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obiero
#61 Posted : Saturday, February 10, 2018 11:30:40 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,337
Location: nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
starx wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:


The beloved KK you keep on praising was whooped by Kengen last year for a bet that I have since written of.

Surely a whole Chief cannot pay a mere USD 120?

I want to! How can I do so anonymously? M-Pesa shows my name. I owe you 12,000/-!!! It rankles me.

Both VVS and Sparkly want to remain anonymous. For a small cut, myself I do not worry about anonymity. If you both agree, I could pick the winnings from VVS at his favourite KK station in cash (drive-by) and pass it to Sparkly in the same fashion or any other way he wishes
Proposed commission Ksh. 2,000.00 each way smile



OK wish you well!!+ 2000 ngai Sad

Hehehe
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
VituVingiSana
#62 Posted : Saturday, February 10, 2018 11:55:23 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,385
Location: Nairobi
sparkly wrote:
Spikes wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Elephant Man wrote:
CMA should lift suspension of trading in this counter after say two working days (i.e. from Monday 12th February 2018) and allow for price discovery in the market...my two cents

That makes sense. After all we know the offer by Seaboard is 40/- and if someone wants to offer more then let them do so...

I recall Access, Rea, KQ followed the same path.. In simple logic if someone buys at above KES 40 they shall be forced to sell it for KES 40 based on the 50 plus one vote. I guess that's why it had to be suspended


What the above two guys are asking for is for the suspension to be lifted to allow for price manipulation aka price discovery-Let's not pretend it will not happen.

What is this new information that was not factored into the share pricing that will cause the share price to magically increase after a takeover bid has been declared?

Price Discovery is not Price Manipulation. Period.

True

I agree price discovery is not price manipulation in normal course of trading but in this case does it mean NSE is an inefficient market?

What will be the motive of the guys(speculators) buying the stock in those two days?

What is this new information/knowledge that was'nt there before that warrants this price discovery apart from the takeover?


I can see @vvs and @obiero are inspired by greed and they can say anything that could add value into their holding. It's okay to be greedy but lifting Unga trading suspension is tantamount to price manipulation. The market has already spoken.

False. Where's the price manipulation?
You do not need to buy the shares.
You do not need to sell the shares.
Seaboard needs not offer a different price for the shares.
A shareholder/investor may choose to buy/sell shares as they so please.
Why should a shareholder be locked in [Carbacid had been suspended for ages and Matiba sold out to Centum at a low value] until the end of the Offer Period?

What does it achieve to "lock" investors into Unga (or any shares) for another 7 months? Unga shareholders cannot exit and re-invest in other opportunities. Perhaps I want to sell Unga at 35 today and buy KK at 15 but now i am stuck.

And YES, I invest to make money NOT as charity. Offer me 22/- for KK and they are yours!


The beloved KK you keep on praising was whooped by Kengen last year for a bet that I have since written of.

Surely a whole Chief cannot pay a mere USD 120?


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sparkly
#63 Posted : Sunday, February 11, 2018 6:07:33 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Elephant Man wrote:
CMA should lift suspension of trading in this counter after say two working days (i.e. from Monday 12th February 2018) and allow for price discovery in the market...my two cents

That makes sense. After all we know the offer by Seaboard is 40/- and if someone wants to offer more then let them do so...

I recall Access, Rea, KQ followed the same path.. In simple logic if someone buys at above KES 40 they shall be forced to sell it for KES 40 based on the 50 plus one vote. I guess that's why it had to be suspended


What the above two guys are asking for is for the suspension to be lifted to allow for price manipulation aka price discovery-Let's not pretend it will not happen.

What is this new information that was not factored into the share pricing that will cause the share price to magically increase after a takeover bid has been declared?

Price Discovery is not Price Manipulation. Period.

True

I agree price discovery is not price manipulation in normal course of trading but in this case does it mean NSE is an inefficient market?

What will be the motive of the guys(speculators) buying the stock in those two days?

What is this new information/knowledge that was'nt there before that warrants this price discovery apart from the takeover?


I can see @vvs and @obiero are inspired by greed and they can say anything that could add value into their holding. It's okay to be greedy but lifting Unga trading suspension is tantamount to price manipulation. The market has already spoken.

False. Where's the price manipulation?
You do not need to buy the shares.
You do not need to sell the shares.
Seaboard needs not offer a different price for the shares.
A shareholder/investor may choose to buy/sell shares as they so please.
Why should a shareholder be locked in [Carbacid had been suspended for ages and Matiba sold out to Centum at a low value] until the end of the Offer Period?

