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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
Angelica _ann
#8861 Posted : Monday, November 13, 2017 12:54:57 PM
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maka wrote:
littledove wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
i can see "KQ Lenders Company" is trending on twitter but the sad thing is many kenyans lack information of why the banks have found themselves being shareholders.
To me the biggest issue is nobody have disclosed the real share price which the banks were allocated shares, only few rumours and theories of how they will be divided then multiplied or doubled etc

Bure kabisa! Page 12 of this document clearly states the execution price www.winda.co.ke/projectsafari.pdf

well i have checked the attachment and the explanation is on page 22 to 24 (5.4) but i don't know whether to blame my english teacher or the mathematics one, im not clacking anything, why should they make something of public interest that hardSad Sad



If you are in any doubt about the action to be taken, you are recommended to seek immediately your own
personal advice from your stockbroker, bank manager, lawyer or other professional adviser.
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They also dont know whats happeningLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Including @obiero Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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obiero
#8862 Posted : Monday, November 13, 2017 1:14:42 PM
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maka wrote:
littledove wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
i can see "KQ Lenders Company" is trending on twitter but the sad thing is many kenyans lack information of why the banks have found themselves being shareholders.
To me the biggest issue is nobody have disclosed the real share price which the banks were allocated shares, only few rumours and theories of how they will be divided then multiplied or doubled etc

Bure kabisa! Page 12 of this document clearly states the execution price www.winda.co.ke/projectsafari.pdf

well i have checked the attachment and the explanation is on page 22 to 24 (5.4) but i don't know whether to blame my english teacher or the mathematics one, im not clacking anything, why should they make something of public interest that hardSad Sad



If you are in any doubt about the action to be taken, you are recommended to seek immediately your own
personal advice from your stockbroker, bank manager, lawyer or other professional adviser.
smile

They also dont know whats happeningLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Only two things remains unknown, being the Open Offer price and book closure date. These two are key and only the brave should attempt to trade at this moment before full disclosure

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Ericsson
#8863 Posted : Monday, November 13, 2017 1:34:25 PM
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http://www.businessdaily...4746-dbqixgz/index.html

"The debt restructuring plan that was first mooted in June has been agreed following long negotiations which saw one bank, Jamii Bora, opt out of converting their loan, and instead choosing to receive their dues over a five year period".
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Angelica _ann
#8864 Posted : Monday, November 13, 2017 3:11:17 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Govt-banks-control-87-per-cent-Kenya-Airways/4003102-4184746-dbqixgz/index.html

"The debt restructuring plan that was first mooted in June has been agreed following long negotiations which saw one bank, Jamii Bora, opt out of converting their loan, and instead choosing to receive their dues over a five year period".


After their experience with Uchumi smile smile smile
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obiero
#8865 Posted : Monday, November 13, 2017 6:20:53 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Govt-banks-control-87-per-cent-Kenya-Airways/4003102-4184746-dbqixgz/index.html

"The debt restructuring plan that was first mooted in June has been agreed following long negotiations which saw one bank, Jamii Bora, opt out of converting their loan, and instead choosing to receive their dues over a five year period".


After their experience with Uchumi smile smile smile

JBB have sold themselves short.. KQ shares will more likely go up than down in the short term. Half year results are out this week, showing massive improvement

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Ericsson
#8866 Posted : Monday, November 13, 2017 11:10:27 PM
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Treasury expects KQ to be stable and return to Profitability within 10 years
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ArrestedDev
#8867 Posted : Tuesday, November 14, 2017 12:45:52 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Treasury expects KQ to be stable and return to Profitability within 10 years


Fair estimate. It depends largely on the people managing. If Sebastian get it right and stay for long enough then we are sorted.
obiero
#8868 Posted : Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:54:41 AM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Treasury expects KQ to be stable and return to Profitability within 10 years


Fair estimate. It depends largely on the people managing. If Sebastian get it right and stay for long enough then we are sorted.

10 years estimation comes directly from the gutter press. The Chair mentioned that this should happen in less than 12 months https://youtu.be/RZxQy9fGUH0

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Ericsson
#8869 Posted : Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:15:31 AM
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Kenya’s government and domestic lenders agreed to convert $405.3 million of Kenya Airways Plc debt into equity, giving the state a controlling stake and diluting other shareholders including Air France-KLM.

The government, which has given Kenya Airways shilling and U.S.-dollar loans totaling $238.1 million, will increase its stake to 48.9 percent from 29.8 percent, according to statements published in the Nairobi-based Standard newspaper on Monday. Lenders owed $217.2 million will convert part of that debt into a 38.1 percent holding.

“The government of Kenya shall acquire effective control in Kenya Airways and it shall make an application to the Capital Markets Authority for exemption from the take-over requirements in compliance with the Take-overs regulations,” Treasury Secretary Henry Rotich said.

In addition to the debt-for-equity swap, the government and Kenya Airways entered a convertible-loan agreement for a remaining portion of state loans that will result in the issue of more shares at a future date, according to the statement. A similar agreement was reached with banks, whose stake will be housed in a company known as KQ Lenders Co., for $50 million of outstanding debt.

https://www.bloomberg.co...ways-debt-to-equity-swap
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obiero
#8870 Posted : Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:31:41 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Kenya’s government and domestic lenders agreed to convert $405.3 million of Kenya Airways Plc debt into equity, giving the state a controlling stake and diluting other shareholders including Air France-KLM.

The government, which has given Kenya Airways shilling and U.S.-dollar loans totaling $238.1 million, will increase its stake to 48.9 percent from 29.8 percent, according to statements published in the Nairobi-based Standard newspaper on Monday. Lenders owed $217.2 million will convert part of that debt into a 38.1 percent holding.

“The government of Kenya shall acquire effective control in Kenya Airways and it shall make an application to the Capital Markets Authority for exemption from the take-over requirements in compliance with the Take-overs regulations,” Treasury Secretary Henry Rotich said.

In addition to the debt-for-equity swap, the government and Kenya Airways entered a convertible-loan agreement for a remaining portion of state loans that will result in the issue of more shares at a future date, according to the statement. A similar agreement was reached with banks, whose stake will be housed in a company known as KQ Lenders Co., for $50 million of outstanding debt.

https://www.bloomberg.co...ays-debt-to-equity-swap

So which paragraph points to the alleged 10 years..

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