fahari-I-REIT recently...Lets see what happens
Reasons
1. Cash Rich 2. Zero debt 3. Huge discount to NAV 4. Real Estate-Steady predictable returns. 5.Gives one portfolio balance and diversity. 6.High percentage distribution payout to unit holders,91%. It is however subject to recurrent capital calls as well as expiry of a lock in period. Qtn is does one wait for crystallisation of those two events, which are certain, prior to diving in. I believe those 2 reasons are the cause for the depressed share price.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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xxxxx wrote:Ebenyo wrote:the deal wrote:Bought myself Fahari-I-REIT recently...Lets see what happens
Reasons
1. Cash Rich 2. Zero debt 3. Huge discount to NAV 4. Real Estate-Steady predictable returns. 5.Gives one portfolio balance and diversity. 6.High percentage distribution payout to unit holders,91%. It is however subject to recurrent capital calls as well as expiry of a lock in period. Qtn is does one wait for crystallisation of those two events, which are certain, prior to diving in. I believe those 2 reasons are the cause for the depressed share price. I doubt this will happen anytime soon...they will go for either two 1. Units swap with property owners 2. Debt
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Total Absolute Returns of Privatized Firms in Kenya; 1. Safaricom 485% 2. Kenya Re 97% 3. KenGen -27% (negative) Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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