What does it achieve to "lock" investors into Unga (or any shares) for another 7 months? Unga shareholders cannot exit and re-invest in other opportunities. Perhaps I want to sell Unga at 35 today and buy KK at 15 but now i am stuck.

And YES, I invest to make money NOT as charity. Offer me 22/- for KK and they are yours!


The beloved KK you keep on praising was whooped by Kengen last year for a bet that I have since written of.

Surely a whole Chief cannot pay a mere USD 120?

I want to! How can I do so anonymously? M-Pesa shows my name. I owe you 12,000/-!!! It rankles me.


Well you don't need to worry about your identity since I have written off that miscellaneous amount. In any case what will I do with your identity... stalk you? steal your KK shares? send hitmen?
Life is short. Live passionately.
VituVingiSana
#64 Posted : Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:13:05 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,385
Location: Nairobi
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Elephant Man wrote:
CMA should lift suspension of trading in this counter after say two working days (i.e. from Monday 12th February 2018) and allow for price discovery in the market...my two cents

That makes sense. After all we know the offer by Seaboard is 40/- and if someone wants to offer more then let them do so...

I recall Access, Rea, KQ followed the same path.. In simple logic if someone buys at above KES 40 they shall be forced to sell it for KES 40 based on the 50 plus one vote. I guess that's why it had to be suspended


What the above two guys are asking for is for the suspension to be lifted to allow for price manipulation aka price discovery-Let's not pretend it will not happen.

What is this new information that was not factored into the share pricing that will cause the share price to magically increase after a takeover bid has been declared?

Price Discovery is not Price Manipulation. Period.

True

I agree price discovery is not price manipulation in normal course of trading but in this case does it mean NSE is an inefficient market?

What will be the motive of the guys(speculators) buying the stock in those two days?

What is this new information/knowledge that was'nt there before that warrants this price discovery apart from the takeover?


I can see @vvs and @obiero are inspired by greed and they can say anything that could add value into their holding. It's okay to be greedy but lifting Unga trading suspension is tantamount to price manipulation. The market has already spoken.

False. Where's the price manipulation?
You do not need to buy the shares.
You do not need to sell the shares.
Seaboard needs not offer a different price for the shares.
A shareholder/investor may choose to buy/sell shares as they so please.
Why should a shareholder be locked in [Carbacid had been suspended for ages and Matiba sold out to Centum at a low value] until the end of the Offer Period?

What does it achieve to "lock" investors into Unga (or any shares) for another 7 months? Unga shareholders cannot exit and re-invest in other opportunities. Perhaps I want to sell Unga at 35 today and buy KK at 15 but now i am stuck.

And YES, I invest to make money NOT as charity. Offer me 22/- for KK and they are yours!


The beloved KK you keep on praising was whooped by Kengen last year for a bet that I have since written of.

Surely a whole Chief cannot pay a mere USD 120?

I want to! How can I do so anonymously? M-Pesa shows my name. I owe you 12,000/-!!! It rankles me.


Well you don't need to worry about your identity since I have written off that miscellaneous amount. In any case what will I do with your identity... stalk you? steal your KK shares? send hitmen?

In my books, you won that 12k fair and square!

LMAO... You had mentioned bitcoin [or another cryptocurrency]...
Do you have one in mind?
How does it work?
Does it allow for anonymity?

I was invited for an ICO but it seemed like a pyramid scheme to me and I was like the "bottom" guy!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#65 Posted : Sunday, February 11, 2018 2:19:17 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Elephant Man wrote:
CMA should lift suspension of trading in this counter after say two working days (i.e. from Monday 12th February 2018) and allow for price discovery in the market...my two cents

That makes sense. After all we know the offer by Seaboard is 40/- and if someone wants to offer more then let them do so...

I recall Access, Rea, KQ followed the same path.. In simple logic if someone buys at above KES 40 they shall be forced to sell it for KES 40 based on the 50 plus one vote. I guess that's why it had to be suspended


What the above two guys are asking for is for the suspension to be lifted to allow for price manipulation aka price discovery-Let's not pretend it will not happen.

What is this new information that was not factored into the share pricing that will cause the share price to magically increase after a takeover bid has been declared?

Price Discovery is not Price Manipulation. Period.

True

I agree price discovery is not price manipulation in normal course of trading but in this case does it mean NSE is an inefficient market?

