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Sweetness of death
tycho
#51 Posted : Friday, September 22, 2017 2:21:38 PM
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Still on Spinoza:
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He contended that everything that exists in Nature (i.e., everything in the Universe) is one Reality (substance) and there is only one set of rules governing the whole of the reality which surrounds us and of which we are part. Spinoza viewed God and Nature as two names for the same reality


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Spinoza was a thoroughgoing determinist who held that absolutely everything that happens occurs through the operation of necessity. For him, even human behaviour is fully determined, with freedom being our capacity to know we are determined and to understand why we act as we do. By forming more "adequate" ideas about what we do and our emotions or affections, we become the adequate cause of our effects (internal or external), which entails an increase in activity (versus passivity). This means that we become both more free and more like God, as Spinoza argues in the Scholium to Prop. 49, Part II. However, Spinoza also held that everything must necessarily happen the way that it does. Therefore, humans have no free will. They believe, however, that their will is free. This illusionary perception of freedom stems from our human consciousness, experience, and indifference to prior natural causes. Humans think they are free but they ″dream with their eyes open″. For Spinoza, our actions are guided entirely by natural impulses. In his letter to G. H. Schuller (Letter 58), he wrote: "men are conscious of their desire and unaware of the causes by which [their desires] are determined."
T-Bag
#52 Posted : Wednesday, January 03, 2018 10:08:45 AM
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We fear death, but what if dying isn't as bad as we think? To live is joy to die is peace what is not to like?
https://www.theguardian....-isnt-as-bad-as-we-think
I AM trust in GOD, I AM belief in THYSELF
2012
#53 Posted : Wednesday, January 03, 2018 2:00:46 PM
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T-Bag wrote:
We fear death, but what if dying isn't as bad as we think? To live is joy to die is peace what is not to like?
https://www.theguardian....isnt-as-bad-as-we-think


It's the ultimate of all unknowns. That's why we fear it so much. On the same note, do you think animals fear death or pain when facing their predictors?

Anyway, it looks like the fear of death has gone down from the many suicides we're seeing especially from well to do individuals in the entertainment industry around the world. I think it's 2 days ago when a known radio personality committed suicide bearly 2 months since another known entertainment event organizer committed.

BBI will solve it
:)
tycho
#54 Posted : Wednesday, January 03, 2018 5:22:48 PM
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2012 wrote:
T-Bag wrote:
We fear death, but what if dying isn't as bad as we think? To live is joy to die is peace what is not to like?
https://www.theguardian....isnt-as-bad-as-we-think


It's the ultimate of all unknowns. That's why we fear it so much. On the same note, do you think animals fear death or pain when facing their predictors?

Anyway, it looks like the fear of death has gone down from the many suicides we're seeing especially from well to do individuals in the entertainment industry around the world. I think it's 2 days ago when a known radio personality committed suicide bearly 2 months since another known entertainment event organizer committed.


Death is unknown by the ignorant. The wise always think about death and some even get to know and understand it!

tycho
#55 Posted : Wednesday, January 03, 2018 5:24:35 PM
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2012 wrote:
T-Bag wrote:
We fear death, but what if dying isn't as bad as we think? To live is joy to die is peace what is not to like?
https://www.theguardian....isnt-as-bad-as-we-think


It's the ultimate of all unknowns. That's why we fear it so much. On the same note, do you think animals fear death or pain when facing their predictors?

Anyway, it looks like the fear of death has gone down from the many suicides we're seeing especially from well to do individuals in the entertainment industry around the world. I think it's 2 days ago when a known radio personality committed suicide bearly 2 months since another known entertainment event organizer committed.


Death is unknown by the ignorant. The wise always think about death and some even get to know and understand it!

2012
#56 Posted : Wednesday, January 03, 2018 6:30:56 PM
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tycho wrote:
2012 wrote:
T-Bag wrote:
We fear death, but what if dying isn't as bad as we think? To live is joy to die is peace what is not to like?
https://www.theguardian....isnt-as-bad-as-we-think


It's the ultimate of all unknowns. That's why we fear it so much. On the same note, do you think animals fear death or pain when facing their predictors?

Anyway, it looks like the fear of death has gone down from the many suicides we're seeing especially from well to do individuals in the entertainment industry around the world. I think it's 2 days ago when a known radio personality committed suicide bearly 2 months since another known entertainment event organizer committed.


