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KQ posts 2.035 billion PAT
sparkly
#21 Posted : Friday, June 04, 2010 12:30:51 PM
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gathinga wrote:
Not good at all

Turnover down 1b from prior period
Operating profit down 2.2b despite 5.7b reduction in fuel costs
Overheads up 3.4b (28%)


waaaii! No wonder the sell offs. How's the cashflow?
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qw25041985
#22 Posted : Friday, June 04, 2010 12:38:48 PM
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I think we know how the passanger numbers look like. One one side kenya tourism board side that tourism was up 18% . One the otherside i hope the ash problem willnt affect KQ passanger numbers. So i also expect gud numbers.
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the deal
#23 Posted : Friday, June 04, 2010 2:11:26 PM
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qw25041985 wrote:
I think we know how the passanger numbers look like. One one side kenya tourism board side that tourism was up 18% . One the otherside i hope the ash problem willnt affect KQ passanger numbers. So i also expect gud numbers.

i remember sleeping @ a cold Oliver Tambo Airport in Joburg on 25-08-09 cause KQ staff were on strike...hope theyre happy now that they have the cheddar...we dont want BA type strikes...the Ash will definitely affect Q1 numbers...but take heart it was not peak season...@sparkly i expect the sell of to be short lived...then we will point higher again..theres still money to be made here...
gathinga
#24 Posted : Friday, June 04, 2010 2:59:44 PM
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the deal wrote:
qw25041985 wrote:
I think we know how the passanger numbers look like. One one side kenya tourism board side that tourism was up 18% . One the otherside i hope the ash problem willnt affect KQ passanger numbers. So i also expect gud numbers.

i remember sleeping @ a cold Oliver Tambo Airport in Joburg on 25-08-09 cause KQ staff were on strike...hope theyre happy now that they have the cheddar...we dont want BA type strikes...the Ash will definitely affect Q1 numbers...but take heart it was not peak season...@sparkly i expect the sell of to be short lived...then we will point higher again..theres still money to be made here...

despite these despicable results, the market has treated KQ with kid gloves over the years since 2003, I expect a sell off followed quickly by rapid restocking and upward traction
2012
#25 Posted : Friday, June 04, 2010 3:19:35 PM
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Forget today. The real test is from Monday with the orders placed today. I hope you all managed to place your sell orders @48 smile

BBI will solve it
:)
VituVingiSana
#26 Posted : Friday, June 04, 2010 3:20:23 PM
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Compare Apples to Apples:

Operating Results: 1H was 162mn & 2H was 1.84bn (11x) so 2H was very good for them.

I am ignoring fuel hedges for now... there is much more to that...

If KQ can pull off a similar Operating Performance (1H 2009 had strikes which affected ENTIRE network of KQ whereas Ash cloud affected only Europe) in 1H 2010 then there are good tidings.

The results are NOT as good as I expected (& I am a little disappointed) but compared to many other airlines KQ has done well... so will it gain traction in 2010?
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VituVingiSana
#27 Posted : Friday, June 04, 2010 3:27:13 PM
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KQ took delivery of 2 E-170s, will take 2 E-190s during the year as well as 2 737-300s...

This seems to be for an increased presence in the African markets (4 hours or less)...

The Embraers may be for even shorter journeys 2 hours or less... so does that mean more regional destinations (starting with Juba)?

Apparently, KQ has not given up on Malindi & Lamu but are faced with poor airport conditions at these locations... They need ATRs not Embraers for these airports!
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the deal
#28 Posted : Friday, June 04, 2010 3:44:11 PM
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@VVS 2010 looks good but be worried of oil prices...i think they will hit 90-100 bob/barrel as the global economy recovers...theyre lauching 7 new routes i.e Luanda,Jeddah and Rome...i think mngmnt need to reduce those salaries and allowances theyre costly..
the deal
#29 Posted : Friday, June 04, 2010 3:50:40 PM
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2012 wrote:
Forget today. The real test is from Monday with the orders placed today. I hope you all managed to place your sell orders @48 smile

whats your buying price 48 forget...we wont go that low...mayb 52 then we will power up..
VituVingiSana
#30 Posted : Friday, June 04, 2010 4:14:04 PM
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@thedeal - Which 7 new destinations in 2010?

Juba (Announced)
Muscat (Announced)

Jeddah (You mentioned)
Rome (You mentioned)
Luanda (You mentioned)

Which others?
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