What will be the motive of the guys(speculators) buying the stock in those two days?

What is this new information/knowledge that was'nt there before that warrants this price discovery apart from the takeover?


I can see @vvs and @obiero are inspired by greed and they can say anything that could add value into their holding. It's okay to be greedy but lifting Unga trading suspension is tantamount to price manipulation. The market has already spoken.

False. Where's the price manipulation?
You do not need to buy the shares.
You do not need to sell the shares.
Seaboard needs not offer a different price for the shares.
A shareholder/investor may choose to buy/sell shares as they so please.
Why should a shareholder be locked in [Carbacid had been suspended for ages and Matiba sold out to Centum at a low value] until the end of the Offer Period?

What does it achieve to "lock" investors into Unga (or any shares) for another 7 months? Unga shareholders cannot exit and re-invest in other opportunities. Perhaps I want to sell Unga at 35 today and buy KK at 15 but now i am stuck.

And YES, I invest to make money NOT as charity. Offer me 22/- for KK and they are yours!


The beloved KK you keep on praising was whooped by Kengen last year for a bet that I have since written of.

Surely a whole Chief cannot pay a mere USD 120?

I want to! How can I do so anonymously? M-Pesa shows my name. I owe you 12,000/-!!! It rankles me.


Well you don't need to worry about your identity since I have written off that miscellaneous amount. In any case what will I do with your identity... stalk you? steal your KK shares? send hitmen?

In my books, you won that 12k fair and square!

LMAO... You had mentioned bitcoin [or another cryptocurrency]...
Do you have one in mind?
How does it work?
Does it allow for anonymity?

I was invited for an ICO but it seemed like a pyramid scheme to me and I was like the "bottom" guy!


Just go hustle for your weekly bundles. Your debt is forgiven.
Life is short. Live passionately.
VituVingiSana
#66 Posted : Sunday, February 11, 2018 2:24:22 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,385
Location: Nairobi
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Elephant Man wrote:
CMA should lift suspension of trading in this counter after say two working days (i.e. from Monday 12th February 2018) and allow for price discovery in the market...my two cents

That makes sense. After all we know the offer by Seaboard is 40/- and if someone wants to offer more then let them do so...

I recall Access, Rea, KQ followed the same path.. In simple logic if someone buys at above KES 40 they shall be forced to sell it for KES 40 based on the 50 plus one vote. I guess that's why it had to be suspended


What the above two guys are asking for is for the suspension to be lifted to allow for price manipulation aka price discovery-Let's not pretend it will not happen.

What is this new information that was not factored into the share pricing that will cause the share price to magically increase after a takeover bid has been declared?

Price Discovery is not Price Manipulation. Period.

True

I agree price discovery is not price manipulation in normal course of trading but in this case does it mean NSE is an inefficient market?

What will be the motive of the guys(speculators) buying the stock in those two days?

What is this new information/knowledge that was'nt there before that warrants this price discovery apart from the takeover?


I can see @vvs and @obiero are inspired by greed and they can say anything that could add value into their holding. It's okay to be greedy but lifting Unga trading suspension is tantamount to price manipulation. The market has already spoken.

False. Where's the price manipulation?
You do not need to buy the shares.
You do not need to sell the shares.
Seaboard needs not offer a different price for the shares.
A shareholder/investor may choose to buy/sell shares as they so please.
Why should a shareholder be locked in [Carbacid had been suspended for ages and Matiba sold out to Centum at a low value] until the end of the Offer Period?

What does it achieve to "lock" investors into Unga (or any shares) for another 7 months? Unga shareholders cannot exit and re-invest in other opportunities. Perhaps I want to sell Unga at 35 today and buy KK at 15 but now i am stuck.

And YES, I invest to make money NOT as charity. Offer me 22/- for KK and they are yours!


The beloved KK you keep on praising was whooped by Kengen last year for a bet that I have since written of.

Surely a whole Chief cannot pay a mere USD 120?

I want to! How can I do so anonymously? M-Pesa shows my name. I owe you 12,000/-!!! It rankles me.


Well you don't need to worry about your identity since I have written off that miscellaneous amount. In any case what will I do with your identity... stalk you? steal your KK shares? send hitmen?

In my books, you won that 12k fair and square!

LMAO... You had mentioned bitcoin [or another cryptocurrency]...
Do you have one in mind?
How does it work?
Does it allow for anonymity?

I was invited for an ICO but it seemed like a pyramid scheme to me and I was like the "bottom" guy!