Death is unknown by the ignorant. The wise always think about death and some even get to know and understand it!



I have to admit I'm in the ignorant category. I really would not mind holding & playing with my grandkids kids.

BBI will solve it
:)
Wakanyugi
#57 Posted : Thursday, January 04, 2018 4:31:49 PM
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2012 wrote:
T-Bag wrote:
We fear death, but what if dying isn't as bad as we think? To live is joy to die is peace what is not to like?
https://www.theguardian....isnt-as-bad-as-we-think


It's the ultimate of all unknowns. That's why we fear it so much. On the same note, do you think animals fear death or pain when facing their predictors?

Anyway, it looks like the fear of death has gone down from the many suicides we're seeing especially from well to do individuals in the entertainment industry around the world. I think it's 2 days ago when a known radio personality committed suicide bearly 2 months since another known entertainment event organizer committed.


The greatest mystery, IMHO, is how a lump of otherwise inanimate matter becomes animated to become conscious and to serve as a vehicle for the human being.

Death is the process by which this consciousness transitions from one vehicle to another (or maybe to none) when its temporary purpose in a realm of existence is served.


"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
obiero
#58 Posted : Thursday, January 04, 2018 5:36:08 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
2012 wrote:
T-Bag wrote:
We fear death, but what if dying isn't as bad as we think? To live is joy to die is peace what is not to like?
https://www.theguardian....isnt-as-bad-as-we-think


It's the ultimate of all unknowns. That's why we fear it so much. On the same note, do you think animals fear death or pain when facing their predictors?

Anyway, it looks like the fear of death has gone down from the many suicides we're seeing especially from well to do individuals in the entertainment industry around the world. I think it's 2 days ago when a known radio personality committed suicide bearly 2 months since another known entertainment event organizer committed.


The greatest mystery, IMHO, is how a lump of otherwise inanimate matter becomes animated to become conscious and to serve as a vehicle for the human being.

Death is the process by which this consciousness transitions from one vehicle to another (or maybe to none) when its temporary purpose in a realm of existence is served.



I personally don't fear death but the effect it would have emotionally for my loved ones. Financially they will be OK

KQ ABP 4.26
2012
#59 Posted : Thursday, January 04, 2018 8:23:05 PM
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obiero wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
2012 wrote:
T-Bag wrote:
We fear death, but what if dying isn't as bad as we think? To live is joy to die is peace what is not to like?
https://www.theguardian....isnt-as-bad-as-we-think


It's the ultimate of all unknowns. That's why we fear it so much. On the same note, do you think animals fear death or pain when facing their predictors?

Anyway, it looks like the fear of death has gone down from the many suicides we're seeing especially from well to do individuals in the entertainment industry around the world. I think it's 2 days ago when a known radio personality committed suicide bearly 2 months since another known entertainment event organizer committed.


The greatest mystery, IMHO, is how a lump of otherwise inanimate matter becomes animated to become conscious and to serve as a vehicle for the human being.

Death is the process by which this consciousness transitions from one vehicle to another (or maybe to none) when its temporary purpose in a realm of existence is served.



I personally don't fear death but the effect it would have emotionally for my loved ones. Financially they will be OK



What?? You really need to move from that thinking. People always move on no matter how important mwendazake was. It's life. It will happen to all of us. I think the worst you could have done is not pass anything positive down in your lifetime and sadly most of our middle class will leave zero legacy, nothing worth remembering the person for.

BBI will solve it
:)
hardwood
#60 Posted : Thursday, January 04, 2018 8:31:16 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
2012 wrote:
T-Bag wrote:
We fear death, but what if dying isn't as bad as we think? To live is joy to die is peace what is not to like?
https://www.theguardian....isnt-as-bad-as-we-think


It's the ultimate of all unknowns. That's why we fear it so much. On the same note, do you think animals fear death or pain when facing their predictors?

Anyway, it looks like the fear of death has gone down from the many suicides we're seeing especially from well to do individuals in the entertainment industry around the world. I think it's 2 days ago when a known radio personality committed suicide bearly 2 months since another known entertainment event organizer committed.


The greatest mystery, IMHO, is how a lump of otherwise inanimate matter becomes animated to become conscious and to serve as a vehicle for the human being.

Death is the process by which this consciousness transitions from one vehicle to another (or maybe to none) when its temporary purpose in a realm of existence is served.




RIP

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