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obiero wrote:obiero wrote:Realtreaty wrote:obiero wrote:winmak wrote:obiero wrote:Horton wrote:Gatheuzi wrote:ARAP CHARLES wrote:Ebenyo wrote:[quote=Realtreaty]  Going ex-DVD this Friday after having gone up to 17.50 high Will it maintain the tempo of atleast 15 and move up to its original level 20-25 like its mates @Equity How much will the new to be created shares dilute the Pombe? and could dilution increase activity as we saw in safaricom thereby helping tap investors to fund M-coop cash as a line to make money through Mobile money? The price will come down ex-dvd due to dillution.not everyone will like to be dilluted. Ebenyo... BONUS DEADLINE IS JUNE 30TH. It seems big dillution will come after then for now i forsee a shorter ride from where we are today.. Bonus shares don't lead to dilution per se. Every investor will be allocated prorata number of shares based on their holdings at the closing date. Price will take the direction south, but is compensated by a much bigger float leading to a similar market cap nontheless and of course assuming efficient market dynamics. Im not so sure about that. There are more shares in the market willth demand remaining about the same all other things being equal I am sure @gatheuzi may be wrong on this aspect.. The share will need to go down ex bonus.. By how much? Ideally, it should be the equivalent of one's holding i.e if one's portfolio was KES 17,000 cum bonus it should remain at the same KES 17,000 ex bonus but with a lower price per share. By approximately 20% Yes. That sounds about right.. The current price is fully baked in.. All the dividend plus bonus news has been factored in.. I will be truly surprised if the share does not dip tomorrow  This Man Obiero is out and is scouting for a drop to go back in. Obiero is gunning for 12 again after moving out at 17 raking in 5 sh per share. So if I can remember his holding @ 21500 before the dvd then he has (21500*5 = 107500 ) but I do not know his actual buying price.That price @12 he want back will deny him any other money. May be he bought when price was @IPO range of 9 many years back. Wishing him all best....sisi bado tuko Ndaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaniii!!! Lol. I don't wish COOP ill.. I like its consistency and as a tier I bank it will definitely thrive, but right now im uneasy by the way our economy is being handled Now at KES 16.65.. http://live.mystocks.co.ke/m/stock=COOP[/quote] Is this still cut bonus even when it's ex dividend? I read somewhere that books closure for bonus issue is 30th June. Someone kindly con firm. Learning to sit on my hands
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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ombaalbt wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:Realtreaty wrote:obiero wrote:winmak wrote:obiero wrote:Horton wrote:Gatheuzi wrote:ARAP CHARLES wrote:Ebenyo wrote:[quote=Realtreaty] Going ex-DVD this Friday after having gone up to 17.50 high Will it maintain the tempo of atleast 15 and move up to its original level 20-25 like its mates @Equity How much will the new to be created shares dilute the Pombe? and could dilution increase activity as we saw in safaricom thereby helping tap investors to fund M-coop cash as a line to make money through Mobile money? The price will come down ex-dvd due to dillution.not everyone will like to be dilluted. Ebenyo... BONUS DEADLINE IS JUNE 30TH. It seems big dillution will come after then for now i forsee a shorter ride from where we are today.. Bonus shares don't lead to dilution per se. Every investor will be allocated prorata number of shares based on their holdings at the closing date. Price will take the direction south, but is compensated by a much bigger float leading to a similar market cap nontheless and of course assuming efficient market dynamics. Im not so sure about that. There are more shares in the market willth demand remaining about the same all other things being equal I am sure @gatheuzi may be wrong on this aspect.. The share will need to go down ex bonus.. By how much? Ideally, it should be the equivalent of one's holding i.e if one's portfolio was KES 17,000 cum bonus it should remain at the same KES 17,000 ex bonus but with a lower price per share. By approximately 20% Yes. That sounds about right.. The current price is fully baked in.. All the dividend plus bonus news has been factored in.. I will be truly surprised if the share does not dip tomorrow This Man Obiero is out and is scouting for a drop to go back in. Obiero is gunning for 12 again after moving out at 17 raking in 5 sh per share. So if I can remember his holding @ 21500 before the dvd then he has (21500*5 = 107500 ) but I do not know his actual buying price.That price @12 he want back will deny him any other money. May be he bought when price was @IPO range of 9 many years back. Wishing him all best....sisi bado tuko Ndaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaniii!!! Lol. I don't wish COOP ill.. I like its consistency and as a tier I bank it will definitely thrive, but right now im uneasy by the way our economy is being handled Now at KES 16.65.. http://live.mystocks.co.ke/m/stock=COOP[/quote] Is this still cut bonus even when it's ex dividend? I read somewhere that books closure for bonus issue is 30th June. Someone kindly con firm. You are right. It's trading ex div but cum bonus. The charts were against a continued rally. Tomorrow we go to the 15s http://live.mystocks.co.ke/m/stock=COOP
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:@Obiero
I salute you on your prediction of coop bank and share price appreciation @Ericsson asante but mine aren't predictions. I work with inside info  @obiero insider extraordinaire
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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Tomorrow is awaited and Monday even more so
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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More people planning to buy more shares if prices were to move south.