Just go hustle for your weekly bundles. Your debt is forgiven.

Nah, gotta pay it. Just need to find a way.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
starx
#67 Posted : Sunday, February 11, 2018 7:30:28 PM
Rank: Hello

Joined: 12/1/2017
Posts: 7
Location: na
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Elephant Man wrote:
CMA should lift suspension of trading in this counter after say two working days (i.e. from Monday 12th February 2018) and allow for price discovery in the market...my two cents

That makes sense. After all we know the offer by Seaboard is 40/- and if someone wants to offer more then let them do so...

I recall Access, Rea, KQ followed the same path.. In simple logic if someone buys at above KES 40 they shall be forced to sell it for KES 40 based on the 50 plus one vote. I guess that's why it had to be suspended


What the above two guys are asking for is for the suspension to be lifted to allow for price manipulation aka price discovery-Let's not pretend it will not happen.

What is this new information that was not factored into the share pricing that will cause the share price to magically increase after a takeover bid has been declared?

Price Discovery is not Price Manipulation. Period.

True

I agree price discovery is not price manipulation in normal course of trading but in this case does it mean NSE is an inefficient market?

What will be the motive of the guys(speculators) buying the stock in those two days?

What is this new information/knowledge that was'nt there before that warrants this price discovery apart from the takeover?


I can see @vvs and @obiero are inspired by greed and they can say anything that could add value into their holding. It's okay to be greedy but lifting Unga trading suspension is tantamount to price manipulation. The market has already spoken.

False. Where's the price manipulation?
You do not need to buy the shares.
You do not need to sell the shares.
Seaboard needs not offer a different price for the shares.
A shareholder/investor may choose to buy/sell shares as they so please.
Why should a shareholder be locked in [Carbacid had been suspended for ages and Matiba sold out to Centum at a low value] until the end of the Offer Period?

What does it achieve to "lock" investors into Unga (or any shares) for another 7 months? Unga shareholders cannot exit and re-invest in other opportunities. Perhaps I want to sell Unga at 35 today and buy KK at 15 but now i am stuck.

And YES, I invest to make money NOT as charity. Offer me 22/- for KK and they are yours!


The beloved KK you keep on praising was whooped by Kengen last year for a bet that I have since written of.

Surely a whole Chief cannot pay a mere USD 120?

I want to! How can I do so anonymously? M-Pesa shows my name. I owe you 12,000/-!!! It rankles me.


Well you don't need to worry about your identity since I have written off that miscellaneous amount. In any case what will I do with your identity... stalk you? steal your KK shares? send hitmen?

In my books, you won that 12k fair and square!

LMAO... You had mentioned bitcoin [or another cryptocurrency]...
Do you have one in mind?
How does it work?
Does it allow for anonymity?

I was invited for an ICO but it seemed like a pyramid scheme to me and I was like the "bottom" guy!


Just go hustle for your weekly bundles. Your debt is forgiven.

Nah, gotta pay it. Just need to find a way.


There you go again! Just in case you missed post #59

Starx wrote:
Both VVS and Sparkly want to remain anonymous. For a small cut, myself I do not worry about anonymity. If you both agree, I could pick the winnings from VVS at his favourite KK station in cash (drive-by) and pass it to Sparkly in the same fashion or any other way he wishes
Proposed commission Ksh. 2,000.00 each way smile




Ebenyo
#68 Posted : Sunday, February 11, 2018 9:04:41 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,022
Location: Kitale
starx wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Elephant Man wrote:
CMA should lift suspension of trading in this counter after say two working days (i.e. from Monday 12th February 2018) and allow for price discovery in the market...my two cents

That makes sense. After all we know the offer by Seaboard is 40/- and if someone wants to offer more then let them do so...

I recall Access, Rea, KQ followed the same path.. In simple logic if someone buys at above KES 40 they shall be forced to sell it for KES 40 based on the 50 plus one vote. I guess that's why it had to be suspended


What the above two guys are asking for is for the suspension to be lifted to allow for price manipulation aka price discovery-Let's not pretend it will not happen.

What is this new information that was not factored into the share pricing that will cause the share price to magically increase after a takeover bid has been declared?

Price Discovery is not Price Manipulation. Period.

True

I agree price discovery is not price manipulation in normal course of trading but in this case does it mean NSE is an inefficient market?

What will be the motive of the guys(speculators) buying the stock in those two days?

What is this new information/knowledge that was'nt there before that warrants this price discovery apart from the takeover?


