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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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Now female medical doctors themselves are in courts to legalize it as soon as possible. Reminds me of the song "legslizaaaaaation,or the ganja herb"  Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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AlphDoti wrote:Just for the record, as far I am concerned, FGM can be BUT not a MUST. If there is any harm in female circumcision then it can even be BANNED (and I support) because it has been proven by scientific and medically proven that the way it is done is harmful to the health of the girl child.
And similarly, the male circumcision is not a MUST but is RECOMMENDED. For the male, there is no scientific and medical harm to male circumcision. All we hear is that oh it is painful, or oh it is risky, or oh it is deforming, or oh it is sexually diminishing, or oh there is no health benefits.
But we know it is hygienic. Urine droplets remaining inside the sac can cause irritation and become smelly from the body heat. This sometimes leads to infection... That was my post #29: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 5:10:22 PM
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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What is FGM? I think it is just one of the body cosmetics...
To me FGM has no beneficial significance. To me, FGM has no sanctions. According to me, it is not sanctioned.
FGM is a cultural practice. It was found in parts of Africa and Arabia...
It is not a must for a woman to undergo FGM. Countries differ over the issue. Some countries sanction it whereas others do not. Whoever chooses not to do it is not considered to have committed a sin.
I welcome the recent tougher legislation and enforcement against FGM. Personally I support banning of this practice, because it is not applicable in the modern world.
I don't know if circumcised woman enjoys sex more or less. But for male it is better if he is circumcised. Scientist have also supported this practice, male circumcision...
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/21/2009 Posts: 602
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Impunity wrote:Now female medical doctors themselves are in courts to legalize it as soon as possible. Reminds me of the song "legslizaaaaaation,or the ganja herb" That doctor should stay in her lane and leave legalese to lawyers. She is conflating decriminalization with legalization. She is really defending the right of women to choose FGM without being jailed for it. Unfortunately, most FGM is performed on children 8-15. These are not grown women and she should know better, or have a lawyer argue her point.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/21/2009 Posts: 602
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AlphDoti wrote:What is FGM? I think it is just one of the body cosmetics...
To me FGM has no beneficial significance. To me, FGM has no sanctions. According to me, it is not sanctioned.
FGM is a cultural practice. It was found in parts of Africa and Arabia...
It is not a must for a woman to undergo FGM. Countries differ over the issue. Some countries sanction it whereas others do not. Whoever chooses not to do it is not considered to have committed a sin.
I welcome the recent tougher legislation and enforcement against FGM. Personally I support banning of this practice, because it is not applicable in the modern world.
I don't know if circumcised woman enjoys sex more or less. But for male it is better if he is circumcised. Scientist have also supported this practice, male circumcision... cosmetic for whom?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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if it can be an elective surgery done in a medical center by an adult - shauri yake!! it's like the whole banning of shisha thing... oh... it's like 200 cigarettes... sawa... a grown-up engaging in it has the same rights as you - you are not the boss of them right? sometimes i wonder... we will start seeing people with distasteful things as whole body tatoos, nose ringg, big discs in their ear lobes and split tongues  we will rationalize it as - watu wazima wameamua kufanya vile wanataka and are able to live with the consequences of their actions By the way - not that these actions have no consequences on how you will be viewed, if you show up at my desk with a split tongue looking for a job - hutapata! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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Impunity wrote:Now female medical doctors themselves are in courts to legalize it as soon as possible. Reminds me of the song "legslizaaaaaation,or the ganja herb" I had missed this until I saw it huko Facebook a.k.a MKZ. First things first. The average IQ of the Kenyan society is quite low if those discussions are anything to go by. The insults that poor doctor has received on Facebook. And all from idiots who didn't even get to hear what she was saying. The good doctor is arguing for elective FGM for adults who would wish to have it. Her opposers argue kids will suffer from FGM. Clearly, we have a hearing problem in this country. If we consider circumcision as a form of Male genital mutilation. And that it only exists for cultural and religious reasons. It has no known medical benefit. Before anyone says Aids, please read the literature behind the push by medics to have male circumcision. It was about hygiene. Nothing else. In Europe where circumcision rates are below 20%, they also have the lowest HIV rates. Good hygiene. Now suppose I went to court and argued that young boys in this country are forced to undergo MGM before they are of majority age where they can make the decision for themselves. Legally, the doctor's argument is very solid.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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FRM2011 wrote:Impunity wrote:Now female medical doctors themselves are in courts to legalize it as soon as possible. Reminds me of the song "legslizaaaaaation,or the ganja herb" I had missed this until I saw it huko Facebook a.k.a MKZ. First things first. The average IQ of the Kenyan society is quite low if those discussions are anything to go by. The insults that poor doctor has received on Facebook. And all from idiots who didn't even get to hear what she was saying. The good doctor is arguing for elective FGM for adults who would wish to have it. Her opposers argue kids will suffer from FGM. Clearly, we have a hearing problem in this country. If we consider circumcision as a form of Male genital mutilation. And that it only exists for cultural and religious reasons. It has no known medical benefit. Before anyone says Aids, please read the literature behind the push by medics to have male circumcision. It was about hygiene. Nothing else. In Europe where circumcision rates are below 20%, they also have the lowest HIV rates. Good hygiene. Now suppose I went to court and argued that young boys in this country are forced to undergo MGM before they are of majority age where they can make the decision for themselves. Legally, the doctor's argument is very solid. Good post 
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/15/2015 Posts: 681 Location: Kenya
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AlphDoti wrote:FRM2011 wrote:Impunity wrote:Now female medical doctors themselves are in courts to legalize it as soon as possible. Reminds me of the song "legslizaaaaaation,or the ganja herb" I had missed this until I saw it huko Facebook a.k.a MKZ. First things first. The average IQ of the Kenyan society is quite low if those discussions are anything to go by. The insults that poor doctor has received on Facebook. And all from idiots who didn't even get to hear what she was saying. The good doctor is arguing for elective FGM for adults who would wish to have it. Her opposers argue kids will suffer from FGM. Clearly, we have a hearing problem in this country. If we consider circumcision as a form of Male genital mutilation. And that it only exists for cultural and religious reasons. It has no known medical benefit. Before anyone says Aids, please read the literature behind the push by medics to have male circumcision. It was about hygiene. Nothing else. In Europe where circumcision rates are below 20%, they also have the lowest HIV rates. Good hygiene. Now suppose I went to court and argued that young boys in this country are forced to undergo MGM before they are of majority age where they can make the decision for themselves. Legally, the doctor's argument is very solid. Good post
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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FRM2011 wrote:Impunity wrote:Now female medical doctors themselves are in courts to legalize it as soon as possible. Reminds me of the song "legslizaaaaaation,or the ganja herb" I had missed this until I saw it huko Facebook a.k.a MKZ. First things first. The average IQ of the Kenyan society is quite low if those discussions are anything to go by. The insults that poor doctor has received on Facebook. And all from idiots who didn't even get to hear what she was saying. The good doctor is arguing for elective FGM for adults who would wish to have it. Her opposers argue kids will suffer from FGM. Clearly, we have a hearing problem in this country. If we consider circumcision as a form of Male genital mutilation. And that it only exists for cultural and religious reasons. It has no known medical benefit. Before anyone says Aids, please read the literature behind the push by medics to have male circumcision. It was about hygiene. Nothing else. In Europe where circumcision rates are below 20%, they also have the lowest HIV rates. Good hygiene. Now suppose I went to court and argued that young boys in this country are forced to undergo MGM before they are of majority age where they can make the decision for themselves. Legally, the doctor's argument is very solid. MGM is real! The Men Who Want Their Foreskin BackAll Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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