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Ericsson
#76 Posted : Tuesday, March 13, 2018 5:00:35 PM
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snifadog wrote:
obiero wrote:
snifadog wrote:
the MPESA train gathered steam a long time ago, trying to compete there is rather a fruitless endeavour

If a similar product offering with a strong agent network, at a lower tarrif occurs, then the unthinkable may just become a reality. Safaricom must not take Telkom lightly


even if a competitor came which was 10-20% better than MPESA, it would never catch up imo, at this rate any competitor needs to change the game completely. orders of magnitude better/different if you want to stop this train


Telkom kenya strategy is to dislodge airtel and become number 2 and the owners to get a return on their investments.
They know they can't dislodge safaricom from top position.
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jgithige
#77 Posted : Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:00:55 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
snifadog wrote:
obiero wrote:
snifadog wrote:
the MPESA train gathered steam a long time ago, trying to compete there is rather a fruitless endeavour

If a similar product offering with a strong agent network, at a lower tarrif occurs, then the unthinkable may just become a reality. Safaricom must not take Telkom lightly


even if a competitor came which was 10-20% better than MPESA, it would never catch up imo, at this rate any competitor needs to change the game completely. orders of magnitude better/different if you want to stop this train


Telkom kenya strategy is to dislodge airtel and become number 2 and the owners to get a return on their investments.
They know they can't dislodge safaricom from top position.


MPESA is just 11 yrs old. Its never too late to compete. Truly safaricom is a huge titanic.
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VituVingiSana
#78 Posted : Wednesday, March 14, 2018 11:53:54 PM
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The reality is that M-Pesa is the preferred (mobile money) choice for many vendors. Many vendors/establishments accept just M-Pesa that one has no choice but to use M-Pesa.

I prefer using Airtel Money where possible coz it's cheaper BUT my choices are limited so I default to Safcom.
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obiero
#79 Posted : Friday, April 06, 2018 8:21:17 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
The reality is that M-Pesa is the preferred (mobile money) choice for many vendors. Many vendors/establishments accept just M-Pesa that one has no choice but to use M-Pesa.

I prefer using Airtel Money where possible coz it's cheaper BUT my choices are limited so I default to Safcom.

Vindu vichangeanga

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VituVingiSana
#80 Posted : Friday, April 06, 2018 8:38:04 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
The reality is that M-Pesa is the preferred (mobile money) choice for many vendors. Many vendors/establishments accept just M-Pesa that one has no choice but to use M-Pesa.

I prefer using Airtel Money where possible coz it's cheaper BUT my choices are limited so I default to Safcom.

Vindu vichangeanga

Applause Applause Applause As long as it costs less/same to send money from Airtel to Safcom
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obiero
#81 Posted : Friday, April 06, 2018 8:42:05 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
The reality is that M-Pesa is the preferred (mobile money) choice for many vendors. Many vendors/establishments accept just M-Pesa that one has no choice but to use M-Pesa.

I prefer using Airtel Money where possible coz it's cheaper BUT my choices are limited so I default to Safcom.

Vindu vichangeanga

Applause Applause Applause As long as it costs less/same to send money from Airtel to Safcom

@vvs this is a game changer.. also look at the post paid KES 2,500 by Telkom

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KulaRaha
#82 Posted : Friday, April 06, 2018 9:25:55 AM
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How is interoperability a game changer?

Most merchants are on Safaricom...to even get 10% of their reach will take Telkom and Airtel years...if their system works.

T Kash is brainless cloning...they should have done something different like Reliance Jio...game changing truly!
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Ericsson
#83 Posted : Friday, April 06, 2018 9:31:46 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
The reality is that M-Pesa is the preferred (mobile money) choice for many vendors. Many vendors/establishments accept just M-Pesa that one has no choice but to use M-Pesa.

I prefer using Airtel Money where possible coz it's cheaper BUT my choices are limited so I default to Safcom.