I can see @vvs and @obiero are inspired by greed and they can say anything that could add value into their holding. It's okay to be greedy but lifting Unga trading suspension is tantamount to price manipulation. The market has already spoken.

False. Where's the price manipulation?
You do not need to buy the shares.
You do not need to sell the shares.
Seaboard needs not offer a different price for the shares.
A shareholder/investor may choose to buy/sell shares as they so please.
Why should a shareholder be locked in [Carbacid had been suspended for ages and Matiba sold out to Centum at a low value] until the end of the Offer Period?

What does it achieve to "lock" investors into Unga (or any shares) for another 7 months? Unga shareholders cannot exit and re-invest in other opportunities. Perhaps I want to sell Unga at 35 today and buy KK at 15 but now i am stuck.

And YES, I invest to make money NOT as charity. Offer me 22/- for KK and they are yours!


The beloved KK you keep on praising was whooped by Kengen last year for a bet that I have since written of.

Surely a whole Chief cannot pay a mere USD 120?

I want to! How can I do so anonymously? M-Pesa shows my name. I owe you 12,000/-!!! It rankles me.


Well you don't need to worry about your identity since I have written off that miscellaneous amount. In any case what will I do with your identity... stalk you? steal your KK shares? send hitmen?

In my books, you won that 12k fair and square!

LMAO... You had mentioned bitcoin [or another cryptocurrency]...
Do you have one in mind?
How does it work?
Does it allow for anonymity?

I was invited for an ICO but it seemed like a pyramid scheme to me and I was like the "bottom" guy!


Just go hustle for your weekly bundles. Your debt is forgiven.

Nah, gotta pay it. Just need to find a way.


There you go again! Just in case you missed post #59

Starx wrote:
Both VVS and Sparkly want to remain anonymous. For a small cut, myself I do not worry about anonymity. If you both agree, I could pick the winnings from VVS at his favourite KK station in cash (drive-by) and pass it to Sparkly in the same fashion or any other way he wishes
Proposed commission Ksh. 2,000.00 each way smile






If vvs does not want his name to be known via mpesa;he just need to give the cash to a nearby mpesa kiosk with sparky number for direct deposit.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Spikes
#69 Posted : Sunday, February 11, 2018 10:03:52 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
Ebenyo wrote:
starx wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Elephant Man wrote:
CMA should lift suspension of trading in this counter after say two working days (i.e. from Monday 12th February 2018) and allow for price discovery in the market...my two cents

That makes sense. After all we know the offer by Seaboard is 40/- and if someone wants to offer more then let them do so...

I recall Access, Rea, KQ followed the same path.. In simple logic if someone buys at above KES 40 they shall be forced to sell it for KES 40 based on the 50 plus one vote. I guess that's why it had to be suspended


What the above two guys are asking for is for the suspension to be lifted to allow for price manipulation aka price discovery-Let's not pretend it will not happen.

What is this new information that was not factored into the share pricing that will cause the share price to magically increase after a takeover bid has been declared?

Price Discovery is not Price Manipulation. Period.

True

I agree price discovery is not price manipulation in normal course of trading but in this case does it mean NSE is an inefficient market?

What will be the motive of the guys(speculators) buying the stock in those two days?

What is this new information/knowledge that was'nt there before that warrants this price discovery apart from the takeover?


I can see @vvs and @obiero are inspired by greed and they can say anything that could add value into their holding. It's okay to be greedy but lifting Unga trading suspension is tantamount to price manipulation. The market has already spoken.

False. Where's the price manipulation?
You do not need to buy the shares.
You do not need to sell the shares.
Seaboard needs not offer a different price for the shares.
A shareholder/investor may choose to buy/sell shares as they so please.
Why should a shareholder be locked in [Carbacid had been suspended for ages and Matiba sold out to Centum at a low value] until the end of the Offer Period?

What does it achieve to "lock" investors into Unga (or any shares) for another 7 months? Unga shareholders cannot exit and re-invest in other opportunities. Perhaps I want to sell Unga at 35 today and buy KK at 15 but now i am stuck.

And YES, I invest to make money NOT as charity. Offer me 22/- for KK and they are yours!


The beloved KK you keep on praising was whooped by Kengen last year for a bet that I have since written of.

Surely a whole Chief cannot pay a mere USD 120?

I want to! How can I do so anonymously? M-Pesa shows my name. I owe you 12,000/-!!! It rankles me.


Well you don't need to worry about your identity since I have written off that miscellaneous amount. In any case what will I do with your identity... stalk you? steal your KK shares? send hitmen?

