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hamburglar
#691 Posted : Tuesday, January 30, 2018 6:36:24 AM
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Posts: 887
masukuma wrote:
Two questions (short answer please the only choices available are [YES, NO and I DON'T KNOW] - no long justifications please - just be short and sweet)

@Alph - is there any Christian (in the standard description of a Christian) i.e. recognizing the divinity of Jesus and not doing any 'bad' or what you would consider a 'vice' eligible for heaven

@Mukiri - is there any Muslim (in the standard description of a Muslim) i.e. not accepting the divinity Jesus and not doing any 'bad' or what you would consider a 'vice' eligible for heaven



NO and NO. None of these nutjobs is going anywhere other than six feet under. No heaven for them.

Only atheists will go to heaven. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

So answer is NO, NO and YES. smile
Mukiri
#692 Posted : Tuesday, January 30, 2018 9:25:15 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
masukuma wrote:
tycho wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Two questions (short answer please the only choices available are [YES, NO and I DON'T KNOW] - no long justifications please - just be short and sweet)

@Alph - is there any Christian (in the standard description of a Christian) i.e. recognizing the divinity of Jesus and not doing any 'bad' or what you would consider a 'vice' eligible for heaven

@Mukiri - is there any Muslim (in the standard description of a Muslim) i.e. not accepting the divinity Jesus and not doing any 'bad' or what you would consider a 'vice' eligible for heaven

No.


Just for the sake of redundancy and clarity: @Alphdoti believes that ALL Christians are damned for as long as they are Christians?

That's what I gather - I am waiting for @Mukiri's response.

ANYBODY/EVERYBODY is eligible for heaven, if that is the prize. There was a thief who was assured of a place in heaven, on his last day on earth, never mind what (or not) religion he professed.

Proverbs 19:21
hamburglar
#693 Posted : Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:07:10 AM
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Posts: 887
Mukiri wrote:
masukuma wrote:
tycho wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Two questions (short answer please the only choices available are [YES, NO and I DON'T KNOW] - no long justifications please - just be short and sweet)

@Alph - is there any Christian (in the standard description of a Christian) i.e. recognizing the divinity of Jesus and not doing any 'bad' or what you would consider a 'vice' eligible for heaven

@Mukiri - is there any Muslim (in the standard description of a Muslim) i.e. not accepting the divinity Jesus and not doing any 'bad' or what you would consider a 'vice' eligible for heaven

No.


Just for the sake of redundancy and clarity: @Alphdoti believes that ALL Christians are damned for as long as they are Christians?

That's what I gather - I am waiting for @Mukiri's response.

ANYBODY/EVERYBODY is eligible for heaven, if that is the prize. There was a thief who was assured of a place in heaven, on his last day on earth, never mind what (or not) religion he professed.


So Mukiri, do you think us atheists will go to heaven or hell?
AlphDoti
#694 Posted : Tuesday, January 30, 2018 11:07:26 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
tycho wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Two questions (short answer please the only choices available are [YES, NO and I DON'T KNOW] - no long justifications please - just be short and sweet)

@Alph - is there any Christian (in the standard description of a Christian) i.e. recognizing the divinity of Jesus and not doing any 'bad' or what you would consider a 'vice' eligible for heaven

@Mukiri - is there any Muslim (in the standard description of a Muslim) i.e. not accepting the divinity Jesus and not doing any 'bad' or what you would consider a 'vice' eligible for heaven

No.

Just for the sake of redundancy and clarity: @Alphdoti believes that ALL Christians are damned for as long as they are Christians?

That's what I gather - I am waiting for @Mukiri's response.

@tycho, that is not what I believe. Remember the question instruction was just a simple answer... I know I was going to be given a chance to elaborate.

I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT ALL CHRISTIANS ARE DAMNED FOR HELL.

@mavegs, if you are a true Christian, i.e. if you truly follow the teachings of Jesus Christ pbuh, in shaa allah you shall go to the Jannah. Jesus pbuh said seek yee the truth and the truth shall free you.

Now what you're following, we don't know. Are you following your church or are you following Jesus Christ pbuh. If you're following your church, the chances of going into jahanum is very high. If you are following Jesus Christ pbuh, in shaa allah you shall go to Jannah.

don't SET YOUR OWN QUESTION... I ASKED
Quote:
is there any Christian (in the standard description of a Christian) i.e. recognizing the divinity of Jesus and not doing any 'bad' or what you would consider a 'vice' eligible for heaven

YOU SAID 'NO'.

Mukiri
#695 Posted : Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:17:58 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
hamburglar wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
masukuma wrote:
tycho wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Two questions (short answer please the only choices available are [YES, NO and I DON'T KNOW] - no long justifications please - just be short and sweet)

@Alph - is there any Christian (in the standard description of a Christian) i.e. recognizing the divinity of Jesus and not doing any 'bad' or what you would consider a 'vice' eligible for heaven

@Mukiri - is there any Muslim (in the standard description of a Muslim) i.e. not accepting the divinity Jesus and not doing any 'bad' or what you would consider a 'vice' eligible for heaven

No.


Just for the sake of redundancy and clarity: @Alphdoti believes that ALL Christians are damned for as long as they are Christians?

