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SHOCKED - Less than 15,000 Nairobian's earning above 100k
MugundaMan
#191 Posted : Monday, March 05, 2018 9:03:06 AM
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There are more than 70,000 Kenyans earning above 100K who pay taxes and work in the formal sector


Easy answers as to why this number is so low yet houses are coming up like weeds in far flung suburbs of Nairobi and the streets are clogged with gleaming vehicles.

1. Payslip nation (loud and vocal as it is) is just a very tiny chunk of the Kenyan economy. The Kenyan economy is dominated by corporates and the informal sector, which is the largest in Africa.. It might be a bitter pill to swallow for payslip nation, but that ka-hawker, taking to his heels fleeing kanjo daily while selling cheap Chinese goods on Tom Mboya street from 5pm to midnight (after spending the whole morning farming at his mugunda) probably makes more than the average payslipper per month, tax-free to boot.

2. One to ten person SME's earn a huge chunk of Kenyan income. The wise ones don't fritter away everything trying to pay themselves "high" salaries. They pump back earnings into organic growth.

3. A good number of small passive investors also do not appear in the numbers because their income is taxed at source as dividends and/or interest and thus will not show up in the struggling PAYE rolls.

4. Income and net worth are two different animals. I see some young corporates earning 500k+ per month doing PAYE thinking they are big shots, renting in Lavington, sipping martinis at Urban eatery with their gleaming BMW's (on loans of course) parked outside, fly to Zanzibar and Dubai monthly, yet own a big juicy zero. Contrast with some of the property site visits. Mama mboga types and sober young students with years worth of savings securing their future and getting ahead pole pole, a plot at a time.

5. Corruption:sad but true in Kenya. Trickle down effect down to the kept dogo dogo/ slay queen on the street. Let us pray and hope this will change in our lifetime.

6. Foreign investors. No secret that Kenya is a magnet for the middle classes from not just Somalia, S.Sudan, Uganda, Rwanda and so on, but increasingly, Europe and China and other nations as well. Like the french mama who came with 25 million after selling her house in Paris. That 25m is not captured in the numbers. Unfortunately she got swindled proper and lost it all.

7. Kenyan diaspora and diaspora returnees. Are huge investors hapo. Some toiled in New Jersey cleaning old white people's backsides for decades while you chekelead them, then came back to gently retire in comfort. Their savings also will not be captured in payslip nation statistics.

8. Serial borrowers. Usual they belong to category 1 above (payslip nation). Cars, furniture, even the shirt on their back is on loans. In Texas they say big hat, no cattle. Nuff sed.

8. Other factors beyond the scope of this post
winmak
#192 Posted : Monday, March 05, 2018 12:07:38 PM
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Joined: 12/1/2007
Posts: 539
Location: Nakuru
MugundaMan wrote:
Quote:

There are more than 70,000 Kenyans earning above 100K who pay taxes and work in the formal sector


Easy answers as to why this number is so low yet houses are coming up like weeds in far flung suburbs of Nairobi and the streets are clogged with gleaming vehicles.

1. Payslip nation (loud and vocal as it is) is just a very tiny chunk of the Kenyan economy. The Kenyan economy is dominated by corporates and the informal sector, which is the largest in Africa.. It might be a bitter pill to swallow for payslip nation, but that ka-hawker, taking to his heels fleeing kanjo daily while selling cheap Chinese goods on Tom Mboya street from 5pm to midnight (after spending the whole morning farming at his mugunda) probably makes more than the average payslipper per month, tax-free to boot.

2. One to ten person SME's earn a huge chunk of Kenyan income. The wise ones don't fritter away everything trying to pay themselves "high" salaries. They pump back earnings into organic growth.

3. A good number of small passive investors also do not appear in the numbers because their income is taxed at source as dividends and/or interest and thus will not show up in the struggling PAYE rolls.

4. Income and net worth are two different animals. I see some young corporates earning 500k+ per month doing PAYE thinking they are big shots, renting in Lavington, sipping martinis at Urban eatery with their gleaming BMW's (on loans of course) parked outside, fly to Zanzibar and Dubai monthly, yet own a big juicy zero. Contrast with some of the property site visits. Mama mboga types and sober young students with years worth of savings securing their future and getting ahead pole pole, a plot at a time.

5. Corruption:sad but true in Kenya. Trickle down effect down to the kept dogo dogo/ slay queen on the street. Let us pray and hope this will change in our lifetime.

6. Foreign investors. No secret that Kenya is a magnet for the middle classes from not just Somalia, S.Sudan, Uganda, Rwanda and so on, but increasingly, Europe and China and other nations as well. Like the french mama who came with 25 million after selling her house in Paris. That 25m is not captured in the numbers. Unfortunately she got swindled proper and lost it all.

7. Kenyan diaspora and diaspora returnees. Are huge investors hapo. Some toiled in New Jersey cleaning old white people's backsides for decades while you chekelead them, then came back to gently retire in comfort. Their savings also will not be captured in payslip nation statistics.

8. Serial borrowers. Usual they belong to category 1 above (payslip nation). Cars, furniture, even the shirt on their back is on loans. In Texas they say big hat, no cattle. Nuff sed.

8. Other factors beyond the scope of this post


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Lolest!
#193 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:43:26 AM
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Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
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The Economic Survey 2018, released Wednesday shows that workers offering financial and insurance services pocketed an average Sh146,630 per month, representing a growth of less than one per cent.

Reduced or slower growth in bankers’ profitability mainly due on commercial bank lending rates imposed September 2016 could be behind the measly pay increment.

Workers in institutions supplying electricity, gas and air-conditioning on average earned Sh134,442 monthly, up from Sh121,998 in 2016, representing rise of 10.2 per cent


This captures workers in firms like Kenya Power , Geothermal Development Corporation and KenGen .

Dominant sectors of the economy such as agriculture, which accounts for 31 per cent of gross domestic product, manufacturing (10 per cent) and real estate (7.8 per cent) paid the least, fuelling the growing pay inequality in Kenya.

Using the average wage as a yard stick in assessing sector earnings may, however, not paint a clear picture since senior staff ordinarily skew the rankings given that a majority of employees earn less than the average pay.

Firms in administrative and support services space remained the third-most lucrative employer in the private sector, registering average wages of Sh123, 685 per month, up Sh116, 156, reflecting a growth of 6.4 per cent.

https://www.businessdail...523564-oxum2f/index.html
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kayhara
#194 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2018 10:25:18 AM
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Joined: 5/5/2011
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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/TweetingBandit/status/1028170633857966081[/TWEET]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/...wzX5xgkHJL6pSPjN8pY/view

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/...useholds-earn-in-a-month
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murchr
#195 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2018 7:23:53 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
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Who is still shocked, I am. But this is the organized labor in the informal sector, a matatu driver makes about 30-50K
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#196 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2018 4:35:26 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mv_ufanisi
#197 Posted : Thursday, November 01, 2018 5:11:53 PM
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Joined: 1/15/2010
Posts: 625
murchr wrote:


I hope KRA doesn't come after him. That is the downside of publicity.
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