In my books, you won that 12k fair and square!

LMAO... You had mentioned bitcoin [or another cryptocurrency]...
Do you have one in mind?
How does it work?
Does it allow for anonymity?

I was invited for an ICO but it seemed like a pyramid scheme to me and I was like the "bottom" guy!


Just go hustle for your weekly bundles. Your debt is forgiven.

Nah, gotta pay it. Just need to find a way.


There you go again! Just in case you missed post #59

Starx wrote:
Both VVS and Sparkly want to remain anonymous. For a small cut, myself I do not worry about anonymity. If you both agree, I could pick the winnings from VVS at his favourite KK station in cash (drive-by) and pass it to Sparkly in the same fashion or any other way he wishes
Proposed commission Ksh. 2,000.00 each way smile






If vvs does not want his name to be known via mpesa;he just need to give the cash to a nearby mpesa kiosk with sparky number for direct deposit.


Direct transactions are forbidden by terms and rules of Mpesa.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
sparkly
#70 Posted : Sunday, February 11, 2018 10:28:45 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Ebenyo wrote:
starx wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Elephant Man wrote:
CMA should lift suspension of trading in this counter after say two working days (i.e. from Monday 12th February 2018) and allow for price discovery in the market...my two cents

That makes sense. After all we know the offer by Seaboard is 40/- and if someone wants to offer more then let them do so...

I recall Access, Rea, KQ followed the same path.. In simple logic if someone buys at above KES 40 they shall be forced to sell it for KES 40 based on the 50 plus one vote. I guess that's why it had to be suspended


What the above two guys are asking for is for the suspension to be lifted to allow for price manipulation aka price discovery-Let's not pretend it will not happen.

What is this new information that was not factored into the share pricing that will cause the share price to magically increase after a takeover bid has been declared?

Price Discovery is not Price Manipulation. Period.

True

I agree price discovery is not price manipulation in normal course of trading but in this case does it mean NSE is an inefficient market?

What will be the motive of the guys(speculators) buying the stock in those two days?

What is this new information/knowledge that was'nt there before that warrants this price discovery apart from the takeover?


I can see @vvs and @obiero are inspired by greed and they can say anything that could add value into their holding. It's okay to be greedy but lifting Unga trading suspension is tantamount to price manipulation. The market has already spoken.

False. Where's the price manipulation?
You do not need to buy the shares.
You do not need to sell the shares.
Seaboard needs not offer a different price for the shares.
A shareholder/investor may choose to buy/sell shares as they so please.
Why should a shareholder be locked in [Carbacid had been suspended for ages and Matiba sold out to Centum at a low value] until the end of the Offer Period?

What does it achieve to "lock" investors into Unga (or any shares) for another 7 months? Unga shareholders cannot exit and re-invest in other opportunities. Perhaps I want to sell Unga at 35 today and buy KK at 15 but now i am stuck.

And YES, I invest to make money NOT as charity. Offer me 22/- for KK and they are yours!


The beloved KK you keep on praising was whooped by Kengen last year for a bet that I have since written of.

Surely a whole Chief cannot pay a mere USD 120?

I want to! How can I do so anonymously? M-Pesa shows my name. I owe you 12,000/-!!! It rankles me.


Well you don't need to worry about your identity since I have written off that miscellaneous amount. In any case what will I do with your identity... stalk you? steal your KK shares? send hitmen?

In my books, you won that 12k fair and square!

LMAO... You had mentioned bitcoin [or another cryptocurrency]...
Do you have one in mind?
How does it work?
Does it allow for anonymity?

I was invited for an ICO but it seemed like a pyramid scheme to me and I was like the "bottom" guy!


Just go hustle for your weekly bundles. Your debt is forgiven.

Nah, gotta pay it. Just need to find a way.


There you go again! Just in case you missed post #59

Starx wrote:
Both VVS and Sparkly want to remain anonymous. For a small cut, myself I do not worry about anonymity. If you both agree, I could pick the winnings from VVS at his favourite KK station in cash (drive-by) and pass it to Sparkly in the same fashion or any other way he wishes
Proposed commission Ksh. 2,000.00 each way smile






If vvs does not want his name to be known via mpesa;he just need to give the cash to a nearby mpesa kiosk with sparky number for direct deposit.


Case closed. The Warren Buffett of Wazua is a typical Kenyan hustler. If only his KK had won, I would had made him 12k richer.
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