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hardwood		#51 Posted : Sunday, April 15, 2018 12:09:34 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay		Mukiri wrote: hardwood wrote: Mukiri wrote: hardwood wrote: masukuma wrote: I have always found it rather interesting that the Mzungu taught us not to drink Alcohol - yet he himself drunk it! Mzungu banned all traditional brews and africans were not allowed to take bottled beer. Very selfish. Fermentation is fermentation whether you are fermenting grapes (wine), barley/corn/maize (beer), potatoes/wheat (vodka), honey (muratina) or maize (busaa), coconut (mnazi). Even the spirits are the same - whisky from distilling beer, changaa from busaa. It's only that mzungu ages his "changaa" in oak barrels to add flavour and "smoothness", and calls it single malt whisky. So sad that africans were made to hate their traditional brews and worship mzungu drinks. Its the new form of colonization/slavery to ensure all alcohol profits go to london to sustain "the empire". A mzungu in europe is free to ferment barley or maize and sell to us as heineken or distill and sell to us as johnnie walker. But when a kenyan tries to do the same the APs raid your premises and you are dragged to court. Mnazi IS NOT fermented coconut. I thought it was obvious that the sap collected from the coconut palm ferments to become pombe ya mnazi? Or you want me to give details of the whole process? If you ask politely you might be educated on what mnazi really is Let me teach you what mnazi is....
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Mukiri		#52 Posted : Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:27:33 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222		hardwood wrote: I thought it was obvious that the sap collected from the coconut palm ferments to become pombe ya mnazi? Or you want me to give details of the whole process? Very good. Next time don't embarrass yourself by insisting you know something you don't. Hope you got educated that no fermentation takes place to convert it to something else. It is what it is. The sap, IS the mnazi! Proverbs 19:21
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hardwood		#53 Posted : Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:16:31 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay		Mukiri wrote: hardwood wrote: I thought it was obvious that the sap collected from the coconut palm ferments to become pombe ya mnazi? Or you want me to give details of the whole process? Very good. Next time don't embarrass yourself by insisting you know something you don't. Hope you got educated that no fermentation takes place to convert it to something else. It is what it is. The sap, IS the mnazi! You are wrong and you should confine yourself to preaching and adult toys, and leave matters phombe to experienced hands and walevi like us. Fermentation does take place. The sap when coming from the coconut tree isn't alcoholic but after exudation from the plant it becomes colonised by natural yeasts that turn the sugarly sap into alcohol. Within 2hrs it has about 4% alcohol. When stored longer more sugar is turned into alcohol. So to correct you, a coconut tree doesn't have alcohol running through its system. Rather it only has a sugarly sap that starts to ferment after its extracted by "mgema". Just like the way your freshly squeezed pineapple juice (or sliced pineapple) turns alcoholic after a day or 2 due to natural colonisation by yeasts that turn the sugars to phombe. Educate yourself on matters mnazi here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_wine
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Mukiri		#54 Posted : Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:32:24 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222		hardwood wrote: Mukiri wrote: hardwood wrote: I thought it was obvious that the sap collected from the coconut palm ferments to become pombe ya mnazi? Or you want me to give details of the whole process? Very good. Next time don't embarrass yourself by insisting you know something you don't. Hope you got educated that no fermentation takes place to convert it to something else. It is what it is. The sap, IS the mnazi! You are wrong and you should confine yourself to preaching and adult toys, and leave matters phombe to experienced hands and walevi like us. Fermentation does take place. The sap when coming from the coconut tree isn't alcoholic but after exudation from the plant it becomes colonised by natural yeasts that turn the sugarly sap into alcohol. Within 2hrs it has about 4% alcohol. When stored longer more sugar is turned into alcohol. So to correct you, a coconut tree doesn't have alcohol running through its system. Rather it only has a sugarly sap that starts to ferment after its extracted by "mgema". Just like the way your freshly squeezed pineapple juice (or sliced pineapple) turns alcoholic after a day or 2 due to natural colonisation by yeasts that turn the sugars to phombe. Educate yourself on matters mnazi here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_wine Eish! No need for unnecessary aggression. You are right, there's a natural process, self occurring without any additive, where the sugary sap because a more alcoholic drink. This explains why its very sweet upon extraction, if when taken then, the partaker is likely to feel the effect much later as the alcohol ferments inside Proverbs 19:21
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