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Stanchart Q3 2017 profit falls 38%
Ericsson
#1 Posted : Tuesday, November 14, 2017 8:41:29 PM
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Profit before tax falls 38% to ksh.6.87bn
Net profit falls 38% to sh.4.7bn
Earnings from loans drop to sh.10bn down from 11.4bn
Loan book dropped from sh.122.7bn in December to sh.114.2bn
Dividend payout dropped to 4.50 from sh.6
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
washiku
#2 Posted : Tuesday, November 14, 2017 9:17:13 PM
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obiero
#3 Posted : Tuesday, November 14, 2017 9:19:09 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Profit before tax falls 38% to ksh.6.87bn
Net profit falls 38% to sh.4.7bn
Earnings from loans drop to sh.10bn down from 11.4bn
Loan book dropped from sh.122.7bn in December to sh.114.2bn
Dividend payout dropped to 4.50 from sh.6

Tragic set of results

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Angelica _ann
#4 Posted : Tuesday, November 14, 2017 10:32:04 PM
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KCB, Equity & Coop Bank seems to be on the right track, rest are struggling!!!
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obiero
#5 Posted : Tuesday, November 14, 2017 10:57:56 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
KCB, Equity & Coop Bank seems to be on the right track, rest are struggling!!!

I told you guys that only the tier 1, big three would fair best

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
peep
#6 Posted : Tuesday, November 14, 2017 11:08:48 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Profit before tax falls 38% to ksh.6.87bn
Net profit falls 38% to sh.4.7bn
Earnings from loans drop to sh.10bn down from 11.4bn
Loan book dropped from sh.122.7bn in December to sh.114.2bn
Dividend payout dropped to 4.50 from sh.6

Q3 has dividend payout?Sad
wukan
#7 Posted : Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:08:54 AM
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obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
KCB, Equity & Coop Bank seems to be on the right track, rest are struggling!!!

I told you guys that only the tier 1, big three would fair best


Looks more of a case of 'fake it till you make it'. Wait for IFRS 9
VituVingiSana
#8 Posted : Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:58:12 AM
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wukan wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
KCB, Equity & Coop Bank seems to be on the right track, rest are struggling!!!

I told you guys that only the tier 1, big three would fair best


Looks more of a case of 'fake it till you make it'. Wait for IFRS 9

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Some folks are in denial. SCBK is they type that would take the hit early on. Others are postponing the inevitable. Let's wait for 1Q 2018 results and then the audited FY 2018 results.

I expect a Rights Issue and/or Bond Issue and/or Secondary Capital Raise and/or dividend reduction will be in the pipeline in 2018 for some banks.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#9 Posted : Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:00:16 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
KCB, Equity & Coop Bank seems to be on the right track, rest are struggling!!!

I told you guys that only the tier 1, big three would fair best


Looks more of a case of 'fake it till you make it'. Wait for IFRS 9

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Some folks are in denial. SCBK is they type that would take the hit early on. Others are postponing the inevitable. Let's wait for 1Q 2018 results and then the audited FY 2018 results.

I expect a Rights Issue and/or Bond Issue and/or Secondary Capital Raise and/or dividend reduction will be in the pipeline in 2018 for some banks.


You have spoken about this for long and we have seen nothing happening.
Banking in kenya shifted from the beberu banks to the local ones
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
kawi254
#10 Posted : Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:16:46 AM
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SCBK must be taking the Nakumatt bad loan hit.

But how does a bank like Standard Chartered loan to Nakumatt without security/tangible assets?
KulaRaha
#11 Posted : Wednesday, November 15, 2017 3:54:21 PM
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SCB has Nakumatt Head Office as collateral.

SCB also has real provisions, not cooked ones like your fav 3 local chefs....
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
Angelica _ann
#12 Posted : Wednesday, November 15, 2017 3:58:09 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
SCB has Nakumatt Head Office as collateral.

SCB also has real provisions, not cooked ones like your fav 3 local chefs....


smile smile smile d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! Hata Coop Bank?
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
VituVingiSana
#13 Posted : Wednesday, November 15, 2017 7:08:05 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
KCB, Equity & Coop Bank seems to be on the right track, rest are struggling!!!

I told you guys that only the tier 1, big three would fair best


Looks more of a case of 'fake it till you make it'. Wait for IFRS 9

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Some folks are in denial. SCBK is they type that would take the hit early on. Others are postponing the inevitable. Let's wait for 1Q 2018 results and then the audited FY 2018 results.

I expect a Rights Issue and/or Bond Issue and/or Secondary Capital Raise and/or dividend reduction will be in the pipeline in 2018 for some banks.

You have spoken about this for long and we have seen nothing happening.
Banking in kenya shifted from the beberu banks to the local ones

It doesn't matter whether the bank is beberu or not... Anyway, wait for 1Q 2018 results and then FY 2018 results.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#14 Posted : Friday, January 05, 2018 9:12:34 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
wukan wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
KCB, Equity & Coop Bank seems to be on the right track, rest are struggling!!!

I told you guys that only the tier 1, big three would fair best


Looks more of a case of 'fake it till you make it'. Wait for IFRS 9

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Some folks are in denial. SCBK is they type that would take the hit early on. Others are postponing the inevitable. Let's wait for 1Q 2018 results and then the audited FY 2018 results.

I expect a Rights Issue and/or Bond Issue and/or Secondary Capital Raise and/or dividend reduction will be in the pipeline in 2018 for some banks.

You have spoken about this for long and we have seen nothing happening.
Banking in kenya shifted from the beberu banks to the local ones

It doesn't matter whether the bank is beberu or not... Anyway, wait for 1Q 2018 results and then FY 2018 results.

Matters are dicy but CBK states that the core capital of most local banks has sufficient buffer

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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