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the Kingdom of eSwatini
masukuma
#1 Posted : Thursday, April 19, 2018 7:44:43 PM
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Mukiri
#2 Posted : Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:40:18 PM
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kawi254
#3 Posted : Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:54:48 PM
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Some small countries in Africa are not viable on their own and should be swallowed by their neighbors e.g

1. Malawi should be part of Zambia . They share similar ethnic group Chewa, Ngoni, Tonga...basically they are the same people.

2. Burundi should be taken over by Tanzania - virtually all Burundi people have been refugees in Tanzania.

3. Lesotho & Swaziland are just in some African Utopia and the sooner they become part of South Africa the better for them. Their citizens work and live in SA.
Kusadikika
#4 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2018 12:55:42 AM
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kawi254 wrote:
Some small countries in Africa are not viable on their own and should be swallowed by their neighbors e.g

1. Malawi should be part of Zambia . They share similar ethnic group Chewa, Ngoni, Tonga...basically they are the same people.

2. Burundi should be taken over by Tanzania - virtually all Burundi people have been refugees in Tanzania.

3. Lesotho & Swaziland are just in some African Utopia and the sooner they become part of South Africa the better for them. Their citizens work and live in SA.


I vehemently disagree.. (Miguna style). Tribe is the most natural basis for nationhood. Look at European countries, they are basically tribal kingdoms like eSwatini. Once people have their own kingdoms then they can engage in cooperating with one another as equals. What you are saying has been tried before with disastrous consequences.

There was a guy called Tito who succeeded in creating one country called Yugoslavia that was made up of Serbs, Croats, Albanians, Slovenians etc. Walikosana vibaya sana. USSR survived for some 60 years before it also broke up but even for it to survive for as long as it did a lot of atrocities were committed by Stalin against small tribes. Stalin used to move whole ethnic groups from one place to another. Can you imagine all Luos being moved to Wajir or something like that.

Check out this:
https://en.wikipedia.org...fer_in_the_Soviet_Union

The more I read about these things the more I believe that Kenya even with all our bickering, tumejaribu. Wazungu just drew some lines around us and told us we are one country na tukakubali.
Angelica _ann
#5 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2018 9:00:08 AM
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Oooops kept on reading kingdom of swenani smile d'oh!
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masukuma
#6 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2018 9:31:48 AM
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Kusadikika wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
Some small countries in Africa are not viable on their own and should be swallowed by their neighbors e.g

1. Malawi should be part of Zambia . They share similar ethnic group Chewa, Ngoni, Tonga...basically they are the same people.

2. Burundi should be taken over by Tanzania - virtually all Burundi people have been refugees in Tanzania.

3. Lesotho & Swaziland are just in some African Utopia and the sooner they become part of South Africa the better for them. Their citizens work and live in SA.


I vehemently disagree.. (Miguna style). Tribe is the most natural basis for nationhood. Look at European countries, they are basically tribal kingdoms like eSwatini. Once people have their own kingdoms then they can engage in cooperating with one another as equals. What you are saying has been tried before with disastrous consequences.

There was a guy called Tito who succeeded in creating one country called Yugoslavia that was made up of Serbs, Croats, Albanians, Slovenians etc. Walikosana vibaya sana. USSR survived for some 60 years before it also broke up but even for it to survive for as long as it did a lot of atrocities were committed by Stalin against small tribes. Stalin used to move whole ethnic groups from one place to another. Can you imagine all Luos being moved to Wajir or something like that.

Check out this:
https://en.wikipedia.org...fer_in_the_Soviet_Union

The more I read about these things the more I believe that Kenya even with all our bickering, tumejaribu. Wazungu just drew some lines around us and told us we are one country na tukakubali.

If you think kenyans hate each other and that we have 'tribalism' wait until you get a Serb and an Albanian in the same room or a Russian and a Georgian uone moto! Switzerland is a viable county and it's rather small. Belgium has it's own issues between the Flemish and French. Spain and Catalonia? France and corsica?
by the way Europe is full of these


The problem with Swaziland is not that it's small... it's that it's a kingdom!

All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Mukiri
#7 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2018 9:37:21 AM
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Kusadikika wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
Some small countries in Africa are not viable on their own and should be swallowed by their neighbors e.g

1. Malawi should be part of Zambia . They share similar ethnic group Chewa, Ngoni, Tonga...basically they are the same people.

2. Burundi should be taken over by Tanzania - virtually all Burundi people have been refugees in Tanzania.

3. Lesotho & Swaziland are just in some African Utopia and the sooner they become part of South Africa the better for them. Their citizens work and live in SA.


I vehemently disagree.. (Miguna style). Tribe is the most natural basis for nationhood. Look at European countries, they are basically tribal kingdoms like eSwatini. Once people have their own kingdoms then they can engage in cooperating with one another as equals. What you are saying has been tried before with disastrous consequences.

There was a guy called Tito who succeeded in creating one country called Yugoslavia that was made up of Serbs, Croats, Albanians, Slovenians etc. Walikosana vibaya sana. USSR survived for some 60 years before it also broke up but even for it to survive for as long as it did a lot of atrocities were committed by Stalin against small tribes. Stalin used to move whole ethnic groups from one place to another. Can you imagine all Luos being moved to Wajir or something like that.

Check out this:
https://en.wikipedia.org...fer_in_the_Soviet_Union

The more I read about these things the more I believe that Kenya even with all our bickering, tumejaribu. Wazungu just drew some lines around us and told us we are one country na tukakubali.

smile

Proverbs 19:21
Swenani
#8 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2018 10:13:59 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Oooops kept on reading kingdom of swenani smile d'oh!

Missment
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
tycho
#9 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2018 10:25:59 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Oooops kept on reading kingdom of swenani smile d'oh!


Na mi nasinda nikisoma 'Kingdom of Saitan'.

Ama ni vile Bishop Mukiri alikatazwa 'dirty jokes' na amekataa kusikia?
hardwood
#10 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2018 11:25:23 AM
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The Europeans are proud of their kingdoms, kings, queens, princes eg. England, Denmark, Belgium, Monaco, Spain. The same with arabs eg. Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Emirates, Oman. Also the asians eg Bhutan, Malaysia, Thailand. Let us Africans also be proud of our kings like mswati, lesotho etc. It was a big mistake for mzungu to trick/force us africans to abolish some of the major kingdoms that African had such as Zulu, Ashanti, Buganda, "Wangu wa makeri" kingdom etc while mzungu maintained his. Africans were told that it was primitive and ushenzi to continue having outdated cultures such kingdoms.
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