Vindu vichangeanga

Applause Applause Applause As long as it costs less/same to send money from Airtel to Safcom

@vvs this is a game changer.. also look at the post paid KES 2,500 by Telkom


The post paid of ksh.2,500 per month by Telkom
25GB of data
Unlimited on-net calls
800 off-net minutes
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obiero
#84 Posted : Wednesday, April 11, 2018 6:12:32 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
The reality is that M-Pesa is the preferred (mobile money) choice for many vendors. Many vendors/establishments accept just M-Pesa that one has no choice but to use M-Pesa.

I prefer using Airtel Money where possible coz it's cheaper BUT my choices are limited so I default to Safcom.

Vindu vichangeanga

Applause Applause Applause As long as it costs less/same to send money from Airtel to Safcom

@vvs this is a game changer.. also look at the post paid KES 2,500 by Telkom


The post paid of ksh.2,500 per month by Telkom
25GB of data
Unlimited on-net calls
800 off-net minutes

I like what is happening in the Telco space in Kenya

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Ericsson
#85 Posted : Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:33:15 AM
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https://www.standardmedi...-to-post-paid-customers

The country’s third largest mobile service provider Telkom Kenya is banking on post-paid mobile subscribers to expand market share. The telco yesterday unveiled new post-paid offerings in the latest move likely to stoke competition and price wars in a sector that has seen intense activity in the recent past.
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aemathenge
#86 Posted : Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:01:11 PM
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Take is a mistake to lend anything to Kenians.

A big Mistake.

Ericsson wrote:
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2001277269/telkom-turns-to-post-paid-customers

The country’s third largest mobile service provider Telkom Kenya is banking on post-paid mobile subscribers to expand market share. The telco yesterday unveiled new post-paid offerings in the latest move likely to stoke competition and price wars in a sector that has seen intense activity in the recent past.
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sparkly
#87 Posted : Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:55:58 PM
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They take a deposit and limit the credit amount.

E.g. 1000 Karibu by Safaricom takes a deposit of KShs 1,000 and limits credit to KShs 1,500.

aemathenge wrote:
Take is a mistake to lend anything to Kenians.

A big Mistake.

Ericsson wrote:
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2001277269/telkom-turns-to-post-paid-customers

The country’s third largest mobile service provider Telkom Kenya is banking on post-paid mobile subscribers to expand market share. The telco yesterday unveiled new post-paid offerings in the latest move likely to stoke competition and price wars in a sector that has seen intense activity in the recent past.



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Wororo
#88 Posted : Monday, April 23, 2018 3:18:41 PM
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https://www.nation.co.ke...0840-26tbe7z/index.html

It is understood that in crafting the merger, a valuation conducted on both companies put Airtel at 15 per cent higher than Telkom Kenya. Since Airtel is contributing the entire business, the arrangement is that it will issue shareholder loans to the merged entity, repayable in four years. If in four years the government and Helios will not have repaid the loan, Airtel will take control of the combined entity. Enough of the boring details.
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Ericsson
#89 Posted : Monday, April 23, 2018 3:46:05 PM
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Wororo wrote:
https://www.nation.co.ke/oped/opinion/Airtel-Telkom-merger-might-not-tilt-telecoms-market-/440808-4420840-26tbe7z/index.html

It is understood that in crafting the merger, a valuation conducted on both companies put Airtel at 15 per cent higher than Telkom Kenya. Since Airtel is contributing the entire business, the arrangement is that it will issue shareholder loans to the merged entity, repayable in four years. If in four years the government and Helios will not have repaid the loan, Airtel will take control of the combined entity. Enough of the boring details.



And with that let's forget about the merger,it ain't gonna happen
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VituVingiSana
#90 Posted : Monday, April 23, 2018 4:40:52 PM
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Safcom has little to worry about from the merger for the near future.
The confusion that reigns within a merger of this sort isn't good for customers or (disgruntled) employees.

How will Equitel be affected?

On a side note, my purchase cost of the Faiba modem has been offset by buying (cheaper) data bundles vs Airtel and Safcom. I still use Safcom when and where necessary but my usage on Safcom has significantly reduced within Nairobi and Mombasa.
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