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double spring - Premio
Layman
#1 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:03:00 AM
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I have a premio fitted with 14 inch wheels. My road to and from home is Manyaja road in Doni,if you use the road then you are with me. Some crazy bumps were erected there that my car almost swings on top. Those bumps hit the car huko chini mpaka I feel like crying. I am being adviced to put 'double springs'. It has spacers which do not seem to help.

Will double spacers help? Could it be the shocks? Any mechanic around Tena/Umoja/Doni rounda in the da house,please advice,if possible,give directions to your garrage so i can come over for a chat.



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waswa
#2 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:00:00 AM
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@laymen..i know a Mechanic who ply's his trade hapo K.south..He's called Ouma-his number..0723602924..He's a specialist in Premio

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Njunge
#3 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:00:00 AM
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Double springs?........How is that done??...Fitting another set of spacers means you will have an extra 50mm between the body and spring seats.What happens to the COG of the car??......You compromise the car's stability and hence your safety.......Two things you can do.Fit new Monroe coil springs.They have 6 coils in place of the normal 5.You can also opt to replace your wheel set with size 15......or better still do a combination of both....

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Sasha
#4 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:32:00 AM
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@Layman: Had the same problem and all I wekad were 7 coil springs and I've never had problems even when bebaing 3 90kg people! Forget double spacers!

@waswa: Ati a specialist in premio? That's a new one!




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tuvok
#5 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:55:00 AM
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@Mayanja.

I had a similar problem with my premio - the car was literally 'bouncing'

I had opted not to put in spacers when i imported the car but instead increased the profile of the tyres from 65% to 70% (Now 14' 185R70) but that did not offer much clearance.

So later I figured that the springs / shocks were the problem and paid a visit to Oriel Kenya (who btw are the Monroe distributors) and changed all shocks and springs - they did the fitting free. My pocket felt the BIG pinch but the car became much more stable,handles better and I have greater clearance even when I've bebad big guys.

Best time to do Monroe shocks is to time when they have these special offers (usually April and Nov/Dec). As a matter of fact,a good number of vehicle spares are on discount during this time.
Njunge
#6 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2009 7:05:00 AM
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@Tuvok,

You changed your tyre profile from 65 to 70 and expected what....???......So much for ignorance.....hehehe...!!


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tuvok
#7 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2009 7:29:00 AM
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@Njunge - I knew exactly what I was doing.

I prefer to keep as close to the car specs as possible. I also work with fact.

Spacers reduce stability to some extent so i opted out of that.
Increasing the profile to 70% reduces the chances of getting tyre bursts on our roads + a more comfortable ride. Also gave me 1.85 cm of clearance. Have a look at http://www.kouki.co.uk/u...l-tyre-size-calculator.

Through in new springs and shocks increases the stability and the handling as well as bring the clearance to what it should be.

So I'm not as ignorant as you might think.
Sasha
#8 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2009 7:30:00 AM
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he he he! Guka: I also thought the same! I'm still trying to figure out how that will help!

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starr
#9 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2009 7:46:00 AM
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@sasha eish!!! you must be one of the most technical ladies in nairobi. seen your contributions from dogs,diy dstv joints on luthuli ave,best springs specs on a gari. your boyfriend or husband is or will be a most relaxed man eh? i am not complaining though. my madam is a civil engineer. when it comes to matters building and construction i have to take a distant back seat. mimi nikuangalia tu. one time i tried kimbele mbele and i was bombarded with engineering jargon mpaka nikajua where i belong. kudos all the same na endelea vivyo hivyo.
And1589
#10 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:06:00 AM
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@Layman
Just get in touch with a mechanic called Ochieng along Kangundo Road in Umoja and all your problems will be solved at a pocket friendly price. Garage called Wabe motors.

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Silk
#11 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:20:00 AM
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My friend,get into contact with Oriel Kenya for Monroe or Robs Magics for Coils and springs. Their coils are high density,higher and offers more clearance and you'll need no spacers.

You'll feel the cost pinch but it's worth it.

Though i don't know much abt cars,i think alloy reams helps to some extent. A tyre in an alloy ream seems fatter than in the ordinary tin reams.

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Sasha
#12 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:44:00 AM
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@starr: I love cars, so I busy myself trying to understand them and how they work.

That and the fact that I was brought up as the only girl in a family of 5 all of whom love cars!



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tuvok
#13 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:52:00 AM
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@ silk - exactly what I did in Dec last year.

Shocks + Springs + Protective case thingi set me back 64k (for a AT210 premio) - all this from Oriel Kenya but after that you are sorted.
bwenyenye
#14 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:38:00 AM
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Good peple,

I think @ tuvok has a good point. every car has its specifications and the introduction of any part that was not an original part will harm the vehicle by altering its balance eve at the engine level. Anything from fake parts,broad alloy rims,spacers,springs and coils that are not specified by the manufacturer will affect the vehicle. If you fit any of these things,you will pay by losing stability,faster wear and tear of other parts e.g ball joints and drive shafts (for those with broad rims),body tears,and more that you know you get higher fuel consumption.Ultimately,if the car is involed in an accident,the insurers can easily ruka by citing alterations that were not pre approved. You then face the music yourself. You would rather vuka the bumps slowly than adjust your moti.If you observe keenly,those motis that last longer and are well kept do not have these extras.

p.s cars are meant to last you not less than six years to make financial sense. Ask @ njung'e with his peugeot. Iam sure iko vile ilitoka marshalls x years ago
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Layman
#15 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2009 5:08:00 AM
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Thank you all. I ave decided to fit the monroe springs/shocks.

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zamali
#16 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2009 12:57:00 PM
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Are these the best prices for Monroe shocks in town ? 82K spent on suspension system alone ? I will stick with my chep 'fake' kayafas,they still last.

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adept
#17 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2009 1:50:00 PM
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It is better to bite the bullet mara moja. I go to my jua kali guy on other issues but not with suspension trouble. Lakini that is just me. To each his own.
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