That's what I gather - I am waiting for @Mukiri's response.

ANYBODY/EVERYBODY is eligible for heaven, if that is the prize. There was a thief who was assured of a place in heaven, on his last day on earth, never mind what (or not) religion he professed.


So Mukiri, do you think us atheists will go to heaven or hell?

I wouldn't be stressed with neither. Make your heaven (or hell) on Earth. You making this place better for yourself and others, in your wake, is what matters. Most Holy Books are rife those words.

Proverbs 19:21
hamburglar
#696 Posted : Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:55:37 PM
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Joined: 12/17/2011
Posts: 887
Mukiri wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
masukuma wrote:
tycho wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Two questions (short answer please the only choices available are [YES, NO and I DON'T KNOW] - no long justifications please - just be short and sweet)

@Alph - is there any Christian (in the standard description of a Christian) i.e. recognizing the divinity of Jesus and not doing any 'bad' or what you would consider a 'vice' eligible for heaven

@Mukiri - is there any Muslim (in the standard description of a Muslim) i.e. not accepting the divinity Jesus and not doing any 'bad' or what you would consider a 'vice' eligible for heaven

No.


Just for the sake of redundancy and clarity: @Alphdoti believes that ALL Christians are damned for as long as they are Christians?

That's what I gather - I am waiting for @Mukiri's response.

ANYBODY/EVERYBODY is eligible for heaven, if that is the prize. There was a thief who was assured of a place in heaven, on his last day on earth, never mind what (or not) religion he professed.


So Mukiri, do you think us atheists will go to heaven or hell?

I wouldn't be stressed with neither. Make your heaven (or hell) on Earth. You making this place better for yourself and others, in your wake, is what matters. Most Holy Books are rife those words.


Aii. You are an expert at evading questions dude. Lol.
AlphDoti
#697 Posted : Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:53:47 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
hamburglar wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
masukuma wrote:
tycho wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Two questions (short answer please the only choices available are [YES, NO and I DON'T KNOW] - no long justifications please - just be short and sweet)

@Alph - is there any Christian (in the standard description of a Christian) i.e. recognizing the divinity of Jesus and not doing any 'bad' or what you would consider a 'vice' eligible for heaven

@Mukiri - is there any Muslim (in the standard description of a Muslim) i.e. not accepting the divinity Jesus and not doing any 'bad' or what you would consider a 'vice' eligible for heaven

No.

Just for the sake of redundancy and clarity: @Alphdoti believes that ALL Christians are damned for as long as they are Christians?

That's what I gather - I am waiting for @Mukiri's response.

ANYBODY/EVERYBODY is eligible for heaven, if that is the prize. There was a thief who was assured of a place in heaven, on his last day on earth, never mind what (or not) religion he professed.

So Mukiri, do you think us atheists will go to heaven or hell?

I wouldn't be stressed with neither. Make your heaven (or hell) on Earth. You making this place better for yourself and others, in your wake, is what matters. Most Holy Books are rife those words.

Aii. You are an expert at evading questions dude. Lol.

I noticed that too... But what do you expect, they cannot defend their stand... Because most of what they follow is what the church says, not what their book says.
masukuma
#698 Posted : Tuesday, January 30, 2018 4:43:36 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
listen @Mukiri
this is the question
Quote:
@Mukiri - is there any Muslim (in the standard description of a Muslim) i.e. not accepting the divinity Jesus and not doing any 'bad' or what you would consider a 'vice' eligible for heaven

it's a multiple choice question and the following are the choices
NO, YES, I DON'T KNOW!

Don't by a coward or try to be clever or both then try to set your own question and then proceed to answer it! we want one of these
Quote:

NO, YES, I DON'T KNOW!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Mukiri
#699 Posted : Wednesday, January 31, 2018 7:11:10 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
masukuma wrote:
listen @Mukiri
this is the question
Quote:
@Mukiri - is there any Muslim (in the standard description of a Muslim) i.e. not accepting the divinity Jesus and not doing any 'bad' or what you would consider a 'vice' eligible for heaven

it's a multiple choice question and the following are the choices
NO, YES, I DON'T KNOW!

Don't by a coward or try to be clever or both then try to set your own question and then proceed to answer it! we want one of these
Quote:

NO, YES, I DON'T KNOW!

Thought my answer was rather obvious... Unlike some, whose primary form of worship leans on kill, steal destroy, evidenced by constant fighting, agitation and things that don't bring about harmony instead of winning... I believe Christianity to be all encompassing. The hated Samaritan was hailed, Saul the murderer became Paul the Apostle, and the thief on the cross was promised a seat in heaven. So YES! My God is not a respecter of persons, He considers us all His children and would have us do to each other, as we'd do unto Him...

YES

Proverbs 19:21
Mukiri
#700 Posted : Wednesday, January 31, 2018 7:24:51 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
Christianity is no guarantee of passage to heaven, much the same way being something else doesn't necessarily mean condemnation.

For it is written, some will say they knew Him, but He'll deny them....
It is written, In as much as you did, even to the very least of them, you did unto Me...

Proverbs 19:21
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