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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Estates had playgrounds, halls and other spaces
All these are currently occupied by churches...
Authorities have failed to provide services and the spaces have been given to churches... you may wonder why there are more churches than services...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:Estates had playgrounds, halls and other spaces
All these are currently occupied by churches...
Authorities have failed to provide services and the spaces have been given to churches... you may wonder why there are more churches than services... Assuming what you're saying has reasonable degree of truth then we should also note that there are things called 'Church services'. So you'd still be fooling yourself by inferring that churches and services are exclusive of each other.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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tycho wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Estates had playgrounds, halls and other spaces
All these are currently occupied by churches...
Authorities have failed to provide services and the spaces have been given to churches... you may wonder why there are more churches than services... Assuming what you're saying has reasonable degree of truth then we should also note that there are things called 'Church services'. So you'd still be fooling yourself by inferring that churches and services are exclusive of each other. I'm talking about recreational halls... They used to be place of the creative economy activities... sports, art, cultural events, conferences etc This was part of town planning... but we have lost it and most of the halls are currently being occupied by churches... The services used to keep the youth engaged...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:tycho wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Estates had playgrounds, halls and other spaces
All these are currently occupied by churches...
Authorities have failed to provide services and the spaces have been given to churches... you may wonder why there are more churches than services... Assuming what you're saying has reasonable degree of truth then we should also note that there are things called 'Church services'. So you'd still be fooling yourself by inferring that churches and services are exclusive of each other. I'm talking about recreational halls... They used to be place of the creative economy activities... sports, art, cultural events, conferences etc This was part of town planning... but we have lost it and most of the halls are currently being occupied by churches... The services used to keep the youth engaged... 1. The halls were not exclusive for youth 2.Programs that used to cater for the youth from govt and corporate organizations dwindled 3. The youth activities became unsustainable 4. Other users like the churches gained prominence. That is the impression of Churches snuffed out youth activities in community halls is unsustainable. It's like blind blame.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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tycho wrote:AlphDoti wrote:tycho wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Estates had playgrounds, halls and other spaces
All these are currently occupied by churches...
Authorities have failed to provide services and the spaces have been given to churches... you may wonder why there are more churches than services... Assuming what you're saying has reasonable degree of truth then we should also note that there are things called 'Church services'. So you'd still be fooling yourself by inferring that churches and services are exclusive of each other. I'm talking about recreational halls... They used to be place of the creative economy activities... sports, art, cultural events, conferences etc This was part of town planning... but we have lost it and most of the halls are currently being occupied by churches... The services used to keep the youth engaged... 1. The halls were not exclusive for youth 2.Programs that used to cater for the youth from govt and corporate organizations dwindled 3. The youth activities became unsustainable 4. Other users like the churches gained prominence. That is the impression of Churches snuffed out youth activities in community halls is unsustainable. It's like blind blame. Anything to sell the hate/blame narrative. Makes me wonder does painting an opposing force bad, automatically make you good? Or is the driving force a heavenly reward? Like the virgins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Mukiri wrote:tycho wrote:AlphDoti wrote:tycho wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Estates had playgrounds, halls and other spaces
All these are currently occupied by churches...
Authorities have failed to provide services and the spaces have been given to churches... you may wonder why there are more churches than services... Assuming what you're saying has reasonable degree of truth then we should also note that there are things called 'Church services'. So you'd still be fooling yourself by inferring that churches and services are exclusive of each other. I'm talking about recreational halls... They used to be place of the creative economy activities... sports, art, cultural events, conferences etc This was part of town planning... but we have lost it and most of the halls are currently being occupied by churches... The services used to keep the youth engaged... 1. The halls were not exclusive for youth 2.Programs that used to cater for the youth from govt and corporate organizations dwindled 3. The youth activities became unsustainable 4. Other users like the churches gained prominence. That is the impression of Churches snuffed out youth activities in community halls is unsustainable. It's like blind blame. Anything to sell the hate/blame narrative. Makes me wonder does painting an opposing force bad, automatically make you good? Or is the driving force a heavenly reward? Like the virgins @mukiri wasn't you who was talking about having a decent conversation, even agree to disagree? didn't you condemn irking each other? Why don't you give a recourse and counter respectfully like @tycho?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Side show. Either that, or you see what you choose to see. I ask simple plain questions, but to hoodwink (either yourself or the populace) you try mix them with drama. I'll ask again, in the hope that anyone reading it will first declutter his mind and see it for what it is... does painting an opposing force bad, automatically make you good? Or is the driving force a 'stipulated' heavenly reward? Like the virgins (Hadith 2687 from Google)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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AlphDoti wrote:Mukiri wrote:Me I'd asked a genuine question earlier? What are female jihadists promised? 72 virgin men? And all these virgins, once 'popped' what happens? Re-virgination? There is nothing like this in Islam my friend @Mukiri. I think I've clarified this before. But of course I understand the huicy stories the media give you is so enticing. You see, one of the biggest propaganda...in this world that has been invented is of 72 virgins. This has been amplified in the western countries many times that nowadays, many people accept it as fact and truth. In fact, the media wants people...to believe that this is a Muslim's reward for suicide. The Quran and valid authentic Hadithsare very clear about anyone who commits suicide. The way Islam has condemned suicidemaking as grave sin, then it is unthinkable for its followers to regard sex as a reward if they were to take their lives. Today, the myth of the 72 virginsremains potent ammunition for those who wish to see their point of view prevail against Islam. Entities like the media have twisted this alleged saying to suit their fancies and smear Islam with ridicule and humiliation. @mukiri, you have recycled this propaganda many times before. I replied to you four years ago in post #12: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:13:25 PMIs all you know about is toys, kesha quickies and virgins?? The real truth is that the only person who believes in 72 virgins is you! All the other people in Wazua have learnt that was a propaganda and not part of Islam.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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So if you don't get virgins, sex toys and quickies in the Mosque, what is your motivation spreading the same propaganda about others, that you seem not to like about your religion? And will your prophet Muhamed be happy and welcome you to your heaven, because of how you behave? When you were converted, were you told to behave that way?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Mukiri wrote:So if you don't get virgins, sex toys and quickies in the Mosque, what is your motivation spreading the same propaganda about others, that you seem not to like about your religion?
And will your prophet Muhamed be happy and welcome you to your heaven, because of how you behave? When you were converted, were you told to behave that way? No we don't go for quickies in the mosque the way you were doing on keshas... and we neither sell s*x toys in mosque or anywhere else like you were promoting coz that is fornication... And we don't say anything that is a lie... What I have raised where pastors are involved in vices in the the church openly is fact... If bringing that to the light hurts you, then sort it.
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