How low it can move down depends on how people speculate it to move North in near future.
When will the new shares start trading?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Realtreaty wrote:More people planning to buy more shares if prices were to move south.
How low it can move down depends on how people speculate it to move North in near future.
When will the new shares start trading? Probably end July or August Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Realtreaty wrote:More people planning to buy more shares if prices were to move south.
How low it can move down depends on how people speculate it to move North in near future.
When will the new shares start trading? Probably end July or August The Kingdom Bank.. A precious stock at the NSE, second only to KQ in investment returns power in the mid term
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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 Guys come with spades, shovels, axes, fork-jembes, hammers, trunks, and chain pullers as we need to lift and drive Co-op from where it has stagnated due to bad weather!! This is said to be the best liquid and mover stock but I wonder why we are not making money by price change as stocks like DTB, KCB, Equity have done? I an looking for this stock to come average FY 17 positive dividend of 85 to 100 cents.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Realtreaty wrote: Guys come with spades, shovels, axes, fork-jembes, hammers, trunks, and chain pullers as we need to lift and drive Co-op from where it has stagnated due to bad weather!! This is said to be the best liquid and mover stock but I wonder why we are not making money by price change as stocks like DTB, KCB, Equity have done? I an looking for this stock to come average FY 17 positive dividend of 85 to 100 cents. Dividend to be maintained at last year levels. Profit dip in 2017 compared to 2016 plus they issued bonus shares last year Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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The Kingdom has started warming up . It hit 17 today and is still on acceleration mode.
Can it hit 20 before FY 17 Results?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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Realtreaty wrote:The Kingdom has started warming up . It hit 17 today and is still on acceleration mode.
Can it hit 20 before FY 17 Results?
Your average buy price is 23/-? John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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One Month to go and get FY17
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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Spikes wrote:Realtreaty wrote:The Kingdom has started warming up . It hit 17 today and is still on acceleration mode.
Can it hit 20 before FY 17 Results?
Your average buy price is 23/-? @Realtreaty vunja kimya. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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High of 17.50 today Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,297
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Spikes wrote:Spikes wrote:Realtreaty wrote:The Kingdom has started warming up . It hit 17 today and is still on acceleration mode.
Can it hit 20 before FY 17 Results?
Your average buy price is 23/-? @Realtreaty vunja kimya. Hehehehehhee...... My dream price for this stock is 30-40 my dear. When it reached this price i targeted 50 but they brought caps
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,517 Location: nairobi
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06.03.2018.. I speak in code
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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This one In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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Realtreaty wrote:Spikes wrote:Spikes wrote:Realtreaty wrote:The Kingdom has started warming up . It hit 17 today and is still on acceleration mode.
Can it hit 20 before FY 17 Results?
Your average buy price is 23/-? @Realtreaty vunja kimya. Hehehehehhee...... My dream price for this stock is 30-40 my dear. When it reached this price i targeted 50 but they brought caps I wish you all the best brother  John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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