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What is FGM really ?
Cv254K
#11 Posted : Friday, January 19, 2018 5:44:59 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Now female medical doctors themselves are in courts to legalize it as soon as possible.

Reminds me of the song "legslizaaaaaation,or the ganja herb"

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If we consider circumcision as a form of Male genital mutilation. And that it only exists for cultural and religious reasons. It has no known medical benefit. Before anyone says Aids, please read the literature behind the push by medics to have male circumcision. It was about hygiene. Nothing else. In Europe where circumcision rates are below 20%, they also have the lowest HIV rates. Good hygiene.




I think the best-available evidence: meta-analyses, longitudinal studies, Randomized controlled trials show that circumcision has health benefits in respect of some STDs, UTIs, and especially HIV. Ata kama huku culture and religion are usually the main reasons people practise circumcision, the claim that it has no medical benefit is false. See examples: a meta-analysis on STIs, a randomized controlled trial in South Africa, and a longitudinal study in New Zealand. A study in Kenya has shown circumcision not to have any significant benefit against nonulcerative STIs, but even its results shows that in absolute terms,numbers affected by these STIs were higher in controls than in circumcised group, and that circumcision could lower risk of transmission to partners. You can point us to your literature but ensure that it at least reports its methodology so that we can see how they have conducted their studies.

"In Europe where circumcision rates are below 20%, they also have the lowest HIV rates." This is a very flawed logic because of factors such as higher rates of condom use (as a contraceptive) in Europe compared to Africa that would favour Europe in terms of prevalence rates. A recent study has addressed this issue by comparing reasons why Israel has lower HIV rates compared to France and Netherlands (all these countries have low HIV prevalence). The results are that the lower rate in Israel can be explained significantly by the routine circumcision in Israel. These results are part of the reasons why there has been calls for Europe to develop a policy favouring routine male circumcision.

Does FGM have any benefits? The only studies I can find on FGM are those showing its link to complications during child birth. While a pro-choice argument could be made, the challenge is that most communities practise it on children and through crude methods. Crude methods that were being used for boys have been replaced by medical procedure in many communities. I do not think FGM be provided safely as a medical option without any adverse health effects. It is difficult to support it even as a pro-choice option.
Dahatre
#12 Posted : Saturday, January 20, 2018 3:25:52 PM
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Not much to say about MGM:
Except,

1. If you decide not to circumcise your boy child, TEACH them how to keep that foreskin clean!!!
2. If you decide to get circumcised as a grown man: make sure you are screened for for maradhis, especially diabetes---Otherwise that kindoda may not heal.

On FGM:
Cosmetic FGM=Piercings of the various parts of the Vijayjay (Clit/labia rings etc), and other procedures such as trimming inner labia or clitoral hood--aka Labiaplasty and Clitoral hood reduction.

These are generally elective procedures that can be performed medically and are often performed on adult women at their request.

What is not cosmetic and is indeed harmful especially if done on kids is type 1,2 and 3 FGM.
See pictures here
1. Removing the clitoris partially or completely
2. Removing the labia+clitoris
3. Removing clitoris, labia and sewing the child’s outer labia partially or completely

No doctor worth his/her profession should engage in this level of harm. Any adult doing this to kids below the age of consent should be thrown in jail Pap! Culture be damned!

Impunity
#13 Posted : Saturday, January 20, 2018 6:32:14 PM
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I can't view the pictures for my personal reasons.
They can irreversibly sent my appetite.
Anyway I think cosmetic is saw a as long as it doesn't leave a rough scar.
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Cv254K
#14 Posted : Sunday, January 21, 2018 1:42:12 AM
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Piercings ni Cosmetic FGM? Na guys who put pins on their members? Cosmetic Circumcision/ Cosmetic MGM?

My issue with FGM is that it would be hard to give informed consent even on pro-choice basis due to cultural meanings of FGM. Most cases of 'consent' would likely be of undue influence either from husbands and the community. The basis of Labiaplasty and Clitoral hood reduction is to improve sexual functioning for the bearer or correct congenital defects. FGM, as a cultural practice, is intended to lower sexual functioning (libido) of the bearer. Can we consider cosmetic FGM as a strategy to discourage the non-cosmetic FGM? I do not think this would work.
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